Millennials vs the Church

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I know people dont like to read articles and want to know what its about without reading it but you really have to read this to know what its talking about. For those who do care to read it please give me your impression of what is being said. I agree with some of what is being said,disagree with some. Appreciate if you'd give it a read.


http://faithit.com/12-reasons-millennials-over-church-sam-eaton/
 
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I agree with 7, 9.

I think that the local church has nothing to offer to me except of some personal relations (which I do not need anyway).

The only thing I would need the local church for are sacraments - baptism and the Lord's Supper. Everything else I can get on the internet... faster and better.

I actually see no reason why to get up early on Sunday, sat in the church, listening to "from average to errors-full preaching" and then go home again.
 
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trofimus said:
I agree with 7, 9.

I think that the local church has nothing to offer to me except of some personal relations (which I do not need anyway).

The only thing I would need the local church for are sacraments - baptism and the Lord's Supper. Everything else I can get on the internet... faster and better.

I actually see no reason why to get up early on Sunday, sat in the church, listening to "from average to errors-full preaching" and then go home again.
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Hey! Thanks for reading,I didn't think anyone would.Im going to wait for a few more responses before I give my thoughts.
 
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kaylagrl said:
Hey! Thanks for reading,I didn't think anyone would.Im going to wait for a few more responses before I give my thoughts.
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Actually the purpose of the church is to provide us with a fellowship among whom we can worship God. The writer seemed to lay little emphasis on that.

Or maybe God doesn't matter any more?
 
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"35 percent of millennials have an anti-church stance, believing the church does more harm than good"

This can be seen on Christian Forums as well...

*) Too much hostility and finger pointing going on.

*) Lot's of unanswered or poorly answered questions.

*) Lazyness and not enough caring.

*) KJV vs. newer translation issues

It's a mess.
 
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I agree with many of the points in this article. I strongly agree with not worrying about the mission statements with no actual regards to actually following the word of God. Sometimes a mission statement can just be some pretty words on paper, and we all know actions speak louder than words.

I also agree with the showing where the money is going because to me just focusing on a fancy church and parties, picnics, and social events is not serving the community. I’m not saying that we should let churches run down and never have any fun social events. I just think the money should be balanced and used for helping others in the community. Churches are not reaching the lost by having a big fancy church and throwing a lot of parties for their members.

I also agree with the no clicking up thing. Churches should make all members and everyone in attendance feel welcomed and a part of the church.

I also agree with not avoiding the hard things such as how to live a Christian life by just condemning the rest of the world and not actually having a small groups to discuss the tough issues, and what scriptures teach about these issues.

Like I said, I agree with many of the points given in the article but this is becoming an extremely long post so I’m going to cut it here...lol

Thanks for the article. It focused on a lot of good issues.
 
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kaylagrl said:
I know people dont like to read articles and want to know what its about without reading it but you really have to read this to know what its talking about. For those who do care to read it please give me your impression of what is being said. I agree with some of what is being said,disagree with some. Appreciate if you'd give it a read.


http://faithit.com/12-reasons-millennials-over-church-sam-eaton/
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Read it. Agreed with most of it.

What points did you agree and disagree with?
 
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Yet there remains scriptural injunctions to assemble together.

Jesus asked when He returns will He find faith.

Lu 18:8 I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?

For the cause of Christ
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valiant said:
Actually the purpose of the church is to provide us with a fellowship among whom we can worship God. The writer seemed to lay little emphasis on that.

Or maybe God doesn't matter any more?
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I get what you are saying here...Church is about fellowship and worshiping God...But in my opinion it also needs to be a practice what you preach type thing. We serve God by serving others. To me that is helping others and witnessing to others. This can't be done in just a Sunday meeting. Sometimes, like the author of the article says, it seems many are just playing church. Preaching about the things we should be doing, without taking the time to get together and plan out ways that we as a church can get together and do those things, such as witnessing to the lost, helping the poor, and making a difference in the community.
 
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Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together as the manner of some, but exhorting one another and SO MUCH THE MORE as we see the day approaching.

Those who have this negative view of the Lord's churches and or do not need or have use for the Lord's churches count the blood of Jesus a common, ordinary base thing and in so doing trample Jesus under their feet.

JESUS loved his CHURCH and GAVE HIMSELF for it......that is the attitude we should all have..........

Will add....a lot of WE WANT in there.....is it not about what WE GIVE not what WE WANT?
 
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Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together as the manner of some, but exhorting one another and SO MUCH THE MORE as we see the day approaching.

Those who have this negative view of the Lord's churches and or do not need or have use for the Lord's churches count the blood of Jesus a common, ordinary base thing and in so doing trample Jesus under their feet.

JESUS loved his CHURCH and GAVE HIMSELF for it......that is the attitude we should all have..........
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You should probably realize the difference between the Church and the local congregations before throwing such sharp accusations about how anybody trample or not Jesus under their feet.

You are the type of person that makes me not to go the the local church.
 
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You should probably realize the difference between the Church and the local congregations before throwing such sharp accusations about how anybody trample or not Jesus under their feet.
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You should probably read Hebrews and the verses I quoted or referenced before you bloviate and look foolish!
 
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The subject Reminds me of

THE ACTS 17:15 The men who escorted Paul took him all the way to the city of Athens. When the men left Athens, they took instructions back to Silas and Timothy to join Paul as soon as possible.
THE ACTS 17:16 While Paul was waiting for Silas and Timothy in Athens, he saw that the city had statues of false gods everywhere. This upset him.
THE ACTS 17:17 He held discussions in the synagogue with Jews and converts to Judaism. He also held discussions every day in the public square with anyone who happened to be there.
 
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dcontroversal said:
You should probably read Hebrews and the verses I quoted or referenced before you bloviate and look foolish!
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If you think these verses are connected... and if you think it is not written to Jews leaving Christianity, but Christians leaving the local assembly (and still staying Christians)... ok
 
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kaylagrl said:
I know people dont like to read articles and want to know what its about without reading it but you really have to read this to know what its talking about. For those who do care to read it please give me your impression of what is being said. I agree with some of what is being said,disagree with some. Appreciate if you'd give it a read.


http://faithit.com/12-reasons-millennials-over-church-sam-eaton/
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I hear a theme of i want the church to be what i want it to be when i want it to be it....... Me me me me me me me...

Serve me.. say what i want you to say.. deal with the issues i think are important and shut up about the things that i don't think are important.. Me me me me me i am a millennial and i want everything to be in service to me...
 
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That was one of the things I disagreed with in the article was the you need to focus on us thing... However, I think a lot of his points were valid and good suggestions for the whole church and not just Millennial's.
 
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Adstar said:
I hear a theme of i want the church to be what i want it to be when i want it to be it....... Me me me me me me me...

Serve me.. say what i want you to say.. deal with the issues i think are important and shut up about the things that i don't think are important.. Me me me me me i am a millennial and i want everything to be in service to me...
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I don't agree with you too often, Adstar, but that is exactly what I read also ,for the most part. That, and constantly contradictory points on most of the numbered issues.

It honestly sounded nine year-old child speaking through a twenty-some-year-old's voice. I got the impression that an entire segment was missing right out of the middle of the author's development, and they were trying to quickly ride a rope swing across the gap, rather than go back and begin construction of a firmly-built road they could safely and comfortably traverse.
 
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I kept hearing this song playing. I think this attitude is directed at a whole lot more than just the church.

[video=youtube;ZthGh758pYY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZthGh758pYY[/video]
 
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trofimus said:
If you think these verses are connected... and if you think it is not written to Jews leaving Christianity, but Christians leaving the local assembly (and still staying Christians)... ok
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The apostate Jews because the promised time of reformation had come, it caused division in the families. The Jews that refused to recognize that the shadows and types had become substance treated other Jews as if they were strangers.(Gentiles)

They were looking to a city as if the heavenly Jerusalem, the continuing city was the earthy and not walking by the faith of Christ which comes from hearing God, called the hearing of faith. The passage was not saying we need a man to teach us as to the gathering together. But more towards not to forget rejecting the messengers of God, they could be making the hearing of faith without effect. Some of those strangers were hid.
in which the scriptures inform us. (Of whom the world was not worthy:) they wandered in deserts, and in mountains, and in dens and caves of the earth, as if he hid the better ones from assembling together. It would seem he begun with the most popular and worked the way up to those whose names were not mentioned, the first will be last and the last first

I think the verse below compliments the chapter ten passages

Let brotherly love continue.Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares. Heb 13:1
 
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trofimus said:
If you think these verses are connected... and if you think it is not written to Jews leaving Christianity, but Christians leaving the local assembly (and still staying Christians)... ok
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Your point is moot...there is NEITHER JEW nor GENTILE in Christ and a church is a church is a church regardless of the flavor of the stones that make up said spiritual house....any and all who do what is described in Hebrews are guilty of the same sin...regardless of century and or ethnicity.........
 
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