The role of women in Biblical marriages

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miknik5

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And....she can be pretty !
 
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One role of Woman in Biblical Marriages is to please...

Don't take advantage of a Man who truly abides by this verse...

Ephesians 5:25
"Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it"


Sacrifice is a rare commodity anymore. Don't abuse it. Cherish it.
 
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Ariel82

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Oh please, let us not pick up just what we like :)

0 Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies.
11 The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her, so that he shall have no need of spoil.
12 She will do him good and not evil all the days of her life.
13 She seeketh wool, and flax, and worketh willingly with her hands.
14 She is like the merchants' ships; she bringeth her food from afar.
15 She riseth also while it is yet night, and giveth meat to her household, and a portion to her maidens.
16 She considereth a field, and buyeth it: with the fruit of her hands she planteth a vineyard.
17 She girdeth her loins with strength, and strengtheneth her arms.
18 She perceiveth that her merchandise is good: her candle goeth not out by night.
19 She layeth her hands to the spindle, and her hands hold the distaff.
20 She stretcheth out her hand to the poor; yea, she reacheth forth her hands to the needy.
21 She is not afraid of the snow for her household: for all her household are clothed with scarlet.
22 She maketh herself coverings of tapestry; her clothing is silk and purple.
23 Her husband is known in the gates, when he sitteth among the elders of the land.
24 She maketh fine linen, and selleth it; and delivereth girdles unto the merchant.
25 Strength and honour are her clothing; and she shall rejoice in time to come.
26 She openeth her mouth with wisdom; and in her tongue is the law of kindness.
27 She looketh well to the ways of her household, and eateth not the bread of idleness.
28 Her children arise up, and call her blessed; her husband also, and he praiseth her.
29 Many daughters have done virtuously, but thou excellest them all.
30 Favour is deceitful, and beauty is vain: but a woman that feareth the Lord, she shall be praised.
31 Give her of the fruit of her hands; and let her own works praise her in the gates.

I know that you like that her man is saying nice things of her. But you must realize you would not like to be like her in America today :)

So if we say "A", let us say also "B".
Too tired to go into much details but I was thinking while reading the Bible verses that the ideal wife, i am not.

However my husband and kids still loves me flaws and all.
 

proverbs35

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Quote "Does she cook and clean the house? Yes. How do you get women to do that because men are stuck with women who wont?"

Im finding it hard to take this video seriously. She says "some women cant cook" and it flashes to girls holding signs about not cooking. Is there a problem if men can cook and women can't? My husband can cook and if Im not well or busy with other things he doesn't sit by the stove starving and rubbing his tummy because Im not there to feed him.He starts supper! Whats wrong with that?!

Second point,he asks "how do you deal with the hell that is in her?" when you are happy and come home to an unhappy wife. I wouldn't give that ol' boy leadership over a dog let alone a family. Its clear the point that He's trying to make and this is a dangerous teaching. If he doesn't like her answers he sure wouldn't like mine.

How should men handle women who think they are called by God? They are difficult becuse they act like men. Seriously??!!! I have female pastors in my family and there is nothing "difficult" or manly about them. But apparently whatever they did was in vain.


Im sorry this is more than heavy handed this is offensive to me. At the end he's comparing women in ministry to women at that march!!!? The whole thing from start to finish made me angry. This guy wouldn't be my pastor for ten minutes.

I dont understand this whole "who's the head" debate. I have two couples in my family that have this issue. The men lord over the women,the women at some point resent it and the cycle never ends. They've been in turmoil and strife their whole marriage. Marriage is a partnership. Try peddling a bicycle for two up hill with only one person peddling. The husband is the head to protect the wife,to love her as Christ loves the church, to lead when it is needed. What he is not is her daddy figure. I haven't men one person who goes on about "who's the leader" that doesn't have a problem lording their position over their wife. My husband and I make decisions together. We work together. We talk things out and we agree on the final decision because we're both comfortable with it. You can smack your wife in the head all day long with submit verses and you'll only get resentment. You want to lead,then do what the Lord did,He went to the cross for His bride. He sacrificed. I dont see that attitude anywhere in this man. Leading is more then telling your wife what you want for supper and what sex position you expect of her tonight. Totally disrespectful. I hope Christians are smarter than to listen to this for marriage advice.

Once again, this is why I enjoy your posts about marriage. You make it sound doable and worthwhile.

I wouldn't give that ol' boy leadership over a dog let alone a family.


That made me lol. I totally agree!
 
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kaylagrl

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So we will ignore what is written ("she does, she makes...") and will look for what is not written? :)

Yes, men are "statesmen" in Afghanistan too... in every village there are many men sitting "in the gates". They are poor that they even do not have shoes, but whatever, they are "statesmen" :)
And their wives do all the hard work.

P.S.: I did not know that "magenta" is a color :)


Bible says if you dont work you dont deserve to eat. So I dont think men of the time were sitting around watching women work. Not according to what the Bible says.
 
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kaylagrl

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Once again, this is why I enjoy your posts about marriage. You make it sound doable and worthwhile.



That made me lol. I totally agree!

Good to see you sister! We only seem to cross paths once in a while. Thank you,I do think marriage is doable but it takes sacrifice from both partners. Having a great hubby also helps.lol
 
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Ariel82

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Good to see you sister! We only seem to cross paths once in a while. Thank you,I do think marriage is doable but it takes sacrifice from both partners. Having a great hubby also helps.lol
Humbleness And forgiveness when we do make mistakes.
 

p_rehbein

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The woman is to be passive in all areas. She is to walk at least two steps behind her husband at all times. She is to keep her head down and eyes averted from other people when in public. Under NO circumstances is she to make direct eye contact with a man who is not her husband or child, or family member.

She is to be obedient to all directives from her husband. She is to obey him without question, and to do so with a smile on her face. She is to take care of the home in all aspects: cooking, cleaning, laundry, garbage, everything. She is not to work outside of the house, except then working for the Church, but must no accept financial compensation for her labors.

She is not, under any circumstances, speak in Church or read the Bible on her own. If she desires to learn anything concerning Scriptures, she is to ask her husband, and his directives will be taken as God's Truth.

She is not allowed to express criticism of her husband, his actions or his words, especially in Public.

She is to at all times remember that the husband is the Head of the Wife, and she is subject to his every wish and desire and directive. She is to accept that she is just slightly above the status of Property. She is to bear children, and is responsible for the care of the children in all areas.

Hmm........lessee.........think that about covers it all.........
 
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Ariel82

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Let me lay out my outline and yall can help me stay on track. My mind tends to wander and lose focus easily.

I used to be really embrassed and upset about it, but I have learned that it's how God has made me. One day he may help me change, for now he gives me folks who love me anyway.


I tend to zone out when I think through a problem and get tunnel vision or be so scattered that nothing gets done.

Going to start another post and try and keep on track.,
 

maxwel

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The role of women in the bible...


there are women in the bible?
 
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Ariel82

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Outline

1. List all Bible verses specifically about marriage and examine what they teach us Godly marriage should look like. Specifically a Woman's role and what it means to be a helpmate (different for everyone but some basic similarities)

2. Examine some traits all Christians should have that will help with a successful marriage like forgiveness and patience and kindness and what true godly love is according to the Bible

3. Gather advice and stories about successful marriages from people I have meet and share with everyone

Anyway, some of it is all floating in my head, but haven't had a chance to lay it all out and gather scripture, etc.
 

p_rehbein

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I understand. Someone told me today that I was indecisive, and I set them straight.....

No, I am not, wait, no, that's right, I am not, well, hmm, lessee, no, I don't think I am, however...........

Let me lay out my outline and yall can help me stay on track. My mind tends to wander and lose focus easily.

I used to be really embrassed and upset about it, but I have learned that it's how God has made me. One day he may help me change, for now he gives me folks who love me anyway.


I tend to zone out when I think through a problem and get tunnel vision or be so scattered that nothing gets done.

Going to start another post and try and keep on track.,
 
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1Co 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
1Co 11:10 For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels.

The authority structure of God on earth,and angels are last for they are ministering spirits sent to minister to all who shall inherit salvation.

The role of the man is to be according to God's will,not his own agenda,so it would be the same as if the woman is listening to God,and the man to raise the family according to the will of God,and the man is actually the servant of the woman,and the children,for Jesus said,he that is greater,let him be a servant,and Christ who is the head of man,was the servant of both men and women,but this greater is only pertaining to this world,not the spiritual realm,but really not greater except their responsibility to lead according to the will of God.

The women's role is to assist the man,and support him,as God said He gave Eve as a helpmate,and she can have her say so concerning things,and if the man is out of bounds concerning the will of God,the woman would have to listen to God above the man.

This authority structure does not work in the secular world,and the men in the secular world like to run things according to their own agenda,instead of God's agenda,where in the kingdom of God,the man has nowhere to glory,or control,because it is not his agenda,but according to God's will.

So to put it like this,it would be the same as if Jesus Christ Himself was running the household,that kind of agenda is how the man is to conduct himself,and Paul said men love your wives as the Lord loves the Church.

Only pointed that out for the men who try to push their agenda in to the marriage,when it is all according to the agenda of God.

God has to have an authority structure on earth,so things run smooth,like government,school system,etc.

There is no difference between the Jew and the Greek,free and bond,and male and female,in the Lord,for they are equal in the Lord.

So I would not think that the man is the head of the woman when it pertains to ordinary situations outside of home,where the man is to lead in the ways of the Lord to be properly done in this position,and the Church,where the saints are gathered together to worship God,and hear the word of God,and the man should take the lead,for if not in those two situations it would appear as if the man is not the head of the woman,for the authority structure would not apply,but equal in the Lord.

I do not believe if a man and a woman saint,equal in the Lord,friends,if they were to bump into each other at the store,that the man would be the head of her,but only in the home,and at Church,of a gathering of the saints where the man should take the lead.
 
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Ariel82

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Yeah the Bible doesn't tell women to submit to every man she meets, just her husband.
 

miknik5

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Question Ariel.....

Are these biblical women married to biblical men?
what we are given in the scriptures noted is the account of a biblical husband praising his biblical wife
 
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Ariel82

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Question Ariel.....

Are these biblical women married to biblical men?
what we are given in the scriptures noted is the account of a biblical husband praising his biblical wife
Yes ....it would be a really long thread otherwise.

I thought we could examine the godly ideal thru scriptures and then how it plays out in this broken world.
 

Magenta

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Biblical men like Adam (caused all creation to fall), David (adulterer, murderer),
Noah (drunkard), Solomon (idolater)... Peter, referred to as Satan by our Lord?
 
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Ariel82

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Biblical men like Adam (caused all creation to fall), David (adulterer, murderer),
Noah (drunkard), Solomon (idolater)... Peter, referred to as Satan by our Lord?
Only Adam had a decent marriage that most women might wish to be a part of.

Was it a godly marriage or did Adam not "get the hell" out of her as the video asserts men should?

I believe it's a good thing to allow God to deal with our spouse when they are being unreasonable. My husband might raise an eyebrow and that is a rebuke because it communicates that he doesn't agree.

I believe learning nonverbal language is important for all people.
 
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JaimeMartinez26

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to be honest i dont know the role of a biblical wife well

i just know what im not willing to marry because i wouldnt be willing to deal with them for however long i am to live

and the women in this video could look like any girl in the world and cook like a trained chef

i still wouldnt budge


and shes still a grade above the majority of young women ive had to avoid
simply because she proclaims to believe in Jesus

celebate and almost 10 years single
and it only gets easier