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Hm, no, I meant it differently. I meant that the giants were the children of the sons of God and women. I.E. that in those times, when they were taking those women... you know, in that era or age or how to say it.
But I admit my orientation in the English tenses is not so perfect, so I will pass on this one, probably... Let somebody who is a native English speaker explain it
Its quite difficult for me.
Which quote, which translation? I am lost a little
Because if it was about humans, "the sons of God" would be a spiritual meaning. Therefore they would have to be godly, not wicked.
If they were angels, "the sons of God" would be a "higher being" meaning. Therefore not dependent on their spiritual status (godly or ungodly).
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If the angels theory is right, demons are the giants.
If the Sethite theory is right, where are demons from? Who are they?
But I admit my orientation in the English tenses is not so perfect, so I will pass on this one, probably... Let somebody who is a native English speaker explain it
Its quite difficult for me.Which quote, which translation? I am lost a little
Because if it was about humans, "the sons of God" would be a spiritual meaning. Therefore they would have to be godly, not wicked.
If they were angels, "the sons of God" would be a "higher being" meaning. Therefore not dependent on their spiritual status (godly or ungodly).
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If the angels theory is right, demons are the giants.
If the Sethite theory is right, where are demons from? Who are they?
Originally Posted by oldhermit
trofimus, I am going to ask a simple question and I want you to give me an honest answer. Why is it so important to you that 'son of God' in either Gen 6 or in Job be angels? There has to be some reason behind this insistence.
I am not sure what you mean by "so important". Its a discussion forum thread, so I discuss it Like everybody else here...
I could ask you the same question, why is it so important for you that they were not angels
Like everybody else here...I could ask you the same question, why is it so important for you that they were not angels
I have read Augustin now, regarding this topic and I must admit he has some good points.
But it seems to me he is working with two groups of fallen angels theory, not sure why or where does he specifies it more (and therefore he explains Jude like not being about the fallen angels of satan)
But it seems to me he is working with two groups of fallen angels theory, not sure why or where does he specifies it more (and therefore he explains Jude like not being about the fallen angels of satan)
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No one else has presented any viable evidence from scripture to support their position. They have appealed to such things as the so-called Church fathers, people from antiquity, non-biblical sources, extra-biblical sources, and even to the human imagination. It is a pretty sure sign that a man's argument is collapsing when they stoop to appealing to such things as that vile document that is laughingly referred to as the "Book of Enoch." In all of my argumentation, have appealed to no other sources than the grammatical structure of revelation. That is the only source that has any value.