Can God give someone an evil spirit?

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godstuff

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Hi, I heard a discussion recently about Saul and David - one thing stuck out, they said the Lord had given Saul a evil spirit to torment him, quoted the scriptures etc. Can this happen? I'm a bit confused.
 
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Shwagga

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That is what the text says, but when it comes to verses like this we just really have to focus on and understand the character of God.
 
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Saul was disobedient to YAH! In doing so and not paying attention to his duty; OUR FATHER treats us very evenhandley and rather than say he gave him an evil spirit,I think it would be better understood that YAH took away his protection and allowed an evil spirit to pursue him.
 
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karuna

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1 Samuel 16:14 said:
Now the Spirit of the LORD had departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD tormented him.
The word translated as "evil" has a lot of meanings, not all of which mean moral evil. For instance, it can be used to describe destruction:

Nehemiah 1:3 said:
They said to me, "Those who survived the exile and are back in the province are in great trouble and disgrace. The wall of Jerusalem is broken down, and its gates have been burned with fire."
Here, the word is translated as "trouble."

Job 2:7 said:
So Satan went out from the presence of the LORD and afflicted Job with painful sores from the soles of his feet to the top of his head.
Here, the word is "painful."

It might be best to translate the word in 1 Samuel as "malevolent" or "punishing," considering its function. It was not sent to do moral evil but to bring about ruin. Of course, this is still troubling.
 
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God does not give a person an evil spirit.

God allowed the evil spirit to come upon Saul because of his disobedience.

The love that Jesus showed while on earth is the same love that applies now.

God never touches people for evil but only good,but if a person is not on God's side,then they do not have His protection,and God will allow them to go through trouble,but will never touch them for evil Himself.
 
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Hi, I heard a discussion recently about Saul and David - one thing stuck out, they said the Lord had given Saul a evil spirit to torment him, quoted the scriptures etc. Can this happen? I'm a bit confused.
I’m not sure I understand which situation you are referring to, but the Lord can do anything. What he does is for our own good, right?
 

Wonderland

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Some people are not going to like this answer, but some things are true whether we like it or not.

Different Old Testament writers had different beliefs about God and spirits. In the particular book of the Bible you are referencing, the writer only believed in Monotheism in the strictest sense. They did not believe in any spirits other than the true God! Of course, we know that there are evil spirits, usually called demons, but for the writer to explain demonic activity without the use of demons could only be described as a spirit having been sent by God. Now we know that God would never send a demon to anyone, but he may allow a demon to go to a person, maybe even take possession of them, therefore, it is reasonable to say that this was, in fact, a demon, not sent by God, but allowed by Him.

Hope that helps :)
 
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socperkins

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I have read that before Christianity, Jews thought of the devil and his cohorts as tools used by God to test us and strengthen our faith. When Christianity was established the devil took on more of a role of opposite God, the supreme evil, anti-God. I am not trying to defend the devil in any way, but if you take into account that the devil has no authority and God is sovereign, then where do any of these evil spirits come from?

2 Chronicles 18:18-22 [ESV] - And Micaiah said, "Therefore hear the word of the LORD: I saw the LORD sitting on his throne, and all the host of heaven standing on his right hand and on his left. And the LORD said, 'Who will entice Ahab the king of Israel, that he may go up and fall at Ramoth-gilead?' And one said one thing, and another said another. Then a spirit came forward and stood before the LORD, saying, 'I will entice him.' And the LORD said to him, 'By what means?' And he said, 'I will go out, and will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets.' And he said, 'You are to entice him, and you shall succeed; go out and do so.' Now therefore behold, the LORD has put a lying spirit in the mouth of these your prophets. The LORD has declared disaster concerning you."

We see in this instance that God sends a lying spirit which many would consider evil. I believe that God does send evil spirits, and if he doesn't directly send them then he allows them to go. This was hard for me to accept at first, but then I remembered that I am being refined, and all the evil spirits I have overcome have made me 10x stronger than I was before.
 
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godstuff

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Thanks for the replies everyone, I appreciate it so much. Everything makes much more sense now! God bless!
 
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Read Job. God said hey look at Job. And let the devil do all kinds of bad things to Job. Maybe God was saying look this is my true servant and no matter what happens he will still be mine.