Understanding the New Covenant

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FreeNChrist

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Apparently being calumniating paranoid conspiracist's is what passes for being a preacher nowadays. :rolleyes:
 
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Ariel82

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Hi Ariel,

Let's look at the old covenant and God's promises not to leave or forsake them:

Deuteronomy 31 v6-8

[SUP]6 [/SUP]Be strong and of good courage, do not fear nor be afraid of them; for the Lord your God, He is the One who goes with you. He will not leave you nor forsake you.” [SUP]7 [/SUP]Then Moses called Joshua and said to him in the sight of all Israel, “Be strong and of good courage, for you must go with this people to the land which the Lord has sworn to their fathers to give them, and you shall cause them to inherit it. [SUP]8 [/SUP]And the Lord, He is the One who goes before you. He will be with you, He will not leave you nor forsake you; do not fear nor be dismayed.”


Then, in the same CHAPTER, we have the prophecy of Israel breaking covenant with God (not Him breaking covenant with Israel).

Deuteronomy 31 v16-18
[SUP]16 [/SUP]And the Lord said to Moses: “Behold, you will rest with your fathers; and this people will rise and play the harlot with the gods of the foreigners of the land, where they go to be among them, and they will forsake Me and break My covenant which I have made with them. [SUP]17 [/SUP]Then My anger shall be aroused against them in that day, and I will forsake them, and I will hide My face from them, and they shall be devoured. And many evils and troubles shall befall them, so that they will say in that day, ‘Have not these evils come upon us because our God is not among us?’ [SUP]18 [/SUP]And I will surely hide My face in that day because of all the evil which they have done, in that they have turned to other gods.



Yes, we do have Jesus as our Mediator, and the Holy Spirit who chastises us.

But let me ask you this: What if you do not heed the calls to repent? What if you quieten the still small voice? What if you rebel against the chastisement? What if you no longer believe (like we are required to do)? What if we begin serving other Gods, just as the pattern of Israel of old? Do you not see that, just like Israel of old, the church can also play the harlot? Are we once again not breaking covenant with God? Are we able to demand from God to honour his side of the covenant, without us honouring our side of the covenant? Would a person who commits to Christ as a 20 year old and then later in life rejects Him - or loses faith in Him still receive salvation?--if salvation is obtained through faith?

And here we see the scriptures of one who breaks covenant, in clear black and white:

Hebrews 10v29
[SUP]29 [/SUP]Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace?

and again....

Hebrews 6v6
[SUP]6 [/SUP]if they fall away,[SUP][b][/SUP] to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.


God bless
Sorry for the late response. Just saw this thread and your response.

You seem to assume all those who believe they have entered into a covenant with God, are automatically accepted.

I believe only the Holy Spirit can change hearts and make them acceptable to God. God will not forsake His people,he will change their hearts and minds to live godly lives. They may rebel for a while,but God will cause things in their life, people around them and His own Spirit speaking through the Bible and dreams and others to reveal His truth and bring them unto repentance.

Do all people who call themselves Christian have a saving faith?

I believe most are walking the wide road to hell and have not yet found the narrow way.
 

Chris1975

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