THE WOMAN IN HEAVEN

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I believe so many of us might have been asking this question over the years without an accurate answer, I still find it difficult to explain myself.
The Bible made us to understand that there was a pregnant woman in HEAVEN (Rev. 12:1-2)
HEAVEN- not -EARTH!
1. Who was the woman, and who is the child she conceived?
While growing up, the Catholics made us to understand that the woman was Mary and the Child is Jesus.
According to the Holy Bible, Mary conceived Jesus Christ on earth and not in HEAVEN
“The woman fled into the wilderness to a place prepared for her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days”. Rev. 12:6
2. Did Mary flee to the wilderness after she gave birth to Jesus?
Immediately Jesus Christ was born, God told Joseph (the Man) [… not Mary (the Woman)] to take him [Jesus Christ] to Egypt Matt. 2:13-14
Even if there were a correlation between the Woman in HEAVEN the Bible talked about and Mary mother of Jesus; the years Jesus stayed in Egypt during infancy would be able to give us an insight.
3. How many years did Jesus Christ stayed Egypt.
 

oldhermit

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The Microcosm of the “Mystery of God.”

A. The woman with child, 1-2 – Israel as an appointed nation.

1. “A great sign appeared in heaven : a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet,” This is the nation of Israel who has always been portrayed as the bride of Jehovah clothed in splendor. “Then I passed by you and saw you, and behold, you were at the time for love; so I spread My skirt over you and covered your nakedness. I also swore to you and entered into a covenant with you so that you became Mine,” declares the Lord GOD. Then I bathed you with water, washed off your blood from you and anointed you with oil. I also clothed you with embroidered cloth and put sandals of porpoise skin on your feet; and I wrapped you with fine linen and covered you with silk. I adorned you with ornaments, put bracelets on your hands and a necklace around your neck. I also put a ring in your nostril, earrings in your ears and a beautiful crown on your head. Thus you were adorned with gold and silver, and your dress was of fine linen, silk and embroidered cloth. You ate fine flour, honey and oil; so you were exceedingly beautiful and advanced to royalty. Then your fame went forth among the nations on account of your beauty, for it was perfect because of My splendor which I bestowed on you,” declares the Lord GOD.” Ezekiel 16:8-14.
2. “And on her head a crown of twelve stars ;” The nation was comprised of the 12 tribes represented here by 12 stars.
3. Israel's struggle to bring forth Messiah,“And she was with child; and she cried out, being in labor and in pain to give birth.”

B. The attempt by Satan to destroy the child, 3-4


1. “Then another sign appeared in heaven : and behold, a great red dragon having seven heads and ten horns, and on his heads were seven diadems.” We are told in verse nine that the dragon is Satan but the seven heads and seven diadems are representative of the nation of Rome. So, it is through Rome that Satan exercised his power against the woman. This beast is the fourth beast mentioned in Daniel's vision in Daniel 7:7-8. “After this I kept looking in the night visions, and behold, a fourth beast, dreadful and terrifying and extremely strong; and it had large iron teeth. It devoured and crushed and trampled down the remainder with its feet; and it was different from all the beasts that were before it, and it had ten horns. “While I was contemplating the horns, behold, another horn, a little one, came up among them, and three of the first horns were pulled out by the roots before it; and behold, this horn possessed eyes like the eyes of a man and a mouth uttering great boasts.” Daniel does not mention the seven heads but focuses rather on the ten horns which were ten kings.

a. Seven heads – “Here is the mind which has wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits, and they are seven kings; five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; and when he comes, he must remain a little while,” 17:9-10.Thus the seven heads are the seven hills of Rome which had become the symbol of the imperial city. The woman is Jerusalem.

b. The ten horns – “The ten horns which you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but they receive authority AS kings with the beast for one hour. “These have one purpose, and they give their power and authority to the beast,” 17:12-13. (100 men serves as emperor of Rome from Augustus in 67BC to Maurice in 602AD so, why are only ten horns mentioned? Is it because the fulfillment of these events would be in the days of the tenth horn?)

* These ten horns are Roman tributary kings for none of them have received a kingdom and they derive their authority from the beast.

* The time of their power is limit as they receive authority “for one hour.” In other words, for a short period of time.
* These kings serve Rome for they “give their power and authority to the beast,”

2. “And his tail swept away a third of the stars of heaven and threw them to the earth.” Their power has been taken away. This suggests the power of the Roman empire over the nations.
3. “And the dragon stood before the woman (Israel) who was about to give birth, so that when she gave birth he might devour her child.” Satanattempted to kill Jesus at his birth. This was a prophesied event. “Thus says the Lord, "A voice is heard in Ramah, lamentation and bitter weeping. Rachel is weeping for her children; She refuses to be comforted for her children, because they are no more.” Jeremiah 32:15. Matthew records in Matthew 2:16-18 that Jeremiah's words were fulfilled in the attempt to kill Jesus after his birth. “Then when Herod (one of the horns – a tributary king of Rome) saw that he had been tricked by the magi, he became very enraged, and sent and slew all the male children who were in Bethlehem and all its vicinity, from two years old and under, according to the time which he had determined from the magi. Then what had been spoken through Jeremiah the prophet was fulfilled: “A voice was heard in Ramah, weeping and great mourning, Rachel weeping for her children and she refused to be comforted, because they were no more.” In Daniel 7:24 we are also told that these ten horns are ten kings of the sea beast. “As for the ten horns, out of this kingdom ten kings will arise; and another will arise after them, and he will be different from the previous ones and will subdue three kings.”

C. The birth of Messiah, 5-6


1. “And she gave birth to a son, a male child, (Not the Church which is always represented in the feminine) who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron; This can only be Jesus. He is theone who was to rule with the nations with the rod of iron.

a. Psalms 2:9, “You shall break them with a rod of iron. You shall shatter them like earthenware.”

b. Revelation 2:27, “And he shall rule them with a rod of iron, as the vessels of the potter are broken to pieces, as I also have received authority from My Father.”
c. Revelation 19:15, “From His mouth comes a sharp sword, so that with it He may strike down the nations, and He will rule them with a rod of iron; and He treads the wine press of the fierce wrath of God, the Almighty.”

2. “And her child was caught up to God and to His throne.” This is the resurrection and ascension of Jesus which was seen by Daniel 7:13-14, “I kept looking in the night visions, and behold, with the clouds of heaven One like a Son of Man was coming, and He came up to the Ancient of Days and was presented before Him. And to Him was given dominion, glory and a kingdom, that all the peoples, nations and men of every language might serve Him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion which will not pass away; and His kingdom is one which will not be destroyed.” Persecution was the method by which Satan attempted to destroy this kingdom.
3. “Then the woman fled into the wilderness where she had a place prepared by God, so that there she would be nourished for one thousand two hundred and sixty days.” The Christians fled to the mountains of Pela as the Lord had warned them to do during the persecution of Jewish Christians in the time of Israel's judgment, Matthew 24:16 and Luke 21:21.
 
Apr 15, 2017
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I believe so many of us might have been asking this question over the years without an accurate answer, I still find it difficult to explain myself.
The Bible made us to understand that there was a pregnant woman in HEAVEN (Rev. 12:1-2)
HEAVEN- not -EARTH!
1. Who was the woman, and who is the child she conceived?
While growing up, the Catholics made us to understand that the woman was Mary and the Child is Jesus.
According to the Holy Bible, Mary conceived Jesus Christ on earth and not in HEAVEN
“The woman fled into the wilderness to a place prepared for her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days”. Rev. 12:6
2. Did Mary flee to the wilderness after she gave birth to Jesus?
Immediately Jesus Christ was born, God told Joseph (the Man) [… not Mary (the Woman)] to take him [Jesus Christ] to Egypt Matt. 2:13-14
Even if there were a correlation between the Woman in HEAVEN the Bible talked about and Mary mother of Jesus; the years Jesus stayed in Egypt during infancy would be able to give us an insight.
3. How many years did Jesus Christ stayed Egypt.
Jesus said salvation is of the Jews,and when a Gentile is saved they are a Jew inward,and become part of the commonwealth of Israel,and the kingdom on earth will be restored to Israel,and the 12 tribes of Israel,and the 12 apostles of the Lamb,are written in the New Jerusalem,for it is Israel all the way,Old Covenant given to them,New Covenant given to them,kingdom restored to Israel,which Jesus and the saints will rule over the people that God spared that fought against Israel coming in the future,and the New Jerusalem given to them,the final destination of the saints.

God will give the world 7 years to have their way,and cause all people who do not love Him to follow the beast kingdom,whch they will persecute the saints,and at the end of the 7 years the saints are resurrected on earth,God only dealing with Israel,turned them to the truth Jesus is their Messiah,world attacks them,Jesus comes back with His saints,and defeats the world,and saves Israel.

For the first three and one half years the world will operate by the ten horn kingdom,the world split in to ten sections with a leader in each section,and the 7 years will start when the man of sin establishes peace in the Middle East,and they say Peace and safety,in which sudden destruction comes upon them,and they shall not escape.

6 trumpets,6 warnings to the world,to turn to God,but after each trumpet they still do not turn to God,and after the 6th trumpet,which is a war which one third of the population of the world perishes,and they do not turn to God,so He gives them the man of sin to rule over them.

The ten horn kingdom failed at obtaining peace on earth,and they turn to the man of sin to solve their problems,and for the solution to have a peaceful world.The man of sin will rule for three and one half years,and persecute all who hold the testimony that Jesus is Lord and Savior.

God will restore the kingdom on earth to Israel after the 7 years period is up,which Jesus said they will not see Him again,until they say blessed is He that comes in the name of the Lord,which God turned them to the truth that Jesus is their Messiah.

Rev 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

The woman is Israel,and the 12 tribes of Israel,and Jesus said salvation is of the Jews.It is not about Mary.

Rev 12:2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.

Jesus came from the nation of Israel from the tribe of Judah.

Rev 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

The 7 heads are 1.Egypt 2.Assyria 3.Babylon 4.Medo-Persia(Iran) 5.Greece 6.Roman Empire,who does not lose their dominion until God puts them down 7.Ten horn kingdom,the world split in to ten sections,with a leader in each section.All Gentile nations together,but the dominion is the Roman Empire.

The ten horn kingdom is the physical dominion of the beast kingdom coming in the future,and will start when the man of sin establishes peace in the Middle East,and they say Peace and safety for the world.

The crowns are on the heads,Satan in the spiritual realm deceiving people by way of the 7 kingdoms,which the ten horn kingdom will rule for three and one half years,before the man of sin claims to be God,who is the embodiment of Satan.

In Revelation 13 the crowns are on the horns,Satan in the physical realm deceiving people.

Rev 12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
Rev 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

Satan against the holy child Christ Jesus,and after He provided salvation at the cross,was caught up to heaven,and sits on the right hand of God,which means He was exalted to exercise the throne of power,which Jesus said,all power is given unto Me in heaven and earth,and will rule the world in the future,and the kingdom restored to Israel,in the millennial reign of Christ.

Rev 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

Israel is protected for the first three and one half years of the 7 years period.

Rev 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
Rev 12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

This war has not happened yet,and is a future war,and not the rebellion that took place in the 3rd heaven.

After the 6th trumpet and the world does not turn to God,and repent of their sins,and ask God to help them,but keep trying to solve their problems on their own,God gives them the man of sin to rule over them.

WW1,terrible war,they do not turn to God,but set up League of Nations to try to have peace on earth.WW2,terrible war,they do not turn to God,but set up United Nations to try to have peace on earth.

That pattern will continue until God gives them the man of sin to rule over them,for they keep trying to solve their problems,and will not turn to God.

Rev 18:1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
Rev 18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

God gives them the man of sin to rule over them,and war breaks out in heaven between Michael and his angels,and the dragon and his angels,and the fallen angels lose that battle,and are cast to earth,where the earth becomes the holding cell of the devils,and Satan is no longer the prince of the power of the air,and Satan appears as the beast to deceive all people who do not love God.

Rev 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
Rev 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
Rev 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

Now has come salvation,and when the beast persecutes the saints they will be resurrected to heaven.

The devil knows he is a defeated foe,and has great wrath,because he knows he has but a short time before he is punished.

Rev 12:13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
Rev 12:14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
Rev 12:15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
Rev 12:16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.

Israel is protected for the last three and one half years of the 7 years period,for God has a plan to bring her to the truth,and restore the kingdom on earth to Israel,and it cannot be thwarted.

And tell you the truth,that although Israel is so small of a nation,because God has a plan to bring her to the truth,and restore the kingdom on earth to her,that the whole world,right now,could assemble all the mighty,fighting,men of the world,with weapons up the wazoo,and go against Israel,and they would not succeed at defeating her.

They could stand afar off,and throw every nuclear weapon on the planet at her,and would not accomplish their goal of defeating Israel.

God's plan cannot be thwarted.

Isa 31:4 For thus hath the LORD spoken unto me, Like as the lion and the young lion roaring on his prey, when a multitude of shepherds is called forth against him, he will not be afraid of their voice, nor abase himself for the noise of them: so shall the LORD of hosts come down to fight for mount Zion, and for the hill thereof.
Isa 31:5 As birds flying, so will the LORD of hosts defend Jerusalem; defending also he will deliver it; and passing over he will preserve it.

God is working with Israel,and Israel fighter pilots paved the way to win the 6 day war,in which they took control of Jerusalem,as birds flying,fighter jets,the LORD shall defend Jerusalem,deliver it,and perserve it.

The only nation in the whole world that is jusified for fighting with physical force against her enemies,no other nation can do that,and be justified,and God said no nation can rule unless He allows it.

Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

The dragon was mad at Israel,and went to make war against those which keep the commandments of God,and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Which the beast shall make war against the saints,and prevail against them(Revelation 13:7).

Shall destroy the mighty and holy people(Daniel 8:24).

They shall be given in to His hands for three and one half years(Daniel 7:25).

And when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people,the resurrection shall happen,and all the saints will be with Jesus,in which He will avenge the saints(Revelation 6:9-11),and when the world attacks Israel God will come back with His saints,and defeat the world,and save Israel(Zechariah 14:1-5;12;2 Thessalonians 2:1-10,Joel 3:9-16,Revelation 19:11-21).

The woman is not Mary,but Israel,and there is no Mary without Israel,for it all stems from Israel,although it all stems from God,and she is protected from being taken down during the 7 years period,for God has a plan to bring her to the truth that Jesus is their Messiah,and restore the kingdom on earth to Israel.
 

Blain

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Synergy this might interest you [video=youtube;i_c1sDurGmY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_c1sDurGmY[/video]
 
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I'll admit that I didn't read the prior posts.

The demons of hell influence the intellectual,emotional,and spiritually weak.

Who does that sound like to you?

Tonight go to the popular place where everyone hangs out and just sit back and watch.
 
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Synergy this might interest you [video=youtube;i_c1sDurGmY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_c1sDurGmY[/video]
please can anyone teach us how to download this video from Youtube?

myself and Blain have been working on it, but we have not been able to download it.

for anyone who is kind enough to download it, send it to me or Blain

thank you!
 
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please can anyone teach us how to download this video from Youtube?

myself and Blain have been working on it, but we have not been able to download it.

for anyone who is kind enough to download it, send it to me or Blain

thank you!
Requires special software. Some browsers have add ons that allow you to do this, such as Firefox.
 
May 13, 2017
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I believe so many of us might have been asking this question over the years without an accurate answer, I still find it difficult to explain myself.
The Bible made us to understand that there was a pregnant woman in HEAVEN (Rev. 12:1-2)
HEAVEN- not -EARTH!
1. Who was the woman, and who is the child she conceived?
While growing up, the Catholics made us to understand that the woman was Mary and the Child is Jesus.
According to the Holy Bible, Mary conceived Jesus Christ on earth and not in HEAVEN
“The woman fled into the wilderness to a place prepared for her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days”. Rev. 12:6
2. Did Mary flee to the wilderness after she gave birth to Jesus?
Immediately Jesus Christ was born, God told Joseph (the Man) [… not Mary (the Woman)] to take him [Jesus Christ] to Egypt Matt. 2:13-14
Even if there were a correlation between the Woman in HEAVEN the Bible talked about and Mary mother of Jesus; the years Jesus stayed in Egypt during infancy would be able to give us an insight.
3. How many years did Jesus Christ stayed Egypt.
LOL Interesting question....The woman is the church..She gives birth to the manchild...Also called the Bride.
 
Dec 12, 2013
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The 12 signs of the Mazzaroth (mentioned in Job) tell the complete story.....these have been corrupted into the 12 signs of the Zodiac......what you reference is celestial in scope and as these signs align in Revelation we see the completion of the mystery of God and the end of the current age!
 
May 13, 2017
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The 12 signs of the Mazzaroth (mentioned in Job) tell the complete story.....these have been corrupted into the 12 signs of the Zodiac......what you reference is celestial in scope and as these signs align in Revelation we see the completion of the mystery of God and the end of the current age!
The Gospel in the Stars by Joseph A. Seiss