Suicide instant hell?

[SovereignGrace]

When we think suicide, what do we think? A gun, noose, hand full of pills, car running in a garage, jumping off a building, &c. But what about the one who has been sick for several years, and decides to stop taking their meds, or stop eating just to keep from the pains they were enduring? Is this not a form of suicide, too? I'd think so.

Now, my former pastor had battled cancer 3 times, and the third time, when he started taking chemo, his feet turned blue, and he decided to quit taking it and let nature run its course. Is this any different than taking a hand full of pills, a pistol behind the ear, a noose, jumping off a building, &c? Again, I'd say no, and I believe he is resting with God.

 

[NoNameMcgee]

I think Blain was referring to born again Christians. It does happen to them also.

"self murder" I think it would have more to do with hating yourself or
your circumstances.

It can also be argued that other kinds of potential self murder include
being reckless, alcoholism, doing drugs or other activities which can
potentially shorten your life span. Suicide though is very specific
and tends to be due to depression, anxiety, mental health problems.
People in this state of mind are not thinking clearly.


One thing not mentioned in this thread is that it is Satan who goes around
like a roaring lion seeking to destroy.

By the way, Jesus was tempted to commit suicide in the wilderness.
Satan told him to jump.
Jesus knows what it is like to have suicidal thoughts.

he didnt do it though

 

[NoNameMcgee]

i also agree those things can be suicide if you die as a direct result to them

but if Jesus would have jumped
and died

do you think he wouldve made a perfect sacrifice for all our sins?


he RESISTED that sin of self murder


also since hes Jesus

he probably couldve landed gentley if he wanted

 

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[TD="class: mcnTextContent"][h=2]Dealing with Depression and Discouragement[/h]By Ray Viola on May 14, 2017 04:13 am
Isaiah 50:10 Who is among you that feareth the LORD, that obeyeth the voice of his servant, that walketh in darkness, and hath no light? let him trust in the name of the LORD, and stay upon his God.
Every single follower of Jesus Christ is going to face times of depression and discouragement. It is inevitable. Until we are with The Lord in glory, we will face trials that test our faith in God to the limits. Our study this morning reminds us that the people of God have always had to deal with circumstances and trials that brought them to tears day and night. Can you relate to that this morning, beloved? Proverbs 4:22 tells us that God’s Word is health, or medicine for our souls. God’s Word ministers to our souls and reaches its deep recesses where no medicine of man can reach.
Because of an unrealistic, “hype” faith message that is so popular today, many of Christ’s followers are made to feel guilty into condemnation because of their battles with depression and discouragement. Beloved, Jesus Christ has provided for each and every one of His children things that pertain to life and godliness (2 Peter 1:3). There is hope and comfort in God’s Word, which enables us to deal with depression and discouragement in a God-designed way that gives Him glory.
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[OneFaith]

So I have confused about suicide. Now I was told that if you commit suicide you instantly go to hell which i know is a Catholic doctrine but I also have talked with many Christians who believe the same. Now according to a lot of Catholics if you even try to kill yourself your only destination is hell, and my friend when I asked her about suicide and hell she said yes if you kill yourself you go to hell because you cannot ask for forgiveness when your dead( she believes if you don't repent for every sin you make you can lose your salvation) But even though i wanted to explain to her that isn't how grace works i couldn't because sadly she cannot be talked to like that she gets very emotional and frustrated and has a heart problem.

Here is the thing though, I have never found in scripture that suicide is instant condemnation. I do wonder how things would have turned out for me when i tried to kill myself, i was just saved but things at my house were so deeply depressing and I was so alone that I couldn't deal with it anymore and even though I was afraid I would go to hell in my tears I begged for God to forgive me and attempted ti kill myself of course luckily I failed.

But many people commit suicide because of deep pain and sadness loneliness and heart ache, if one was saved but killed themselves because of the heaviness of all this would god since he knows more than anyone how deeply pain and sadness can cut you have mercy on them or would he send them to fires?

Suicide is self-murder. You did not create yourself and have no right to destroy yourself. The Bible says our bodies are the temple of God, and to treat it as such. Murdering it is the worse possible thing you can do- destroying God's temple that HE built. Murders will not go to heaven. The blood of Jesus is powerful enough to cleanse any and every sin. But the problem is you would no longer be in Christ- you would be a prodigal son with no time to repent and come back to the Father before it's too late.

Having said that, if one is in a state of mind to where they don't understand what they are doing, yet do not have the intention of murder, it may not be counted as murder. Even on the earth, judges can pronounce "innocent by reason of insanity." But This is a Judge who needs no clues or evidence, Who knows every thought and intention of the heart, and if He finds the intention of murder, "Do not be deceived. Murderers, slanderers, homosexual offenders, shall not enter."

 

[Grace777x70]

We do not go in and out of Christ because of walking by the flesh or by having a sickness in our minds. It's a bunch of religious foolishness.

Walk by the flesh and we will not experience on this earth the inheritance that is ours in the kingdom of God. This is why we need to be teaching how to walk by the spirit.

Jesus said that the Holy Spirit will with us and in us forever. John 14:16. Jesus said that "none that come to Me will I lose." Jesus said No one can pluck you out of My hand nor the Father's hand. Jesus said "I will never leave you nor forsake you."

Now, we all need to make a decision. Is Jesus a liar?

Me, I say No.

 

[OneFaith]

We do not go in and out of Christ because of walking by the flesh or by having a sickness in our minds. It's a bunch of religious foolishness.

The parable of the prodigal son proves that false. He was with the father, he left the father, and when he returned his father said "My son was dead, now he is alive." The son didn't die physically- that means while he was away from the father he was spiritually dead.

 

[Grace777x70]

The parable of the prodigal son proves that false. He was with the father, he left the father, and when he returned his father said "My son was dead, now he is alive."

The prodigal son is talking about all man-kind. The earth is the Lord's and the people belong to Him. All people come from God - we are made in His likeness and thus belong to Him.

People need to come to Christ - don't be teaching this religious garbage that Christians go in and out of Christ once they are sealed with the Holy Spirit forever.

If any man be in Christ - he is a new creation - created in righteousness and holiness. Preach Christ and not this religious nonsense so that people can grow up in Him.

The parable of the lost son, the lost coin, and the lost sheep are all together when Jesus said them - and they speak of God restoring them back to Himself. The coin, the son, and the sheep all speak of original "ownership". Because the coin, sheep and son were lost - they still belonged to the original owner - which is God.

 

[DiscipleDave]

So I have confused about suicide. Now I was told that if you commit suicide you instantly go to hell which i know is a Catholic doctrine but I also have talked with many Christians who believe the same.

Nobody instantly goes to Heaven or to Hell when they die. Judgment Day is the only day that determines where a person will spend eternity. Judgment Day is NOT the day a person dies.

Now according to a lot of Catholics if you even try to kill yourself your only destination is hell, and my friend when I asked her about suicide and hell she said yes if you kill yourself you go to hell because you cannot ask for forgiveness when your dead( she believes if you don't repent for every sin you make you can lose your salvation) But even though i wanted to explain to her that isn't how grace works i couldn't because sadly she cannot be talked to like that she gets very emotional and frustrated and has a heart problem.

Blaspheme of the Holy Ghost is the only sin not forgiven unto people. No matter what you say, no matter what you do, you can afterwards feel bad for it, be convicted by it, and repent of whatever it was you said and did. The ONLY situation that is not possible is suicide. You can't possibly repent of killing yourself. It is the ONLY sin not forgiven unto people.

Know you not that we as Christians are not to kill people, how is killing ones self NOT killing someone? God has a plan for every single person on this planet, regardless is they are Christian or not. It is never Gods plan for a person to commit suicide. EVER. If a person is so enveloped in sadness, depression, loneliness, and the such, these are not traits of God but caused by satan. If Jesus, which is LOVE, resides in a person, they will not be wracked with those feelings, those feelings may come temporarily, but they are something that Jesus wants us to fight against, NOT embraced. Anyone who desires to kill themselves, is not right in God. LOVE is not in them, they are overwhelmed by feelings that come from satan and not from God. We are instructed to be content with what we have, to NOT worry. If then you are NOT content, and you do worry and stress, and get depressed, you are not walking in the light of God but in darkness, and choosing to remain there. But do not despair, if you are able to receive it then receive it, those who have killed themselves, does not mean they are automatically Hell bound.

Here is the thing though, I have never found in scripture that suicide is instant condemnation.

You will also not find that it is instant Heaven either.

I do wonder how things would have turned out for me when i tried to kill myself, i was just saved but things at my house were so deeply depressing and I was so alone that I couldn't deal with it anymore and even though I was afraid I would go to hell in my tears I begged for God to forgive me and attempted ti kill myself of course luckily I failed.

1Co_10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

This verse plainly teaches that God will not put on any person what they can't handle, and it also teaches with every temptation He allows a path out of it. If then they think they can't handle it, nor do they look for any path provided to them, how are they not denying Christ? satan tells them they are alone. satan tells them they want to end it all. satan tells them they can't deal with. satan is talking so much they can't hear Jesus saying "I'm here, I'm here" Those who draw close to God, God will draw close to them. Those who remove themselves from God, well God's hands are tied and He does not draw close to them. The farther away a person gets from God, the more God withdraws Himself from that person and the more satan swoops in for the kill. Filling that person with lies, that ending it would solve everything, and that they would no longer have to FEEL anything at all. All lies of satan to get a person to kill their self.

But many people commit suicide because of deep pain and sadness loneliness and heart ache,

None of those things are from God.

if one was saved but killed themselves because of the heaviness of all this would god since he knows more than anyone how deeply pain and sadness can cut you have mercy on them or would he send them to fires?

The verse that teaches that those who die with no hope still have a chance, because of His Grace:

1Th_4:13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.

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[Ahwatukee]

Nobody instantly goes to Heaven or to Hell when they die. Judgment Day is the only day that determines where a person will spend eternity. Judgment Day is NOT the day a person dies.

Hello Dave! Scripture says different:

"But if I go on living in the body, this will mean fruitful labor for me. So what shall I choose? I do not know. I am torn between the two. I desire to depart and be with Christ, which is far better indeed. But it is more necessary for you that I remain in the body."

"Therefore we are always confident, although we know that while we are at home in the body, we are away from the Lord. For we walk by faith, not by sight. We are confident, then, and would prefer to be away from the body and at home with the Lord."

So, while we are present in this body we are absent from the Lord, but when we are absent from the body (at the time of death) our spirits/souls will be in the presence of the Lord.

 

[Ahwatukee]

Nobody instantly goes to Heaven or to Hell when they die. Judgment Day is the only day that determines where a person will spend eternity. Judgment Day is NOT the day a person dies.

Also, you might want to reread the event of the rich man and Lazarus, that is, unless you have interpreted it as parable, which would be in error to do so. Lazarus was in a place of comfort/paradise and the rich man was in torment in flame.

 

[Ahwatukee]

Nobody instantly goes to Heaven or to Hell when they die. Judgment Day is the only day that determines where a person will spend eternity. Judgment Day is NOT the day a person dies.

* While they were stoning him, Stephen prayed, "Lord Jesus, receive my spirit."

* But no one in heaven or on earth or under the earth was able to open the scroll or look inside it

* And I heard every creature in heaven, and on earth, and under the earth, and in the sea, and all that is in them, saying

* And when the Lamb opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony they had upheld. And they cried out in a loud voice, “How long, O Lord, holy and true, until You judge those who live on the earth and avenge our blood?”

* Two men, Moses and Elijah, appeared in glorious splendor, talking with Jesus. They spoke about his departure,[SUP]a[/SUP] which he was about to bring to fulfillment at Jerusalem.

* Then he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.” Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise

As you can see from above, there are just too many scriptures that demonstrate conscious existence of the spirit/soul after death.

 

[Rockrz]

I think bro that is a subject left to God

Yes, God covers this subject in His Word... so He has in fact answered this question:

1 Corinthians 3:17
If any man destroys the temple of God, God will destroy him

Our body is designed to be a dwelling place for God (2 Corinthians 6:16), and since whatever we sow is what we reap (Galatians 6:7,8)... if we murder ourselves, then we are disqualified from spending eternity with the Lord simply because we have rejected Him by destroying His temple having murdered ourself

Pretty simple.

Plus, God says we are to present our bodies a living sacrifice unto Him and this is our "reasonable" service. Murdering yourself is rejecting this command and is a sin.

Romans 12:1
I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.

It's problematic when others claim you can whack yerself and still go to Heaven because they cannot make that assurance since they don't decide who gets in and who doesn't and... it promotes suicide because many asking about this are thinking about whacking themselves and/or satan is pushing them to do so.

They only way to tell for sure is whack yerself and see where you end up.

 

[Rockrz]

I'll post more on this laterz

 

[Sagart]

Salvation in Christ is eternal, unmerited, and never rescinded.

Salvation is salvation from sin and its consequences.

Matt. 1:19. And Joseph her husband, being a righteous man and not wanting to disgrace her, planned to send her away secretly.
20. But when he had considered this, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, "Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary as your wife; for the Child who has been conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit.
21. “She will bear a Son; and you shall call His name Jesus, for He will save His people from their sins.”

1 John 1:9. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

When sinners place their faith in Christ and confess their sins, He is “faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.”

1 Cor. 6:9. Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,
10. nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.
11. Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.

However, it is our responsibility keep ourselves clean; and, should be become recontaminated, we are instructed in the New Testament to cleanse ourselves from all defilement of flesh and spirit,

2 Cor. 7:1. Therefore, having these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all defilement of flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.

James 4:8. Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double-minded.

1 John 3:3. And everyone who has this hope fixed on Him purifies himself, just as He is pure.

All too often, however, Christians who have been washed and sanctified by faith in Christ
(Acts 26:18) do not bother to cleanse themselves and the last state becomes worse for them than the first ,

2 Peter 2:20. For if, after they have escaped the defilements of the world by the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and are overcome, the last state has become worse for them than the first.
21. For it would be better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn away from the holy commandment handed on to them.
22. It has happened to them according to the true proverb, “A DOG RETURNS TO ITS OWN VOMIT,” and, “A sow, after washing, returns to wallowing in the mire.”

If the act of suicide is the consequence of again becoming entangled in the defilements of the world, the last state of that person becomes worse for them than the first. However, if the act of suicide is committed by an otherwise faithful Christian, it is my opinion that that faithfulness will trump an act of desperation.

(All quotations from Scripture are from the NASB, 1995)

 

[Sagart]

Yes, God covers this subject in His Word... so He has in fact answered this question:

1 Corinthians 3:17
If any man destroys the temple of God, God will destroy him


Our body is designed to be a dwelling place for God (2 Corinthians 6:16), and since whatever we sow is what we reap (Galatians 6:7,8)... if we murder ourselves, then we are disqualified from spending eternity with the Lord simply because we have rejected Him by destroying His temple having murdered ourself

Pretty simple.

1Cor. 3:16. Οὐκ οἴδατε ὅτι ναὸς Θεοῦ ἐστε καὶ τὸ Πνεῦμα τοῦ Θεοῦ οἰκεῖ ἐν ὑμῖν;
17. εἴ τις τὸν ναὸν τοῦ Θεοῦ φθείρει, φθερεῖ τοῦτον ὁ Θεός· ὁ γὰρ ναὸς τοῦ Θεοῦ ἅγιός ἐστιν, οἵτινές ἐστε ὑμεῖς.

In verse 16, the verb ἐστε is plural rather than singular. Therefore, the individual believer’s body is not the temple; but rather, the congregation is the temple.

Plus, God says we are to present our bodies a living sacrifice unto Him and this is our "reasonable" service. Murdering yourself is rejecting this command and is a sin.

Being impolite when talking with someone whom you do not like is also a sin. Would that be an automatic ticket to hell if the speaker died on the spot from an unrelated heart attack?

 

[joefizz]

well the bible states that"thou shalt not kill" as a commandment so it clarifies killing is wrong,also to clarify about Jesus' crucifixion it was not suicide,true he knew what was to take place and that he was to die for us,but he was beaten,scourged,and nailed to a cross,which is clearly not a suicidal death,and is it not written that Jesus said that it was God's will that Jesus die for our sins,not his own,thereby impossible for him to have committed suicide,now the bible gives many times when someone had the choice to give up their beliefs or die, but many times did God protect them,shadrach,meshach and abednegoe faced a furnace,daniel faced the lions den,esther and her family faced banishment(and hangings) yet God brought them through these terrible fates to where truth outshined lies and God kept them from death,so why would he be okay with you taking the very life he gave you after all he has done for you? Having his son die for you so you wouldn't die in sin,his son taking the very keys of hell from the devil,so that you would have more time to mend your ways and not have to fear hell so abundantly,giving us the holy spirit so we could be comforted while we wait for Jesus to Return,and on top of this Jesus said"all who endureth to the end for my name sake shall see heaven" so there is no doubt about it suicide's result is hell whether immediately or eventually,as for an attempt on your life and not dieing,well have you not time to ask for forgiveness? is it not written that only God and Jesus have power over sin as well as are the only ones who can forgive sin?well than trouble yourself not for what you might have,focus now on what you can do for God,was not Saul later named Paul a killer of God's people yet Jesus humbled him and allowed for him to join the disciples and apostles?you as well can still serve God, true you attempted to take your own life yet you lived, think you not that God would not allow it for he has use of you,yes indeed,for through your experience of depression and attempted self death you can reach out to others like yourself that cope with wanting to end their lives and teach what you have learned from the truth that death is not the answer and that it is better to endure the evils of this world rather than indulge in them,for the devil wants you to be confused and feel hopeless for as it is written if the devil doesn't trouble you then he already has you,so do what you can to help others to understand what to do concerning suicide now that you know THE TRUTH and try not to let doubt enter your mind again,search out God's word alongside the holy spirit before you believe others so quickly because many are they who lie in wait wanting to confound you but when you know THE TRUTH they cannot confound you for the bible is God's word and when you believe it to be true you can learn much so as to not be deceived!

 

[Silverwings]

https://www.gotquestions.org/Christian-suicide-saved.html

 

[BenFTW]

Yes, God covers this subject in His Word... so He has in fact answered this question:

1 Corinthians 3:17
If any man destroys the temple of God, God will destroy him

Our body is designed to be a dwelling place for God (2 Corinthians 6:16), and since whatever we sow is what we reap (Galatians 6:7,8)... if we murder ourselves, then we are disqualified from spending eternity with the Lord simply because we have rejected Him by destroying His temple having murdered ourself

Pretty simple.

Plus, God says we are to present our bodies a living sacrifice unto Him and this is our "reasonable" service. Murdering yourself is rejecting this command and is a sin.

Romans 12:1
I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.

It's problematic when others claim you can whack yerself and still go to Heaven because they cannot make that assurance since they don't decide who gets in and who doesn't and... it promotes suicide because many asking about this are thinking about whacking themselves and/or satan is pushing them to do so.

They only way to tell for sure is whack yerself and see where you end up.

I suppose one might think fear would stop a person, but what if their experience in this life outweighs their fear? What good is it to fear Hell, when even that notion is incapable of quenching their thirst for deliverance? Again, they aren't in the right state of mind and they have a warped perspective on their reality. Their mindset is hopeless and unforgiving, they see no light at the end of the tunnel.

Trust me, that is a harrowing thought to think that if I teach a suicidal person who commits suicide will go to Heaven and a person then takes their life with confidence because of me. Obviously they weren't in the right state of mind to begin with and maybe that revelation makes it that much easier. However, this is why it is often prefaced or a post is made, addressing those going through those emotions, directing them to recognize that they have a purpose. A reason to live, and that God can set them free.

The discussion really shouldn't even be about Heaven and Hell, but rather God's deliverance. He can fill them with hope and joy. He can free them from what burdens them, He can set them free. The only place this discussion has is with those that are grieving. Why? What hope do you offer them if suicide immediately means Hell? What comfort? Does their Good Good Father send their child, who was a believer, to Hell? Imagine what that doctrine does to the heart of those mourning over a suicide.

We understand that God is merciful, echoed all throughout scripture. Knowing this, how dare we insinuate that He cannot see what we mere humans see? If our hearts are saddened for another, empathetic to their emotions, how then does God who knows all things and sees our heart, not in our minds save that person, who according to His word, is His child? Do we really imagine a scenario in which a believer takes their life, stands before God, and says, "I'm sorry Father. I couldn't take it any longer." His response, "I never knew you." Or do we imagine an embrace, a comforting hug that breaks down all walls piercing the heart with His everlasting love?

In fact, I find the above to be emotional reasoning instead of standing upon God's truth of Christ and Him crucified. We don't even need to consider His mercy in that of seeing their heart in the matter, but rather their heart towards Christ. Are they of the faith? Do they believe in the Son of God, the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world? Is there really any other criteria by which we are saved or is the Gospel straightforward? Christ and Him crucified.

 

[blue_ladybug]

Dave, first you say that blasphemy (denying Jesus) is the ONLY sin that cannot be forgiven of us. Then you contradict yourself by stating that suicide is the only sin which we cannot be forgiven for. You don't know that, no one knows that. GOD will judge their heart and know why they did it. And He alone will decide whether to forgive them or not.

Nobody instantly goes to Heaven or to Hell when they die. Judgment Day is the only day that determines where a person will spend eternity. Judgment Day is NOT the day a person dies.



Blaspheme of the Holy Ghost is the only sin not forgiven unto people. No matter what you say, no matter what you do, you can afterwards feel bad for it, be convicted by it, and repent of whatever it was you said and did. The ONLY situation that is not possible is suicide. You can't possibly repent of killing yourself. It is the ONLY sin not forgiven unto people.

Know you not that we as Christians are not to kill people, how is killing ones self NOT killing someone? God has a plan for every single person on this planet, regardless is they are Christian or not. It is never Gods plan for a person to commit suicide. EVER. If a person is so enveloped in sadness, depression, loneliness, and the such, these are not traits of God but caused by satan. If Jesus, which is LOVE, resides in a person, they will not be wracked with those feelings, those feelings may come temporarily, but they are something that Jesus wants us to fight against, NOT embraced. Anyone who desires to kill themselves, is not right in God. LOVE is not in them, they are overwhelmed by feelings that come from satan and not from God. We are instructed to be content with what we have, to NOT worry. If then you are NOT content, and you do worry and stress, and get depressed, you are not walking in the light of God but in darkness, and choosing to remain there. But do not despair, if you are able to receive it then receive it, those who have killed themselves, does not mean they are automatically Hell bound.



You will also not find that it is instant Heaven either.




1Co_10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

This verse plainly teaches that God will not put on any person what they can't handle, and it also teaches with every temptation He allows a path out of it. If then they think they can't handle it, nor do they look for any path provided to them, how are they not denying Christ? satan tells them they are alone. satan tells them they want to end it all. satan tells them they can't deal with. satan is talking so much they can't hear Jesus saying "I'm here, I'm here" Those who draw close to God, God will draw close to them. Those who remove themselves from God, well God's hands are tied and He does not draw close to them. The farther away a person gets from God, the more God withdraws Himself from that person and the more satan swoops in for the kill. Filling that person with lies, that ending it would solve everything, and that they would no longer have to FEEL anything at all. All lies of satan to get a person to kill their self.




None of those things are from God.



The verse that teaches that those who die with no hope still have a chance, because of His Grace:

1Th_4:13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.

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