How can stars fall into the earth, since many stars are much larger than Earth?

[so-jesus-e-deus]

• “And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.” (Revelation 6.13).

 

[tourist]

• “And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.” (Revelation 6.13).

It says that the stars of heaven fall to earth not the stars in the space of the universe.

 

[posthuman]

I turned around to see the voice that was speaking to me. And when I turned I saw seven golden lampstands, and among the lampstands was someone like a son of man, dressed in a robe reaching down to his feet and with a golden sash around his chest. The hair on his head was white like wool, as white as snow, and his eyes were like blazing fire. His feet were like bronze glowing in a furnace, and his voice was like the sound of rushing waters. In his right hand he held seven stars, and coming out of his mouth was a sharp, double-edged sword. His face was like the sun shining in all its brilliance.
(Revelation 1:12-16)
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how can He hold seven stars in His hand?

if He's that enormous, how big are the lampstands?

((keeps reading))

The mystery of the seven stars that you saw in my right hand and of the seven golden lampstands is this: The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches, and the seven lampstands are the seven churches.
(Revelation 1:20)
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oh, maybe it's symbolic language.

 

[Willie-T]

They are not just larger than the earth, they are larger they our sun by sometimes millions of times. And our sun is a million times larger than Earth.

To insist on reading Revelation literally, is bordering on insanity.

 

[Ariel82]

• “And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.” (Revelation 6.13).

Revelation 12
4His tail swept down a third of the stars of heaven and cast them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was about to give birth, so that when she bore her child he might devour it.

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9And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world—he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him.

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The Dragon is Satan. The stars are fallen angels.

 

[posthuman]

Revelation 12
4His tail swept down a third of the stars of heaven and cast them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was about to give birth, so that when she bore her child he might devour it.

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9And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world—he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him.

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The Dragon is Satan. The stars are fallen angels.

continuing to read, and not just lifting out one or two sentences apart from their context, is a good strategy for understanding

 

[OneFaith]

• “And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.” (Revelation 6.13).

This is symbolic, not literal. The stars are demons that used to be angels, along with Satan. Another example: "A star fell from Heaven, and his name was wormwood. He came to destroy."

 

[Ariel82]

His profile says a student and minister. So maybe he is just trying to provoke thought and conversation?

 

[Zmouth]

I can't believe ya'll still believe that the celestial bodies in the heaven produce light.

 

[posthuman]

His profile says a student and minister. So maybe he is just trying to provoke thought and conversation?

or maybe this is the student side, not the minister side

 

[posthuman]

I can't believe ya'll still believe that the celestial bodies in the heaven produce light.

are you turning this into another flat-earth thread??

 

[JaumeJ]

If anyone is familiar with the expanding universe or big bang theory, he knows the universe began as an explosion from a central mass of energy and perhaps matter. (Matter could be defined as slow energy.)

According to the theory all of the universe is expanding at the same rate from that central beginning with the exception of perturbed bodies which habe been knocked out of their own unification with all other matter by the action of other bodies perhaps exploding or gravity influences and other dynamics which could perturçb thei original orbit or expansion direction.

According to the theory when all has reached an optimum, it will implode, a fiery implosion.

Of course I believe the word before I believe the theories of man on how God does what He does, and it is odd that the description of the end of the age is so similar to what men believe they have theorized.

It says the creation itself will lpass away wiwth a loud noise and the very elements will melt away.

With the optimum having been attained, every thign will head back to the center where it began...therefore all bodies will callapse into each other.......the stars, all.

I believe the big bang theory is poppycock because I believe God, and what He teaches us in the Word seems to cover all very well, with no gaps unless one is lacking
faith.

Praise God, He is worthy, not we. Look to the ever-living and do not be bogged down by what is decaying.

 

[posthuman]

According to the theory all of the universe is expanding at the same rate from that central beginning with the exception of perturbed bodies which habe been knocked out of their own unification with all other matter by the action of other bodies perhaps exploding or gravity influences and other dynamics which could perturçb thei original orbit or expansion direction.

actually every cosmological model that embodies a point-source ((e.g. the mouth of God, as He spoke it into existence?)) origin of the physical universe includes some type of 'inflation' period, where the heavens were 'stretched out' after their creation, so that expansion has not been at a uniform rate over time.

observation requires it. observation of superstructures also requires non-constancy in direction, too - that there are 'pockets' of space that appear to have resulted from non-uniformity in expansion.

which agrees with scripture, btw

Bless the LORD, O my soul!
O LORD my God, You are very great;
You are clothed with splendor and majesty,
Covering Yourself with light as with a cloak,
Stretching out heaven like a tent curtain.
(Psalm 104:1-2)
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not that the scripture either is or intends to be an astrophysics textbook.
but the concept of God 'stretching out' i.e. expanding/inflating the heavens is mentioned several times in the Book, and as here in the psalm, in the ongoing, present tense -- also agreeing with astronomical observation, which reveals an universe that appears to yet be in a state of expansion.

those who study the skies argue over whether that expansion is increasing or decreasing in rate, and what kind of extrapolations can be made forward or backward in time according to what is observed now, but no one claims that the heavens all expand at a constant rate over all time and over all space.

 

[JaumeJ]

My point was that men will theorize and theorize, but they only come up with theories. They all have giant gaps, all of them.

The God I worship cand and will do whatever pleases Him, and whatever pleases Him, by faith I belive is all good.

Nothing God does is bound by what is falsely called knowledge. I believe anything withing the framework of mankind's science about the material world is temporal. When time goes out of existence , and the decaying is burned to ash, we will enter into the living, eternal Kingdom of God.


No man is capable of saying what it will be like except that it will be living and eternal and not fettered in any manner by what mankind calls knowledge.

 

[trofimus]

Please, people, realize that the vocabulary of today differs significantly from the vocabulary of the 1st century.

What they called "falling stars" we call "meteorites" today.

 

[JaumeJ]

I believe a word study would be in order before pronouncing on the translations of the Word.

Begin with original languages followed by etymological study of the words used.

If God gave His prophets the word "star," I believe Him.

 

[Locutus]

The language is metaphorical/symbolic, this is where the woody literalist dispensational "theologies" fail.

(Mat 11:23) And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted unto heaven, shalt be brought down to hell: for if the mighty works, which have been done in thee, had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day.

Capernaum was never literally exalted to heaven, or cast down into literal hell.

 

[Blain]

Well meteors and asteroids were also seen as stars and it isn't to far fetched to consider the possibility of a giant storm of meteors crashing down on earth. Not only are they considered stars symbolically but they also are seen as mountains of fire crashing down on earth. Much of bible prophecy is linked with symbolic meanings

 

[DiscipleDave]

• “And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.” (Revelation 6.13).

This is a reference to a meteor shower that will bombard the planet. Meteors in the past have always been called Falling stars. To which the above reference is speaking of.

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††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††

DiscipleDave.com

 

[Blain]

This is a reference to a meteor shower that will bombard the planet. Meteors in the past have always been called Falling stars. To which the above reference is speaking of.

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††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††

DiscipleDave.com

Well said well said indeed