Did Jesus pour His blood on the mercy seat before Father in heaven?

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I agree. The "pleading of the blood" is a Pentecostal belief that has been taught and thus become a tradition.

"If" I wanted to "plead the blood" I would say - all my sins have been washed away by the blood of the Lord Jesus Christ.

I would confess this:

Matthew 26:28 (KJV)
[SUP]28 [/SUP] For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

I would confess that I am declared justified - righteous.

Romans 5:9 (KJV)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.

I would confess I have redemption now - the forgiveness of sins: and it is all according to the riches of His grace.

Ephesians 1:7 (KJV)
[SUP]7 [/SUP] In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;
absolutely spot on correct!
 
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#82
No, He used a shop vac He bought with His debit card down at Home Depot!


God said in Hebrews 9:12 that "by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place"

We'll have to ask the Lord by what method He used to gather all His shed Blood to take it with Him to Heaven.

He is all powerful and the Creator of all things so... it was so because He decided that this is how it would be.

When God commands something, it just happens supernaturally and mankind's little pea brain sits around trying to figure out how He did it.

Why not simply believe what God said and know that He is capable of doing exactly what He said?

I learned long ago that this is something the Lord enjoys... when His people take Him at His Word and do not speak or thing as though it's possible He did not do exactly what He said He did.
To say he used ALL OF HIS BLOOD is not implied....and your response was ridiculous......
 
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Consider the possibility that it could be true...

Ron Wyatt Discovers ARK OF COVENANT and JESUS BLOOD SAMPLE

Research Ron Wyatt's discovery of the Ark under the crucifixion site.

He says the blood that gushed out of the Lord's side ran down into a crack in the rock and onto the Mercy Seat.

The Lord's blood - at the time of His crucifixion - literally and physically - dripping onto the Mercy Seat.

Powerful!
Hello flat earther. The fact you believe the earth is flat, delusional ideas will make sense to you.
Jesus died so that we might know how much God loves us, but we have to do something in response.
 
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popeye

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Originally Posted by Meggido

There are only 2 things the Blood of Jesus do for us.

Forgive SIN
Ransom us from the powers of darkness

There is no indication in the scriptures that the Blood of Jesus protects you. Exodus 12 was not about protection it was about deliverance.

I agree. The "pleading of the blood" is a Pentecostal belief that has been taught and thus become a tradition.

"If" I wanted to "plead the blood" I would say - all my sins have been washed away by the blood of the Lord Jesus Christ.

I would confess this:

Matthew 26:28 (KJV)
[SUP]28 [/SUP] For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

I would confess that I am declared justified - righteous.

Romans 5:9 (KJV)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.

I would confess I have redemption now - the forgiveness of sins: and it is all according to the riches of His grace.

Ephesians 1:7 (KJV)
[SUP]7 [/SUP] In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;
Um,no,it is not some false belief with zero grounding in God's word.

In fact,it is invoking a dynamic FROM THE WORD.
In the hebrews reference,as well as the one in exodus,we see the blood SPECIFICALLY applied and used to PROTECT.

A plea is a legal term.
It is in fact decaring one's position.

Lets say you are asked upon entering into heaven "under what basis do you enter the father's presence"?

If you say ANYTHING other than the blood of Jesus,you will then need a lot of "luck",because I know of nothing going for your entrance at that point.
The "innumerable number" before the throne in revelation "washed their robes" in the blood of Jesus.
Their "plea" was "Jesus wash me in the blood"
IOW they "plead" the blood.

Heb 11;28
Through faith he kept the passover, and the sprinkling of blood, lest he that destroyed the firstborn should touch them.
 

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#85
You are correct popeye...no one is disputing the action of the blood of Jesus for protection from judgement.

What I am referring to is likened to taking the bible to bed with you at night because of fear.

Also similar to Paul beating the air. We all need a good foundation.
 
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Um,no,it is not some false belief with zero grounding in God's word.

In fact,it is invoking a dynamic FROM THE WORD.
In the hebrews reference,as well as the one in exodus,we see the blood SPECIFICALLY applied and used to PROTECT.

A plea is a legal term.
It is in fact decaring one's position.

Lets say you are asked upon entering into heaven "under what basis do you enter the father's presence"?

If you say ANYTHING other than the blood of Jesus,you will then need a lot of "luck",because I know of nothing going for your entrance at that point.
The "innumerable number" before the throne in revelation "washed their robes" in the blood of Jesus.
Their "plea" was "Jesus wash me in the blood"
IOW they "plead" the blood.

Heb 11;28
Through faith he kept the passover, and the sprinkling of blood, lest he that destroyed the firstborn should touch them.
Exodus 12 is not about protection but about deliverance. Would you rather be protected or delivered?

If the blood was a protection why did we not see that anywhere in the type and shadows of the OT?

Psalm 91 tells you what protects you and alas, the blood is not listed there.
 

stonesoffire

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There is one case of sprinkling the people that accompanied Moses up the mountain. That was for protection. Not sure if there are any more.
 

stonesoffire

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Exo 24:8 And Moses took the blood, and sprinkled it on the people, and said, Behold the blood of the covenant, which the LORD hath made with you concerning all these words.

Exo 24:9 Then went up Moses, and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel:

Exo 24:10 And they saw the God of Israel: and there wasunder his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness.

Exo 24:11 And upon the nobles of the children of Israel he laid not his hand: also they saw God, and did eat and drink.




 

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The blood sacrifice keeps man from being judged by God. That's the protection I see in scripture.

But, the authority of the name of Jesus is what we "plead". Boldly.
 
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pottersclay

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called by God as High Priest “according to the order of Melchizedek,” of whom we have much to say, and hard to explain, since you have become dull of hearing.

Might change things a bit.
 

stonesoffire

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The blood on the mercy seat before Father in heaven covers us, and our hearts are sprinkled as we walk with Him.

Heb 12:24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.

Heb 12:25 See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven:


 
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pottersclay

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Christ was made a Priest forever by an oath of the Most High God (Hebrews 7:20 - 21). His righteousness is the one manifested in the true saints of God (Romans 8:4). The church shares in the priesthood of Christ and the resurrected saints will, like Him, forever be kings and priests (Revelation 5:10). Jesus Christ is the one and only Melchizedek, the King of Peace and Righteousness.
 
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Book, Chapter and verse that the Blood represents Christ name please?
Well, we would have to get in to an in depth study of what a blood covenant is... and you'd get offended, and strife would break out.

If you are interested in knowing... go study what a blood covenant is and then understand that God made an everlasting covenant between Himself and Jesus (His Word) that is all powerful over all that God created and it's everlasting.

It's actually a great study that deals with spiritual absolutes or laws in the spirit realm that supersede anything satan can do here on earth since Jesus supersedes the authority satan got thru Adam's high treason against God in the garden.




Ransom us from the powers of darkness
Bingo!




There is no indication in the scriptures that the Blood of Jesus protects you.
Ok, since this is your position... it does not protect you because of your unbelief.

satan is very happy to hear you do not understand the Blood Covenant upon which God's plan of salvation is built upon.



"If" I wanted to "plead the blood" I would say - all my sins have been washed away by the blood of the Lord Jesus Christ.

I would confess this:

Matthew 26:28 (KJV)
28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

I would confess that I am declared justified - righteous.

Romans 5:9 (KJV)
9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.

I would confess I have redemption now - the forgiveness of sins: and it is all according to the riches of His grace.

Ephesians 1:7 (KJV)
7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;
These are all examples of declaring (not pleading as in begging) what God has done for us is true for you... and is very scriptural

Unless one is not very schooled in what God's Word teaches concerning what rights we have IN CHRIST that were purchased by the shed Blood of Jesus Christ.

It's a legal thing in the spirit that satan must bow to... IF a believer knows their rights in Christ.





To say he used ALL OF HIS BLOOD is not implied....and your response was ridiculous......
Well, I'm not a fan of claiming God lied in His Word... but I know that's been going around lately.

Your response is like those that claim gay marriage is OK (more and more that claim to be Christians) because Jesus never mentioned it... He doesn't have to because He defined what marriage is, so anything that is outside of His definition does not qualify for a marriage that is acceptable to God.

Since God said in Hebrews 9:12 that "by His own blood he entered in once into the holy place"... that's what it means.

Yeah, like Jesus left some of His Blood here laying around in the dirt... that's what is ridiculous!




A plea is a legal term.
It is in fact decaring one's position.
Exactly...




Exodus 12 is not about protection but about deliverance. Would you rather be protected or delivered?
When they got delivered, they were protected from the death angel because of the blood on their door posts




But, the authority of the name of Jesus is what we "plead". Boldly.
And, it's the shed Blood of Jesus and His resurrection that gives His Name power.




Jesus Christ is the one and only Melchizedek, the King of Peace and Righteousness.
Yes, and there He is receiving tithes, of Whom it is witnessed He lives!... another topic folk like to argue over
 
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Well, we would have to get in to an in depth study of what a blood covenant is... and you'd get offended, and strife would break out.

If you are interested in knowing... go study what a blood covenant is and then understand that God made an everlasting covenant between Himself and Jesus (His Word) that is all powerful over all that God created and it's everlasting.

It's actually a great study that deals with spiritual absolutes or laws in the spirit realm that supersede anything satan can do here on earth since Jesus supersedes the authority satan got thru Adam's high treason against God in the garden.






Bingo!






Ok, since this is your position... it does not protect you because of your unbelief.

satan is very happy to hear you do not understand the Blood Covenant upon which God's plan of salvation is built upon.





These are all examples of declaring (not pleading as in begging) what God has done for us is true for you... and is very scriptural

Unless one is not very schooled in what God's Word teaches concerning what rights we have IN CHRIST that were purchased by the shed Blood of Jesus Christ.

It's a legal thing in the spirit that satan must bow to... IF a believer knows their rights in Christ.







Well, I'm not a fan of claiming God lied in His Word... but I know that's been going around lately.

Your response is like those that claim gay marriage is OK (more and more that claim to be Christians) because Jesus never mentioned it... He doesn't have to because He defined what marriage is, so anything that is outside of His definition does not qualify for a marriage that is acceptable to God.

Since God said in Hebrews 9:12 that "by His own blood he entered in once into the holy place"... that's what it means.

Yeah, like Jesus left some of His Blood here laying around in the dirt... that's what is ridiculous!






Exactly...






When they got delivered, they were protected from the death angel because of the blood on their door posts






And, it's the shed Blood of Jesus and His resurrection that gives His Name power.






Yes, and there He is receiving tithes, of Whom it is witnessed He lives!... another topic folk like to argue over

Instead of answering 2 people posts, could you stick to one at a time? The blood covenant was not for protection ace, maybe you should take your own advice and instead of throwing out communicated Pentecostal doctrine around, you actually study the word for yourself.

The shed blood was for forgiveness of sin and deliverance and deliverance is not protection and never has been
 
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Exo 24:8 And Moses took the blood, and sprinkled it on the people, and said, Behold the blood of the covenant, which the LORD hath made with you concerning all these words.

Exo 24:9 Then went up Moses, and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel:

Exo 24:10 And they saw the God of Israel: and there wasunder his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness.

Exo 24:11 And upon the nobles of the children of Israel he laid not his hand: also they saw God, and did eat and drink.




Is this protection or atonement for sin, stones?
 
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The blood sacrifice keeps man from being judged by God. That's the protection I see in scripture.

But, the authority of the name of Jesus is what we "plead". Boldly.
The blood does not protect you from being judged, it is for the forgiveness of your sin.

The Bible even says this and this plain in Hebrews 9.
 

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In my thinking protection and forgiveness would be the same thing.

As I read that scripture...it was an additional act when Moses sprinkled the blood on the people.

I also see blood as an "intercessory" act.

And I may be wrong on this but isn't atonement when the high priest goes into the Holy of Holies once a year?

It's been a while since I've looked at those scriptures.