THIS GENERATION

[samuel23]

This should start a lot of discussion. Matt 24:34 this generation shall not pass until till all these things be fulfilled. Matt 23 and 24 tell us plainly from the context that Jesus was speaking of the generation that was living at the time He made that statement. So why do folks say that Jesus was speaking of a future generation? The answer to that is simple, it could be called a concession teaching because the actual teaching does not line up with what most folks consider reality. In other words, we can all see that the context points to Jesus speaking of the people living at that time, however we can also see that Jesus did not return in the sky and gather the church, so as a concession, we go against the actual context in order to make the words fit with what we know(Jesus has not returned). I take a little different position, I would rather believe that when Jesus said THIS generation that He actually meant the generation living at that time.
I would also rather believe that when Jesus said ALL, that He was only referring to what happened to Israel around 70ad, because all that Jesus said would happen to Israel in that generation did in fact happen to Israel in that generation. The actual return of Christ and the end of the age was yet in the future.

 

[Chris1975]

This generation means this generation that sees these things happening.

It is this generation will not pass away before Jesus returns.

 

[Blain]

Have you ever done a bible study on the term Generation? A generation is normally a group of people living at that time however the word Generation is used in varies ways in the bible. The term Generation is used in both a physical and spiritual context.

It doesn't always mean a time of specific people and a generation is not set in how many years a generation is

 

[Adstar]

This should start a lot of discussion. Matt 24:34 this generation shall not pass until till all these things be fulfilled. Matt 23 and 24 tell us plainly from the context that Jesus was speaking of the generation that was living at the time He made that statement.

I disagree the Generation He was speaking of was the generation that would see all the signs He mentioned in the list of the Signs of the end of the Age.. So in context the verse lets read the verses around this verse and see what generation jesus is talking about..

(Matthew 24:32-35) "Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: {33} So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. {34} Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. {35} Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away."

So the generation that shall not pass is the generation that will see all these things. These are mentioned in Matthew 24 before these verses.. these things include::

Christians being hated by all nations...
The Gospel will have been preached in all the World..
The abomination of the desolation standing in the place where it should not be..
Believers Fleeing to the mountains in Israel..
The Sun darkened after the days of Tribulation..
The moon not giving her light and the stars falling from the sky..

People have to realize this Message was to all Christians from all generations because none of us know the Day or the Hour of His comming..

 

[Dan_473]

Generation can also mean race or people group, I believe.

 

[Willie-T]

Generation can also mean race or people group, I believe.

While we're "stretching" this word into God knows what, why not say it could also mean, "Humans won't-die out before this happens."?

 

[tanakh]

Anyone who says that Jesus was talking about a Generation living in a distant future is plainly going against Scripture, the English Language and common sense. Jesus uses Generation in other passages. I have yet to meet anyone who argues that
he is addressing some future generation in those passages so why only in Matthew 24. The reason is because they ignore chapter 23 and the things Jesus says to the leadership about what will happen in their Generation and that metaphor,hyperbol and symbolism are used both by Jesus and many of the Bible writers to emphasis the seriousness of what they say and the importance of their message to the listener.

 

[Dan_473]

While we're "stretching" this word into God knows what, why not say it could also mean, "Humans won't-die out before this happens."?

You may be interested in note j here

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+24&version=NLT

 

[serpentdove]

"The Parable of the Fig Tree seems to indicate that the generation which sees the beginning of these things will see them all. But the triggering event may well be the Harpazo, the only prophetic event that is distinctively both unspecified and imminent..." Full text: This Generation Shall Not Pass... By Chuck Missler

 

[Chris1975]

Anyone who says that Jesus was talking about a Generation living in a distant future is plainly going against Scripture, the English Language and common sense. Jesus uses Generation in other passages. I have yet to meet anyone who argues that
he is addressing some future generation in those passages so why only in Matthew 24. The reason is because they ignore chapter 23 and the things Jesus says to the leadership about what will happen in their Generation and that metaphor,hyperbol and symbolism are used both by Jesus and many of the Bible writers to emphasis the seriousness of what they say and the importance of their message to the listener.

Because Tanakh ---- the disciples asked what the signs of the END of the AGE would be. Context is future. Not current.

[SUP]3 [/SUP]Now as He sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be? And what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?”

 

[Gabriel2020]

A generation is every forty years. that is the length of time the israelites was in the wilderness. for a generation.

 

[samuel23]

Hi Blain: Of course, I have did every study possible from every angle possible and I always come back to the same reality, Jesus statement of this generation, backed up clear context and what actually occurred in THAT generation, leaves me no choice but to accept that Jesus was in fact speaking of that generation, those people living at that time.

 

[samuel23]

The disciples FIRST asked when the destruction of the temple would occur, and then they asked when Christ would return. Jesus told them when the destruction would occur, in THAT generation, however he did not tell them when He would return, except He gave signs. So when Jesus described the abomination of desolation(about the temple) and telling His disciples to run for their lives, He had to be describing the first event, the destruction of the temple. It is interesting that Revelation mentions no abomination of desolation. I think the reason that Jesus said that He would return after the tribulation is because the tribulation had event one that involved Israel only, and event two that involves the entire world.

 

[Blain]

The disciples FIRST asked when the destruction of the temple would occur, and then they asked when Christ would return. Jesus told them when the destruction would occur, in THAT generation, however he did not tell them when He would return, except He gave signs. So when Jesus described the abomination of desolation(about the temple) and telling His disciples to run for their lives, He had to be describing the first event, the destruction of the temple. It is interesting that Revelation mentions no abomination of desolation. I think the reason that Jesus said that He would return after the tribulation is because the tribulation had event one that involved Israel only, and event two that involves the entire world.

Well if what you say is true then it began the end times from the moment Jesus spoke this however that would also mean it is a generation of the end times also meaning that until he returns the generation will not pass.

I think he was speaking of the present and then because if you notice we are seeing the signs of the end times today and many signs pointing to the Tribulation happening sometime soon as well. When Jesus returns after the Tribulation then it shall be finished the generation of the end days will have passed.

 

[Willie-T]

The interesting thing about concluding "this generation" has to mean TODAY, is that you are having every single generation since Jesus (50 of them) believing it was THEIR generation..... and you will have every generation that comes after you are long dead and buried, thinking it is going to be THEIR generation..... for the next 10,000 years, or more.

Jesus was pretty plain in saying, about The Day of The Lord, "No man will know the time.", so what on earth would He be doing trying to make people think they can know He was talking about the specific time of His return?

It is so obvious He was describing events SOON to come within the listeners' lifetimes... as they DID in 70AD.

 

[Blain]

The interesting thing about concluding "this generation" has to mean TODAY, is that you are having every single generation since Jesus (50 of them) believing it was THEIR generation..... and you will have every generation that comes after you are long dead and buried, thinking it is going to be THEIR generation..... for the next 10,000 years, or more.

Jesus was pretty plain in saying, about The Day of The Lord, "No man will know the time.", so what on earth would He be doing trying to make people think they can know He was talking about the specific time of His return?

It is so obvious He was describing events SOON to come within the listeners' lifetimes... as they DID in 70AD.

And yet you have so many date setters these days when the scriptures clearly say other wise......

 

[valiant]

This generation will not pass away until all these things are fulfilled. What was He referring to? The THESE THINGS which He had described at the beginning when asked, when shall THESE THINGS be. In other words the destruction of the Temple and its accompaniments..

The actual coming was not one of THESE THINGS.

 

[samuel23]

History proves that to be true, that the actual coming of Christ was not one of those things that Jesus said would happen in that generation, simply because it did not happen in that generation. Now other things that Jesus said would happen did happen in that generation, Jerusalem surrounded by armies, the temple destroyed, people in Jerusalem running for their lives to the mountains, a great time of trouble for the Jews, all those happened in that generation, but Jesus did not return in that generation.

 

[Blain]

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History proves that to be true, that the actual coming of Christ was not one of those things that Jesus said would happen in that generation,

This only applies if one believes he was speaking to that people in their time alone not if one believes the generation was not just their time but also ours simply because it did not happen in that generation.

Now other things that Jesus said would happen did happen in that generation, Jerusalem surrounded by armies, the temple destroyed, people in Jerusalem running for their lives to the mountains, a great time of trouble for the Jews, all those happened in that generation, but Jesus did not return in that generation

True but the thing about bible prophecy is that it often foreshadows of things to come.

 

[Bladerunner]

This should start a lot of discussion. Matt 24:34 this generation shall not pass until till all these things be fulfilled. Matt 23 and 24 tell us plainly from the context that Jesus was speaking of the generation that was living at the time He made that statement. So why do folks say that Jesus was speaking of a future generation? The answer to that is simple, it could be called a concession teaching because the actual teaching does not line up with what most folks consider reality. In other words, we can all see that the context points to Jesus speaking of the people living at that time, however we can also see that Jesus did not return in the sky and gather the church, so as a concession, we go against the actual context in order to make the words fit with what we know(Jesus has not returned). I take a little different position, I would rather believe that when Jesus said THIS generation that He actually meant the generation living at that time.
I would also rather believe that when Jesus said ALL, that He was only referring to what happened to Israel around 70ad, because all that Jesus said would happen to Israel in that generation did in fact happen to Israel in that generation. The actual return of Christ and the end of the age was yet in the future.

Well there have been several on here that have given you the answers several times over the past YEAR...... Yet, you keep asking the same questions. Me thinks you are trolling. Unfortunately, for those that are really having a problem with the interpretation of the Holy Bible, They see your post and fall even further away. Mat 24 and Luke 21 were telling us that Jesus was talking about the time of 70 AD but also the future. BOTH OF THEM!