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Iamlearning

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Dearest all, most of you probably know me already and know I came as a Catholic. I have been reading a lot of your posts and this has made me wonder this is indeed an heretical practice. I have seen many evidence. And also I have seen here a real community in spite of the arguments that I have never seen at a Catholic church.

First of all my parents were both Catholics and they were a real mess and I mean terrible, not get into details. It is incredible the amount of self-loathe they felt for themselves, for each other, for us our children. Then I tried to turn my husband to Catholicism, and he was better than when he was a dark heavy metal lol but he became very cold and apathetic. I think he started self-loathing too.

There is no way I succeed in life and my levels of self-loathe are peaking, increase that with OCD.

Today my mum scolded me for anything that goes through her mind, no matter if I did something wrong or not (mind it I am 37) she has been doing it all her whole life, since I was a very small child I mean 3 or 4. She abused me verbally for everything my father and brothers did to her. This has made my OCD go crazy too. Same with my in-laws, they are also Catholic and are a complete and absolute mess their level of sin is rocketing. My husband is OK because of some miraculous grace or perhaps because God wanted someone to help me survive at my side. God gave me my husband to help me spend another day.

Today in the heat of the discussion I tried something different, instead of answering back or trying to defend myself, I left her rant (she is incredibly cruel in the things she says to me) said nothing and instead I lowered my eyes and began to call the LORD to protect me, to not let her words touch me, protect me from the devil of her rage, repeat to me that LORD loves me and that I am a worthy person worthy of being loved and protected and respected.

This was a little miracle, her ranting gradually stopped and she is now almost normal (her personal level of normal at least)

As I was praying my husband showed to be more supportive to me, less cold and also calmer.

I know this is very personal and not biblical question but as Blue Ladybug told me Catholicism is poisonous and I actually see it as proof of how poisonous it can really be in my family. It has lead us to debt and self-destruction. My family is Catholic but not Christian at all let alone have any Christian virtues.

That's why I am taking the final decision (it was already running through my mind for days) to leave Catholicism as if it was a house on fire.

I want to be a real Christian and live life according to God and the Scriptures, because I have seen prayers have power, they saved me today from another OCD attack. And I wanted to be safe instead to lost to some kind of heresy.

How can I become a Christian? If I keep on being a Catholic it is going to kill me. My OCD is going crazy when I go to church, where I feel also harshly judged by priests and the congregation, with all that holier-than-thou attitude. It feels like drinking poison.

I want to leave Catholicism for good. Blue Ladybug already adviced me very kindly to stop adorating saints the Virgins and dead people and taking the holy communion, and have a personal relationship with God alone no priests as intermediaries (which is a relief) What should you advise me to do?

I really will thank you for your anwers for I am in a very forlorn, very scared state right now. Thank you all for your advice and God bless you.
 

blue_ladybug

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First of all, I want to say Congratulations. :) Thank you Lord, for having drawn this woman out of the evil catholic church and into your embrace.

I've already told you in PM some of the things you need to do, in order to become a Christian. That means ALL of it, and don't keep clinging to ANY practice of catholicism.

Stop going to the catholic church. You've already told me that they judge you there, and here in your post you say they act holier than thou. So just stop attending.

If at all possible, stop living with your mother. If you remain, satan will use her to draw you back to catholicism. Start praying and asking God to provide an opportunity for you to move.

This is all I can think of right now, because I just woke up.. lol
 

blue_ladybug

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I am so happy you've made the decision to leave catholicism, and become a Christian. You definitely deserve a rep for this post. :)


Dearest all, most of you probably know me already and know I came as a Catholic. I have been reading a lot of your posts and this has made me wonder this is indeed an heretical practice. I have seen many evidence. And also I have seen here a real community in spite of the arguments that I have never seen at a Catholic church.

First of all my parents were both Catholics and they were a real mess and I mean terrible, not get into details. It is incredible the amount of self-loathe they felt for themselves, for each other, for us our children. Then I tried to turn my husband to Catholicism, and he was better than when he was a dark heavy metal lol but he became very cold and apathetic. I think he started self-loathing too.

There is no way I succeed in life and my levels of self-loathe are peaking, increase that with OCD.

Today my mum scolded me for anything that goes through her mind, no matter if I did something wrong or not (mind it I am 37) she has been doing it all her whole life, since I was a very small child I mean 3 or 4. She abused me verbally for everything my father and brothers did to her. This has made my OCD go crazy too. Same with my in-laws, they are also Catholic and are a complete and absolute mess their level of sin is rocketing. My husband is OK because of some miraculous grace or perhaps because God wanted someone to help me survive at my side. God gave me my husband to help me spend another day.

Today in the heat of the discussion I tried something different, instead of answering back or trying to defend myself, I left her rant (she is incredibly cruel in the things she says to me) said nothing and instead I lowered my eyes and began to call the LORD to protect me, to not let her words touch me, protect me from the devil of her rage, repeat to me that LORD loves me and that I am a worthy person worthy of being loved and protected and respected.

This was a little miracle, her ranting gradually stopped and she is now almost normal (her personal level of normal at least)

As I was praying my husband showed to be more supportive to me, less cold and also calmer.

I know this is very personal and not biblical question but as Blue Ladybug told me Catholicism is poisonous and I actually see it as proof of how poisonous it can really be in my family. It has lead us to debt and self-destruction. My family is Catholic but not Christian at all let alone have any Christian virtues.

That's why I am taking the final decision (it was already running through my mind for days) to leave Catholicism as if it was a house on fire.

I want to be a real Christian and live life according to God and the Scriptures, because I have seen prayers have power, they saved me today from another OCD attack. And I wanted to be safe instead to lost to some kind of heresy.

How can I become a Christian? If I keep on being a Catholic it is going to kill me. My OCD is going crazy when I go to church, where I feel also harshly judged by priests and the congregation, with all that holier-than-thou attitude. It feels like drinking poison.

I want to leave Catholicism for good. Blue Ladybug already adviced me very kindly to stop adorating saints the Virgins and dead people and taking the holy communion, and have a personal relationship with God alone no priests as intermediaries (which is a relief) What should you advise me to do?

I really will thank you for your anwers for I am in a very forlorn, very scared state right now. Thank you all for your advice and God bless you.
 
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Although I do see, in your post, some the typical animosity that often accompanies leaving the Catholic church (or any other authoritarian group), I am excited for you. Just try to keep in mind that all those Catholics mean every bit as much to God as any Protestant, and He loves them just as much as anyone else.

Also, not everything Catholic is to be shunned.... just redirected and more clearly understood through the eyes of Jesus. The Eucharist is one of those things. The Communication of the remembrance of Jesus is not something to even consider forsaking.
 
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bluto

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Dearest all, most of you probably know me already and know I came as a Catholic. I have been reading a lot of your posts and this has made me wonder this is indeed an heretical practice. I have seen many evidence. And also I have seen here a real community in spite of the arguments that I have never seen at a Catholic church.

First of all my parents were both Catholics and they were a real mess and I mean terrible, not get into details. It is incredible the amount of self-loathe they felt for themselves, for each other, for us our children. Then I tried to turn my husband to Catholicism, and he was better than when he was a dark heavy metal lol but he became very cold and apathetic. I think he started self-loathing too.

There is no way I succeed in life and my levels of self-loathe are peaking, increase that with OCD.

Today my mum scolded me for anything that goes through her mind, no matter if I did something wrong or not (mind it I am 37) she has been doing it all her whole life, since I was a very small child I mean 3 or 4. She abused me verbally for everything my father and brothers did to her. This has made my OCD go crazy too. Same with my in-laws, they are also Catholic and are a complete and absolute mess their level of sin is rocketing. My husband is OK because of some miraculous grace or perhaps because God wanted someone to help me survive at my side. God gave me my husband to help me spend another day.

Today in the heat of the discussion I tried something different, instead of answering back or trying to defend myself, I left her rant (she is incredibly cruel in the things she says to me) said nothing and instead I lowered my eyes and began to call the LORD to protect me, to not let her words touch me, protect me from the devil of her rage, repeat to me that LORD loves me and that I am a worthy person worthy of being loved and protected and respected.

This was a little miracle, her ranting gradually stopped and she is now almost normal (her personal level of normal at least)

As I was praying my husband showed to be more supportive to me, less cold and also calmer.

I know this is very personal and not biblical question but as Blue Ladybug told me Catholicism is poisonous and I actually see it as proof of how poisonous it can really be in my family. It has lead us to debt and self-destruction. My family is Catholic but not Christian at all let alone have any Christian virtues.

That's why I am taking the final decision (it was already running through my mind for days) to leave Catholicism as if it was a house on fire.

I want to be a real Christian and live life according to God and the Scriptures, because I have seen prayers have power, they saved me today from another OCD attack. And I wanted to be safe instead to lost to some kind of heresy.

How can I become a Christian? If I keep on being a Catholic it is going to kill me. My OCD is going crazy when I go to church, where I feel also harshly judged by priests and the congregation, with all that holier-than-thou attitude. It feels like drinking poison.

I want to leave Catholicism for good. Blue Ladybug already adviced me very kindly to stop adorating saints the Virgins and dead people and taking the holy communion, and have a personal relationship with God alone no priests as intermediaries (which is a relief) What should you advise me to do?

I really will thank you for your anwers for I am in a very forlorn, very scared state right now. Thank you all for your advice and God bless you.
I think you answered your own question as to how to become a Christian. You just said, "instead I lowered my eyes and began to call the LORD to protect me" and you deemed it a miracle. Romans 10:13, "For whoever will call upon the name of the Lord will be saved." Turn every being of your soul and spirit over to Him by living for Him and getting to know Him by reading your Bible and through talking to Him (prayer which is talking to God) and you will discover how good the Lord is.

Now, please read 1 Peter 1:1,2. "In the same way, you wives, be submissive to your own husbands so that even if any of them are disobedient to the word, they may BE WON without a word by the behavior of their wives, vs2, as they OBSERVE your chaste and RESPECTFUL BEHAVIOR."

I KNOW the immediate context of these verses are to be understood in the context of a married man and wife BUT it can still be applied to your relationship to ones parents, or as in your case to your mother. What's that old saying, "Kill them with kindness." Just hang in there and the Lord will turn things around for the good because you are doing the right thing and honoring your mother like the Bible says. Plus, you have others praying for you. :eek:

IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
 

PennEd

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Dearest all, most of you probably know me already and know I came as a Catholic. I have been reading a lot of your posts and this has made me wonder this is indeed an heretical practice. I have seen many evidence. And also I have seen here a real community in spite of the arguments that I have never seen at a Catholic church.

First of all my parents were both Catholics and they were a real mess and I mean terrible, not get into details. It is incredible the amount of self-loathe they felt for themselves, for each other, for us our children. Then I tried to turn my husband to Catholicism, and he was better than when he was a dark heavy metal lol but he became very cold and apathetic. I think he started self-loathing too.

There is no way I succeed in life and my levels of self-loathe are peaking, increase that with OCD.

Today my mum scolded me for anything that goes through her mind, no matter if I did something wrong or not (mind it I am 37) she has been doing it all her whole life, since I was a very small child I mean 3 or 4. She abused me verbally for everything my father and brothers did to her. This has made my OCD go crazy too. Same with my in-laws, they are also Catholic and are a complete and absolute mess their level of sin is rocketing. My husband is OK because of some miraculous grace or perhaps because God wanted someone to help me survive at my side. God gave me my husband to help me spend another day.

Today in the heat of the discussion I tried something different, instead of answering back or trying to defend myself, I left her rant (she is incredibly cruel in the things she says to me) said nothing and instead I lowered my eyes and began to call the LORD to protect me, to not let her words touch me, protect me from the devil of her rage, repeat to me that LORD loves me and that I am a worthy person worthy of being loved and protected and respected.

This was a little miracle, her ranting gradually stopped and she is now almost normal (her personal level of normal at least)

As I was praying my husband showed to be more supportive to me, less cold and also calmer.

I know this is very personal and not biblical question but as Blue Ladybug told me Catholicism is poisonous and I actually see it as proof of how poisonous it can really be in my family. It has lead us to debt and self-destruction. My family is Catholic but not Christian at all let alone have any Christian virtues.

That's why I am taking the final decision (it was already running through my mind for days) to leave Catholicism as if it was a house on fire.

I want to be a real Christian and live life according to God and the Scriptures, because I have seen prayers have power, they saved me today from another OCD attack. And I wanted to be safe instead to lost to some kind of heresy.

How can I become a Christian? If I keep on being a Catholic it is going to kill me. My OCD is going crazy when I go to church, where I feel also harshly judged by priests and the congregation, with all that holier-than-thou attitude. It feels like drinking poison.

I want to leave Catholicism for good. Blue Ladybug already adviced me very kindly to stop adorating saints the Virgins and dead people and taking the holy communion, and have a personal relationship with God alone no priests as intermediaries (which is a relief) What should you advise me to do?

I really will thank you for your anwers for I am in a very forlorn, very scared state right now. Thank you all for your advice and God bless you.
Hey that's wonderful! Ex-catholic here as well.

A true Christian is one who has accepted The Gospel. This is the The Gospel unto Salvation.

God wrapped Himself in Human Flesh, in the Person of His Son, Jesus Christ. He was born of a virgin Woman, conceived by the Holy Spirit. He suffered, was crucified, died, to pay the price WE owe for our sin. Was buried. God the Father raised Him to life on the 3rd day, according to the Scriptures.

Confess Jesus as your Lord and Savior, believe in your Heart that He rose from the grave, and you WILL be saved.

After that the Holy Spirit will dwell in you and seal you with His Presence. If you haven't been water baptized in His Name you should. (It is debatable whether catholic infant Baptism is fine. Neither water Baptism is what saves you. It is just an outward sign of an inward change.)

After that He will work in your heart to reveal in you those things you need to stop doing AND the things you need to start doing. THIS step has nothing to do with what He did to save you. It is Him giving you the power to walk in the Spirit and not the flesh.

May God bless and keep you dear sister!
 
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Am Happy for You knowing the truth and accepting it.It is of ur heart now that you accept to change , now change your ways do as it is written in the scripture
exhibit Christ like style and and pray for the holy spirit who will teach U all thing.
look for a living church where true word of God is spoken to join for the edification of Ur spirit. God Bless
 

graceNpeace

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I hear you sister...and God hears you too!

I hear your pain and misery and desperation.
We, on these forums are far from you but God is not.
God has love and compassion for you that no human language can ever express.

Sister, His hand is outstretched toward you even now - take it!
Just pray directly to Jesus Christ - no need to use formal language, just talk to Him like you would talk to another person.
Confess your sins to Him, just tell Him that you know you are a sinner and that you understand that the death He died on the cross, and the blood that He shed, is for the forgiveness of your sins.
Ask him to forgive you your sins.
Then ask God to send His Holy Spirit to dwell within you.

God wants to be in personal relationship with you - no mediator required, no priests to get in the way - just you and God. He actually knows all about your issues, in fact He knows things about you that you do not know about yourself.
And He loves you!
He loves you and He cannot wait to fellowship with you.
Tell Him about your problems and challenges - ask Him for help - do not be shy.

Ask Him to reveal Himself to you in the way that He really is.
I presume that you do have a Bible - read it and ask God to reveal to you what it means.
My suggestion is to start in the New Testament - Matthew onwards - but don't be shy to ask God for His opinion!

While, to some degree people on this forum can help you and start discipling you this will not be a substitute for the sort of fellowship and discipling you will need.
So, the question arises: are there any Protestant churches in your part of Spain that you could approach?
Another issue would be how your family might respond if they knew you what you were doing.
I do not want to advise you to do things that might result in harm to you.

Also going forward it may be preferable to correspond through the personal messaging on this site.
I would be happy to help guide you.
Perhaps Blue Ladybug would also be happy to assist in this.

Grace and peace to you my sister
 
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jaybird88

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Dearest all, most of you probably know me already and know I came as a Catholic. I have been reading a lot of your posts and this has made me wonder this is indeed an heretical practice. I have seen many evidence. And also I have seen here a real community in spite of the arguments that I have never seen at a Catholic church.

First of all my parents were both Catholics and they were a real mess and I mean terrible, not get into details. It is incredible the amount of self-loathe they felt for themselves, for each other, for us our children. Then I tried to turn my husband to Catholicism, and he was better than when he was a dark heavy metal lol but he became very cold and apathetic. I think he started self-loathing too.

There is no way I succeed in life and my levels of self-loathe are peaking, increase that with OCD.

Today my mum scolded me for anything that goes through her mind, no matter if I did something wrong or not (mind it I am 37) she has been doing it all her whole life, since I was a very small child I mean 3 or 4. She abused me verbally for everything my father and brothers did to her. This has made my OCD go crazy too. Same with my in-laws, they are also Catholic and are a complete and absolute mess their level of sin is rocketing. My husband is OK because of some miraculous grace or perhaps because God wanted someone to help me survive at my side. God gave me my husband to help me spend another day.

Today in the heat of the discussion I tried something different, instead of answering back or trying to defend myself, I left her rant (she is incredibly cruel in the things she says to me) said nothing and instead I lowered my eyes and began to call the LORD to protect me, to not let her words touch me, protect me from the devil of her rage, repeat to me that LORD loves me and that I am a worthy person worthy of being loved and protected and respected.

This was a little miracle, her ranting gradually stopped and she is now almost normal (her personal level of normal at least)

As I was praying my husband showed to be more supportive to me, less cold and also calmer.

I know this is very personal and not biblical question but as Blue Ladybug told me Catholicism is poisonous and I actually see it as proof of how poisonous it can really be in my family. It has lead us to debt and self-destruction. My family is Catholic but not Christian at all let alone have any Christian virtues.

That's why I am taking the final decision (it was already running through my mind for days) to leave Catholicism as if it was a house on fire.

I want to be a real Christian and live life according to God and the Scriptures, because I have seen prayers have power, they saved me today from another OCD attack. And I wanted to be safe instead to lost to some kind of heresy.

How can I become a Christian? If I keep on being a Catholic it is going to kill me. My OCD is going crazy when I go to church, where I feel also harshly judged by priests and the congregation, with all that holier-than-thou attitude. It feels like drinking poison.

I want to leave Catholicism for good. Blue Ladybug already adviced me very kindly to stop adorating saints the Virgins and dead people and taking the holy communion, and have a personal relationship with God alone no priests as intermediaries (which is a relief) What should you advise me to do?

I really will thank you for your anwers for I am in a very forlorn, very scared state right now. Thank you all for your advice and God bless you.
have you ever thought of following Jesus rather than following a group? just a thought. every group is going to have all the problems that the mean ugly Catholic church is gonna have.
 

Adstar

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Dearest all, most of you probably know me already and know I came as a Catholic. I have been reading a lot of your posts and this has made me wonder this is indeed an heretical practice. I have seen many evidence. And also I have seen here a real community in spite of the arguments that I have never seen at a Catholic church.

First of all my parents were both Catholics and they were a real mess and I mean terrible, not get into details. It is incredible the amount of self-loathe they felt for themselves, for each other, for us our children. Then I tried to turn my husband to Catholicism, and he was better than when he was a dark heavy metal lol but he became very cold and apathetic. I think he started self-loathing too.

There is no way I succeed in life and my levels of self-loathe are peaking, increase that with OCD.

Today my mum scolded me for anything that goes through her mind, no matter if I did something wrong or not (mind it I am 37) she has been doing it all her whole life, since I was a very small child I mean 3 or 4. She abused me verbally for everything my father and brothers did to her. This has made my OCD go crazy too. Same with my in-laws, they are also Catholic and are a complete and absolute mess their level of sin is rocketing. My husband is OK because of some miraculous grace or perhaps because God wanted someone to help me survive at my side. God gave me my husband to help me spend another day.

Today in the heat of the discussion I tried something different, instead of answering back or trying to defend myself, I left her rant (she is incredibly cruel in the things she says to me) said nothing and instead I lowered my eyes and began to call the LORD to protect me, to not let her words touch me, protect me from the devil of her rage, repeat to me that LORD loves me and that I am a worthy person worthy of being loved and protected and respected.

This was a little miracle, her ranting gradually stopped and she is now almost normal (her personal level of normal at least)

As I was praying my husband showed to be more supportive to me, less cold and also calmer.

I know this is very personal and not biblical question but as Blue Ladybug told me Catholicism is poisonous and I actually see it as proof of how poisonous it can really be in my family. It has lead us to debt and self-destruction. My family is Catholic but not Christian at all let alone have any Christian virtues.

That's why I am taking the final decision (it was already running through my mind for days) to leave Catholicism as if it was a house on fire.

I want to be a real Christian and live life according to God and the Scriptures, because I have seen prayers have power, they saved me today from another OCD attack. And I wanted to be safe instead to lost to some kind of heresy.

How can I become a Christian? If I keep on being a Catholic it is going to kill me. My OCD is going crazy when I go to church, where I feel also harshly judged by priests and the congregation, with all that holier-than-thou attitude. It feels like drinking poison.

I want to leave Catholicism for good. Blue Ladybug already adviced me very kindly to stop adorating saints the Virgins and dead people and taking the holy communion, and have a personal relationship with God alone no priests as intermediaries (which is a relief) What should you advise me to do?

I really will thank you for your anwers for I am in a very forlorn, very scared state right now. Thank you all for your advice and God bless you.
I have been saddened by a lot of the debating that has been going on this site over the last week or so. But your post is a shining ray of hope that something good has happened on CC. :D

I have been down a similar road as you Iamlearning because i was also a catholic, born into a catholic family and i left that religion when i was in my early 20's when i read the Bible and i could not stay in such a works salvation religion any longer..

But getting out of one false religion does not mean we will end up in the truth.. A lot of people escape a snare only to soon fall down a pit.. Meaning some people escape one false religion only to end up in another cult..

Once i left catholicism i went on the all to familiar church shopping to find a true church of God.. But time and time again there was a doctrine here or a doctrine there in a denomination that just did not align with the Bible that i had read.. After a while i lost this need to have a denominational stamp on my forehead.. I decided that the Bible , The Word of God is my guide and i will be a Bible believing Christian and to never compromise the Message of Jesus for any denomination..

So my advice to you is to read the Gospels and the New testament while always praying to God as you revealed in your post asking Him to guide you into understanding the scriptures.. Don't worry if you do not get an immediate answer to the particular passage or verse you find hard to understand. Just keep reading. Just keep asking as you go along in your reading. Spend time taking to God about anything and everything that is happening in your life.. Make the LORD your best Friend and confide in Him always..

May you be greatly blessed :)
 

valiant

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I think you are wise to leave the Roman Catholic church in your circumstances :). You need to begin all over again (with your husband if possible) in a church where they proclaim the Gospel and give you good teaching.

Firstly, and most importantly, you need to make sure that you are right with God. This involves recognising your own sin and wrongdoing. Go to Him in prayer and tell Him how you see yourself openly and honestly. Recognise that God loves you and that Jesus Christ died for your sins and has taken the penalty for them in your place (John 3.16; Rm 5.8-9). Then thank Him for doing so and ask Him to come into your life and give you a 'new birth' (John 1.12-13; 3.1-6). Ask Him to be your Savior. He bore your sin in His own body on the tree (1 Peter 2.20), so that you being dead to sin, might begin to live a godly life in the power of that new birth by the Spirit. Then tell others what He has done for you, and that He is now your Savior.

Secondly with regard to your mother. Ask God to give you a love for her, and when she starts ranting and raving again, just quietly commit it to God in prayer and say nothing. Then when there is a gap in her ranting say to her with a smile, 'I love you mother.' Then pray quietly again. Do the same with other members of the family,

Thirdly I think your decision is a wise one. Your Roman Catholic church is obviously not one to which you should belong. It is giving you all the wrong signals. Seek out a church where the Gospel is preached and where you feel a sense of peace and love. It may not be the first church which you try. But when you do find it stick with it.

Then try and witness what you are doing. But wait for the right opportunity and do it gently. There will probably be an explosion, but say nothing at first. Let the explosion subside. Do not speak at the time. Later you may reply, but gently.

But at all times make sure that you spend a time each day in reading the Bible and praying. Get to know God and the Lord Jesus Christ. I would recommend that you start your Bible reading with John's Gospel, and then with the other Gospels.

But remember above all things love. You must try to do all things in love with God as your helper. God bless you..
 
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Iamlearning

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First of all, I want to say Congratulations. :) Thank you Lord, for having drawn this woman out of the evil catholic church and into your embrace.

I've already told you in PM some of the things you need to do, in order to become a Christian. That means ALL of it, and don't keep clinging to ANY practice of catholicism.

Stop going to the catholic church. You've already told me that they judge you there, and here in your post you say they act holier than thou. So just stop attending.

If at all possible, stop living with your mother. If you remain, satan will use her to draw you back to catholicism. Start praying and asking God to provide an opportunity for you to move.

This is all I can think of right now, because I just woke up.. lol
Thank you very much dear, I cannot stop living with my mother because of economic and also other reasons, but I will use my convivence with her as a means to train in my new faith. Every time she tells something gruesome to me, I will pray the Lord to protect me. It will help me gain strength. I have already told her I am not going to go to the Catholic church anymore. She couldn't care less. So it's up to me, me husband, the Scriptures and our prayer. Today for the first time, in spite of being still very very hurt for what she said to me today, I am feeling a little bit more loved by God and less self-loathing. I don't want to hate myself anymore. There is something horrible in Catholicism that makes you think you deserve less than the mud and dirt under the feet that others tread on. I am not this, I am a worthy person. A full person. A daughter of God. Thank you very much for helping me.
 
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I am so happy you've made the decision to leave catholicism, and become a Christian. You definitely deserve a rep for this post. :)
Thank you so much from the bottom of my heart :) It would surprise me that you saved my life and afterlife with all your kind interactions and advice.
 
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Although I do see, in your post, some the typical animosity that often accompanies leaving the Catholic church (or any other authoritarian group), I am excited for you. Just try to keep in mind that all those Catholics mean every bit as much to God as any Protestant, and He loves them just as much as anyone else.

Also, not everything Catholic is to be shunned.... just redirected and more clearly understood through the eyes of Jesus. The Eucharist is one of those things. The Communication of the remembrance of Jesus is not something to even consider forsaking.
Thank you Willie, you were one of the first ones to help. I am sure there are great, awesome people in the Catholic faith but I have to keep away from the false doctrines of adorating who shouldn't be adorated and interceding and all this sort of things. My parents have kept countless stamps with saints and virgins yet they indulged in sin all the same. This is what I am already referring to: telling yourself you are a holy person only because you go to church and take the Holy Communion. I highly respect that but I understand being Christian is something that has to be between you and God, not about being approved by other humans because they have a higher position at church (or money). And above all all these saints lead to nothing, only asking for God's protection in the moment of the attack, not having a picture of the Virgin in your wallet or as a keychain and then indulge in Satan's words that come through your mind you know what I mean. Christians have to fight evil for real and every day not collect stamps and wear rosaries. This didn't work at least for my family. Thank you very very much for your advice and kind words much much love
 
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Iamlearning, good news! You already are a Christian. That you see your deep need for God and want to follow him is the sign.

What you're really asking is, "What Now?"

The first step becomes much easier for ex-Catholics than most of the rest of the world, because one of the things Catholics are taught at an early age are the Ten Commandments. (You'll be interested in knowing the Catholic Ten Commandments are different than the real Ten, because they missed one intentionally. They miss the "don't make graven images" one specially so their people will pray to dead people. But, just the same what we learned as the Ten helps us when we come to the Lord.) Repent! Not penance. Repent. That means acknowledge all of your sins to the Lord, ask him to forgive you, and then ask him to help you turn from all of them. That's what repent means.

I did this using my knowledge from Catholic school and applying it in a new way. Instead of going to a priest to list my sins, I prayed to God and told him all the ones I remembered. (I was almost 16 at the time, so it took quite some time. You're older, so expect "quite some time." lol) When I had finished, (and the poor missionary stood quietly next to me, so his legs must have been tired by then), for the first time ever, I felt clean. Like God really did forgive me, minus 3 Our Fathers, 3 Hail Marys and 1 Glory be. He really really forgave me, and put all those sins onto Jesus' shoulders at that cross.

So, that's step one. You can do that now.

Step 2 is learning the Bible, because learning what that says tells you who God is and what he wants. (And I don't mean memorizing it. I mean finally opening it up and reading it.) Ask God to help you see what he wants you to see in it.

BUT, you're new to what God will have you see. (What you were taught as a Catholic isn't the real word most of the time.) So, grab paper and pencil, (or a keypad and screen, or a tablet, but I don't know tablets, so don't know what you need if you use that lol), and start with the Gospel of John. It is The Gospel. As in, it will teach you what you need to know most about God first. And as you read it, whenever you have a question -- something you don't understand -- write it down. And keep doing that while reading it. And keep doing that until you're finished reading the Gospel of John.

No idea how long your question list will be when you're done. Might be just a couple of questions or it might be a ton of questions. Either way, there is a next step.

Find the list of churches in your area. (Jehovah Witnesses and Mormans are not churches. They are cults.) Start with the first church at the top of that list, (or start with the one closest to your home) and call. Ask if someone will answer your questions. All of them. If they won't, then thank them for their time, hang up, and call the next one. And keep calling until you find someone willing to take the time to answer all your questions.

When you find that church, you found HOME. Go and get the answers to your questions. And then join it, because that is a real church that can help you learn more and more about God.

And, if you get frustrated, because frankly, most churches won't take the time to answer your questions, feel free to PM me and I'll tell you some denominations more likely to answer your questions. BUT, keep at it, and you probably don't need to ask me.

God will have himself a people who will love and worship him forever. And some of those people are right around you to join.

Welcome to the family. You already are a Christian.
 

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You are very welcome. :) Although it is not ME who saved your life, it is GOD who did that. He only used me to further His will for you. :)

In a way, I guess it's good that your mother doesn't care whether you're catholic or not. At least she won't try to pressure you into remaining one. Would she put up a fight if you tried getting rid of some of the statues in the house?


Thank you very much dear, I cannot stop living with my mother because of economic and also other reasons, but I will use my convivence with her as a means to train in my new faith. Every time she tells something gruesome to me, I will pray the Lord to protect me. It will help me gain strength. I have already told her I am not going to go to the Catholic church anymore. She couldn't care less. So it's up to me, me husband, the Scriptures and our prayer. Today for the first time, in spite of being still very very hurt for what she said to me today, I am feeling a little bit more loved by God and less self-loathing. I don't want to hate myself anymore. There is something horrible in Catholicism that makes you think you deserve less than the mud and dirt under the feet that others tread on. I am not this, I am a worthy person. A full person. A daughter of God. Thank you very much for helping me.
Thank you so much from the bottom of my heart :) It would surprise me that you saved my life and afterlife with all your kind interactions and advice.
 
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have you ever thought of following Jesus rather than following a group? just a thought. every group is going to have all the problems that the mean ugly Catholic church is gonna have.
The purpose of church is to edify and be edified. That doesn't happen on our lonesome. What happens when people avoid churches for fear of contamination is usually they invent themselves a new god.
 
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have you ever thought of following Jesus rather than following a group? just a thought. every group is going to have all the problems that the mean ugly Catholic church is gonna have.
Yes it's true but it is also true that at this point I cannot do this alone and not knowing enough about Scripture yet, with the rejection of church (where I actually am learning nothing apart from the reading the Scriptures), that's why I am looking for a Christian community to communicate with. I know things will not be ideal anywhere but at least I will learn something from people wiser than me and definitely something other than what's currently going on in the world (going out, drinking, spending money, pouting and duck-facing on Instagram and so forth)
 
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I think you answered your own question as to how to become a Christian. You just said, "instead I lowered my eyes and began to call the LORD to protect me" and you deemed it a miracle. Romans 10:13, "For whoever will call upon the name of the Lord will be saved." Turn every being of your soul and spirit over to Him by living for Him and getting to know Him by reading your Bible and through talking to Him (prayer which is talking to God) and you will discover how good the Lord is.

Now, please read 1 Peter 1:1,2. "In the same way, you wives, be submissive to your own husbands so that even if any of them are disobedient to the word, they may BE WON without a word by the behavior of their wives, vs2, as they OBSERVE your chaste and RESPECTFUL BEHAVIOR."

I KNOW the immediate context of these verses are to be understood in the context of a married man and wife BUT it can still be applied to your relationship to ones parents, or as in your case to your mother. What's that old saying, "Kill them with kindness." Just hang in there and the Lord will turn things around for the good because you are doing the right thing and honoring your mother like the Bible says. Plus, you have others praying for you. :eek:

IN GOD THE SON,
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Thank you very much this is the kind of knowledge I still lack, I need to study the Scripture more to know what to do in any crucial situations. At least I know this and also not to self-loathe as in Catholicism they would have taught me. How dare I make my mother angry. At least I know I can call the Lord and that He will answer instead of punishing me more for how loathsome I am. Thank you for your answer and your support I will do my best to keep on learning God bless you
 
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You are very welcome. :) Although it is not ME who saved your life, it is GOD who did that. He only used me to further His will for you. :)

In a way, I guess it's good that your mother doesn't care whether you're catholic or not. At least she won't try to pressure you into remaining one. Would she put up a fight if you tried getting rid of some of the statues in the house?
I don't think I can get rid of the statues, they are hers and they were expensive, but I will take them as nothing more than decoration. What I am not going to do is to trust that we need to pray to this or that saint or Virgin, I think I am strong enough to keep my promise, above all after what happened today. Ask the Lord for help, period, and then let others do their way. Much love and blessings