who did Cain get married to?

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myfathergodinheaven

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Okay in my poor opinion I would say that he married his sister or at least a very close relative. God had not put the rule out there then about incest that was later to prevent to prevent inbreeding and mutations. If He hadn't we as a race would probably not be here. And I definitely believe in a six literal day creation.
 

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Cain That goes to show you that Eve had girls as well. God sent Cain out of his presence with a wife. at that time the population had just begun, a small group. females that were born by Eve was paired off with males to populate the earth. that mark did not mean anyone would not kill him, it was a mark of vengeance that if anybody did kill him, his death would be avenged sevenfold. the females did not appear out of thin air. all this was done through the process of time. as time went by.
 

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The Bible recorded that after Cain killed his brother, and the Lord cursed him and put a mark on him so no one would kill him, that he departed and later got married. Now my question is, if Cain and Abel were the first children and Adam and Eve were God's first creation, where did Cain get the woman he got married to? Shalom!
Greetings Glozz,

This is not a difficult thing to understand. Remember that before the flood people lived upwards of 800 and 900 years old. During this time Adam and Eve were having other children and those children were having children and so on and so fourth. They did not stop having children after Cain and Abel.

Regarding this, also keep in mind that we don't know at what age Cain killed able. For example, if they were 2 or 3 hundred years old, then the other offspring of Adam and Eve would have been having children and their offspring would have been having children and so on and so on. Do you know how many children could come about within a 100 to 300 years? A great many!

Therefore, it is not great mystery that there were other women on the earth for Cain to marry.


I hope that this sheds some light on the subject.
 

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When Adam had lived 130 years, he had a son in his own likeness, in his own image; and he named him Seth.

After Seth was born, Adam lived 800 years and had other sons and daughters.

 
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The Bible recorded that after Cain killed his brother, and the Lord cursed him and put a mark on him so no one would kill him, that he departed and later got married. Now my question is, if Cain and Abel were the first children and Adam and Eve were God's first creation, where did Cain get the woman he got married to? Shalom!
Gen 3:20 And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.

It would of had to be Cain's relative,which could be his sister or not,which most likely it would not be his sister,for even though the law was not given yet,they must of had some moral rule of that not to marry the child of your direct mother,and father,and they lived to a great number of years back then,hundreds of years,so Cain could of easily married his brother,or sister's daughter,which would not be a direct child of his mother,and father.

But I do not know if it was his sister from his mother,and father,or a daughter from one of his brother,or sister's child,but it had to be a relative.
 

Magenta

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Gen 3:20 And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.

It would of had to be Cain's relative,which could be his sister or not,which most likely it would not be his sister,for even though the law was not given yet,they must of had some moral rule of that not to marry the child of your direct mother,and father,and they lived to a great number of years back then,hundreds of years,so Cain could of easily married his brother,or sister's daughter,which would not be a direct child of his mother,and father.

But I do not know if it was his sister from his mother,and father,or a daughter from one of his brother,or sister's child,but it had to be a relative.
Some would have had to have married siblings at first.
 

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The Bible recorded that after Cain killed his brother, and the Lord cursed him and put a mark on him so no one would kill him, that he departed and later got married. Now my question is, if Cain and Abel were the first children and Adam and Eve were God's first creation, where did Cain get the woman he got married to? Shalom!
It had to be a Sister! Adam and Eve had Daughters. According to the Apocryphal book of Jubilees Chapter 4 her name was Awan another Sister was Azura. This question is about as Old as the Bible itself and a favorite of skeptics.
 
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We do not know if Cain was the firstborn of Adam. He is simply the first mentioned, because of his sin. Possibly there were brothers and sisters before him
Looks like Cain was the first born, then Abel and Seth.

These scriptures show the order they were conceived. No mention of any others before Cain....


Genesis 4:1-2: "Now Adam knew Eve his wife, and she conceived and bore Cain, and said, “I have acquired a man from the Lord.” Then she bore again, this time his brother Abel.

Genesis 4:25: "And Adam knew his wife again, and she bore a son and named him Seth, “For God has appointed another seed for me instead of Abel, whom Cain killed.”


But there had to be a sister somewhere that isn't mentioned.
 
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Magenta

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So much for the eternal word of God if it has to change to fit unforeseen situations.
How was the situation regarding procreation unforeseen? Please do explain :)
 

Magenta

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But there had to be a sister somewhere that isn't mentioned.
See Genesis 5:4, already mentioned :)

After Seth was born, Adam lived 800 years and had other sons and daughters.
 

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Genesis 5 details the genealogy of Adam...

"And Adam lived one hundred and thirty years, and begot a son in his own likeness, after his image, and named him Seth. After he begot Seth, the days of Adam were eight hundred years; and he had sons and daughters. So all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years; and he died"

So after Seth it confirms Adam had sons and daughters.

Old writings that aren't inspired state they had a total of 33 sons and 23 daughters.

So Eve faithfully obeyed God's command to be fruitful and multiply (Genesis 1:28)
 
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My theory -- and, just a theory.
Abraham had two wives. Issac four. David? At least eight. Solomon? Can't ever remember if he had 1000, or merely 500. It seems the richer the man, the more wives.

Abimelech was a king. He probably had quite a few wives.

You're a married man. Where do you spend the rest of the night if you promise your wife a night with her and don't make good on that promise?

I've kind of figured these kings had to give some notice to wife-of-the-night, so she's ready and willing. So, I'm thinking he obviously had the hots for Sari, but he's going to have to put her in line for which night he can be with her. And that line did not start on that first night.
That makes sense.

Now, what would be your estimate of a time period that would have elapsed between when the king acquired Sari, and when he might have had her in his bed? I ask this for a quite important reason that Scripture tells us about in verse 17, or so.
 

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Originally Posted by valiant
We do not know if Cain was the firstborn of Adam. He is simply the first mentioned, because of his sin. Possibly there were brothers and sisters before him
Looks like Cain was the first born, then Abel and Seth.
You mean because he is mentioned first you assume it.

But the ancient records in Genesis 1-11 were probably written on stone (long before Moses and put together by him) and 4.1 on was a different record from that which we have earlier. There is evidence of this both in terms of style and because of the signs of colophons, and because they were written around covenant and sayings..

There is nothing in Cain's birth that makes out that he was the first.


These scriptures show the order they were conceived. No mention of any others before Cain....
Cain was mentioned because the covenant record was made of the covenant he had with God. There were clearly no records of others.

Genesis 4:1-2: "Now Adam knew Eve his wife, and she conceived and bore Cain, and said, “I have acquired a man from the Lord.” Then she bore again, this time his brother Abel.
An opening statement to the record. No mention of his being the firstborn. Only Cain and Abel were of interest to the writer.

Genesis 4:25: "And Adam knew his wife again, and she bore a son and named him Seth, “For God has appointed another seed for me instead of Abel, whom Cain killed.”
Seth is mentioned because he was in the place of Abel, but he was not the third. Do you think Adam lived until the two sons were grown up before he had any further children when he was told to be fruitful and multiply?

And who then did Cain marry?

But there had to be a sister somewhere that isn't mentioned.
There were probably numerous sons and daughters.
 
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That makes sense.

Now, what would be your estimate of a time period that would have elapsed between when the king acquired Sari, and when he might have had her in his bed? I ask this for a quite important reason that Scripture tells us about in verse 17, or so.
I don't quite get the customs of that time when it comes to more-than-one-wife. (I also don't get what man in his right mind would even want more than one woman? Isn't one of us quite a handful? In the Bible, every time there was more than one, all manner of problems came washing in. lol) The only part I know is usually the first mate is called "wife." All the others are usually called concubines, slaves, or servants.

My interest in multiple-wives came along with Solomon. "Wisest man ever" goes off and has a village of wives. (How wise was that? lol) How do you keep that many content? Rotate? Even if he brought one in per night, each wife only spends one night every 2-4 years with hubby. There's bound to be frustration and jealousy! Because of that, I can't see any other way but forming a schedule.

"Fairness" says make it an even schedule. ("I'm always before Joanie, but after Debbie," kind of thing.) But man has never been known to be fair, so I would think a king has his favorites. Favorites -- not favorite -- or they'd only have one wife. And since they probably did have favorites, they still didn't want to get the favorites upset without enough attention.

All we really know is he did not get around to defiling another man's wife before God warned him off.

And, yeah. I see where you're going with verse 17. Who even notices infertility in the space of one mere day? But God being omnipotent and omniscient, I could see him drying up the fertility for a year or two before this, so the king -- and his wives -- noticed something is wrong. Only to give them fertility back because the guy feared the only real God. Something like giving the effect before the cause to stop the cause. ("If you think infertility was bad, let me tell you death is imminent if you don't obey me. And, if you do obey me, fertility returns" kind of thing.)

Again, this is just a theory.

Funny thing about people. We fill in the blanks when we read a story -- whether the story is non-fiction or fiction.
 
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But the ancient records in Genesis 1-11 were probably written on stone (long before Moses and put together by him) and 4.1 on was a different record from that which we have earlier. There is evidence of this both in terms of style and because of the signs of colophons, and because they were written around covenant and sayings..
Something I figured out just a few years ago.

If the ancient records were written on stone, what became of that stone? Did Noah take it with him on the ark? Because, historically speaking, society does not let the nutjob making a ship for 100 years because there's going to be a flood keep the historic doctrines.

And where was Adam and Eve having their family? Everyone says the Garden of Eden was in the Middle East somewhere, but then the whole earth was flooded and the only ship floating on the water for 9 months was built by that nutjob who kept saying there was going to be a flood.

Ocean currents still current, even with most (or all) of the land mass below it. It's the land mass itself that dictates the currents. Nine months floating around Water World. For all we know the Garden of Eden could have been in Detroit.

I really would like to know how those records got into Moses' hands, (if the first five books really were written by Moses.) Considering Abraham was just some dude from Ur, I doubt he had the records either. And considering Moses was raised by Egyptians, it's unlikely he was cast to hold the records, or even knew the history.
 
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I don't quite get the customs of that time when it comes to more-than-one-wife. (I also don't get what man in his right mind would even want more than one woman? Isn't one of us quite a handful? In the Bible, every time there was more than one, all manner of problems came washing in. lol) The only part I know is usually the first mate is called "wife." All the others are usually called concubines, slaves, or servants.

My interest in multiple-wives came along with Solomon. "Wisest man ever" goes off and has a village of wives. (How wise was that? lol) How do you keep that many content? Rotate? Even if he brought one in per night, each wife only spends one night every 2-4 years with hubby. There's bound to be frustration and jealousy! Because of that, I can't see any other way but forming a schedule.

"Fairness" says make it an even schedule. ("I'm always before Joanie, but after Debbie," kind of thing.) But man has never been known to be fair, so I would think a king has his favorites. Favorites -- not favorite -- or they'd only have one wife. And since they probably did have favorites, they still didn't want to get the favorites upset without enough attention.

All we really know is he did not get around to defiling another man's wife before God warned him off.

And, yeah. I see where you're going with verse 17. Who even notices infertility in the space of one mere day? But God being omnipotent and omniscient, I could see him drying up the fertility for a year or two before this, so the king -- and his wives -- noticed something is wrong. Only to give them fertility back because the guy feared the only real God. Something like giving the effect before the cause to stop the cause. ("If you think infertility was bad, let me tell you death is imminent if you don't obey me. And, if you do obey me, fertility returns" kind of thing.)

Again, this is just a theory.

Funny thing about people. We fill in the blanks when we read a story -- whether the story is non-fiction or fiction.
Something I figured out just a few years ago.

If the ancient records were written on stone, what became of that stone? Did Noah take it with him on the ark? Because, historically speaking, society does not let the nutjob making a ship for 100 years because there's going to be a flood keep the historic doctrines.

And where was Adam and Eve having their family? Everyone says the Garden of Eden was in the Middle East somewhere, but then the whole earth was flooded and the only ship floating on the water for 9 months was built by that nutjob who kept saying there was going to be a flood.

Ocean currents still current, even with most (or all) of the land mass below it. It's the land mass itself that dictates the currents. Nine months floating around Water World. For all we know the Garden of Eden could have been in Detroit.

I really would like to know how those records got into Moses' hands, (if the first five books really were written by Moses.) Considering Abraham was just some dude from Ur, I doubt he had the records either. And considering Moses was raised by Egyptians, it's unlikely he was cast to hold the records, or even knew the history.
Yes, at some point we SHOULD get smart enough to realize the historical part of the Bible was meant to let us know that God got everything started, and that we somehow have survived to this day. So many people try to make Salvation hinge upon all the falderal in-between.
 
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WillieT, about how long the king had Sarai

Not that anyone asked me...but I would say the king waited at least a year based on these scriptures

Esther 2:12 ►
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Before a young woman's turn came to go in to King Xerxes, she had to complete twelve months of beauty treatments prescribed for the women, six months with oil of myrrh and six with perfumes and cosmetics.
 
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WillieT, about how long the king had Sarai

Not that anyone asked me...but I would say the king waited at least a year based on these scriptures

Esther 2:12 ►
New International Version
Before a young woman's turn came to go in to King Xerxes, she had to complete twelve months of beauty treatments prescribed for the women, six months with oil of myrrh and six with perfumes and cosmetics.
Possibly. But, was this a standing ruling for all kings in all cultures? I dunno. It didn't seem to work that way for David, with Bathsheba.