Did Jesus/God bleed for an ingrate?
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Romans 5 answers it pretty well I think:
Peace with God Through Faith
5 Therefore, since we have been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. 2 Through him we have also obtained access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and we rejoice in hope of the glory of God. 3 Not only that, but we rejoice in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces endurance, 4 and endurance produces character, and character produces hope, 5 and hope does not put us to shame, because God's love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit who has been given to us.
6 For while we were still weak, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. 7 For one will scarcely die for a righteous person—though perhaps for a good person one would dare even to die— 8 but God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. 9 Since, therefore, we have now been justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God. 10 For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, now that we are reconciled, shall we be saved by his life. 11 More than that, we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation.
Ingrates pre-salvation, joyful sons and daughters post-salvation. I don't see how anyone born again wouldn't be grateful. We give up all of who we are to follow Christ and we are saved from the well deserved judgment of God among many other promises.
Peace with God Through Faith
5 Therefore, since we have been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. 2 Through him we have also obtained access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and we rejoice in hope of the glory of God. 3 Not only that, but we rejoice in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces endurance, 4 and endurance produces character, and character produces hope, 5 and hope does not put us to shame, because God's love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit who has been given to us.
6 For while we were still weak, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. 7 For one will scarcely die for a righteous person—though perhaps for a good person one would dare even to die— 8 but God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. 9 Since, therefore, we have now been justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God. 10 For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, now that we are reconciled, shall we be saved by his life. 11 More than that, we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation.
Ingrates pre-salvation, joyful sons and daughters post-salvation. I don't see how anyone born again wouldn't be grateful. We give up all of who we are to follow Christ and we are saved from the well deserved judgment of God among many other promises.
Well, of course He did, they'll bring out the 10 lepers passage and claim all of them saved, yet only one was thankful. They all "deserve" heaven though most are unthankful.
So, heaven will be comprised of 90% unthankful, and 10% thankful.
Division in heaven; leftist ideologies and ideologists believe they will be there to continue their campaign of "fairness" and "tolerance."
This is none other than the same teachings and ideologies of WoF and their ilk, division is acceptable, anything goes, believe what you want, "we don't know anything according to Paul so no holds are barred!!!!" It is the neo tower of Babel, and those who stand on the unity of the faith and sound doctrine are to be rejected.
Just think about that, sheep.
So, heaven will be comprised of 90% unthankful, and 10% thankful.
Division in heaven; leftist ideologies and ideologists believe they will be there to continue their campaign of "fairness" and "tolerance."
This is none other than the same teachings and ideologies of WoF and their ilk, division is acceptable, anything goes, believe what you want, "we don't know anything according to Paul so no holds are barred!!!!" It is the neo tower of Babel, and those who stand on the unity of the faith and sound doctrine are to be rejected.
Just think about that, sheep.
we see, once again, that there is a great lack of Spiritual communication/understanding...
when we are growing in Christ, we literally MUST learn to leave our 'old-man-concepts, ideas
taught, world's behaviours' BEHIND.
we will never grow/learn anything new, Spiritually New, unless we do this..
even in our zeal we can err: let/allow The Holy Spirit to lead/teach/Love us...
it truly is a brand new concept that is literally 'almost' impossible to accept!
when we are growing in Christ, we literally MUST learn to leave our 'old-man-concepts, ideas
taught, world's behaviours' BEHIND.
we will never grow/learn anything new, Spiritually New, unless we do this..
even in our zeal we can err: let/allow The Holy Spirit to lead/teach/Love us...
it truly is a brand new concept that is literally 'almost' impossible to accept!
Did God shed His blood for ingrates?
Romans 5:8
But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
God shed His blood for everyone!
Romans 5:8
But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
God shed His blood for everyone!
i truly wich more christians would accept what you have written Here.....this is probably the closest thing to actually seeing what our rebellion against Gods word caused.....
The price paid for our lives was steep, Our ways caused this.....Gods ways lead to eternal Life because of this. I wish more christians would consider calling Jesus down from the cross and walking with Him out of the tomb, and honor the price He paid for Loving us.......but somehow " thats just not grace" according to so many......God bless you for this simple and so very true post
The price paid for our lives was steep, Our ways caused this.....Gods ways lead to eternal Life because of this. I wish more christians would consider calling Jesus down from the cross and walking with Him out of the tomb, and honor the price He paid for Loving us.......but somehow " thats just not grace" according to so many......God bless you for this simple and so very true post
I doubt very seriously that anyone who is not thankful towards the Lord will go to Heaven
Amen to that!
It's only hard for the carnal minded person.
Proverbs 13:15
Good understanding giveth favour: but the way of transgressors is hard.
We need to make the decision to accept God's Word and then find out what He said about the leading of the Holy Spirit... Who was sent to lead and guide us into all truth (John 16:13), and God's Word is Truth (John 17:17)
When we commit to His leading by His Word... He will start leading. Until then, you be leading not Him.
Amen to that!
It's only hard for the carnal minded person.
Proverbs 13:15
Good understanding giveth favour: but the way of transgressors is hard.
We need to make the decision to accept God's Word and then find out what He said about the leading of the Holy Spirit... Who was sent to lead and guide us into all truth (John 16:13), and God's Word is Truth (John 17:17)
When we commit to His leading by His Word... He will start leading. Until then, you be leading not Him.
Those who one Sunday said "Hosanna!!", a few days later shouted "crucify Him, crucify Him!" Their duty was to fear Him and keep His commands and they were involved in a bogus trial and killing an innocent man.
Here these ingrates had God the Son in their midst and slew Him. How ungrateful can ppl get?
Here these ingrates had God the Son in their midst and slew Him. How ungrateful can ppl get?
