How Do You Stand on the Word?

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slave

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What's the process for gaining the truth, hence, which truths? and in terms of motion, how does this apply to God's leading? Or does it?
 
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I know. And I know you have been talking about it for some time, that's why it doesn't surprise me you almost questioned me about it...its good. It sounded to me to be more of a statement wrapped in a question. Or is that not the case?
LOL I was trying to be something I'm not...Politically correct...
 

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when you ride on on a bus, train, or plane, the reason you ride is because you know it will get you to where you want to go. so you trust them to get you there, if not, you would not ride. and then you wait, because there is nothing you can do except enjoy the ride.
So, standing on the Word helps you get to where you are headed?
 
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slave

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LOL I was trying to be something I'm not...Politically correct...
If thats not what you are why be it? I respect all people as to what they really are, no matter what.
 

1ofthem

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That sounds like a dance...Haw haw
Nah...I think you're thinking about the locomotion...and the Locomotion is a train on a track of its own...lol
[video=youtube;lNNW0SPkChI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNNW0SPkChI[/video]
 
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If thats not what you are why be it? I respect all people as to what they really are, no matter what.
Well, I'm in my gentle phase... Usually I prefer to say it the way I mean it...Like.."You sound like one of those rotten Word of Faith liars Hurt your feelings? Your problem! Deal with it." LOL Well ok...Not mean but direct. Like "Are you Word of Faith? Sorry about that. Sucks to be you" LOL Now I don't know what I am......Hmmmm Not that either

OK Normally what I say is what I am....Since you don't know me...I'm a word weaver...I say it like I see it but I do try to be somewhat aware that others have feelings.
 

1ofthem

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Seriously though, I think we stand on the word of God by putting on the whole armor of God. The word is the sword, and we also need all of our armor on because we are in a spiritual warfare.

[h=1]Ephesians 6:13-17King James Version (KJV)[/h][FONT=&quot]13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:[/FONT]
 
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Nah...I think you're thinking about the locomotion...and the Locomotion is a train on a track of its own...lol
[video=youtube;lNNW0SPkChI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNNW0SPkChI[/video]
I used to love that song! Now I only love it when I hear it.
 
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Seriously though, I think we stand on the word of God by putting on the whole armor of God. The word is the sword, and we also need all of our armor on because we are in a spiritual warfare.

Ephesians 6:13-17King James Version (KJV)

13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;
15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
Our friend 'Slave' was mentioning speaking the Word too...What do you think of that? Like God spoke the world into existence. Like Jesus spoke healing and deliverance....
 
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So, are you saying that you memorize the Word, putting it into your heart, then stand gritting your teeth hoping He'll do something soon...Or do you mean something else? Please talk as though I'm really really dumb..Uh Without shouting though. LOL
no your not dumb friend, you are in a bible discussion forum seeking after more knowledge of the Word of God, as I and many others are.....that makes you a wise man :)

im not saying that we read the gospel and then have to make ourselves do something, Im saying that the things Jesus said in the gospel are spirit and life, and as we believe them they have the same creative power as when God said " Let there be light, and light began to shine"

His words create children of God because we believe in Jesus, and that includes believing His words are Gods word. thats why i quoted so much scripture there like in dueteronomy and acts 3 and 7 both reference that as being Jesus, "the One God would send with His own words in His Mouth" our place is to stand in the light of His word, we will indeed hear things that we arent living up to, but you see this is where the crucifixion and resurrection come in, that is meant to win our hearts back to God. so when we see those things that are contrary to our nature such as " turn the other cheek, and bless your enemies and do not curse them" <<<we keep those in our hearts and minds even when it shows us our lack, and because we have faith in Jesus, and keep thopse words in our minds and hearts not denying thoier truth, the words of God will take those sinful desires away, and renew our minds in His word.

Our actions are only a fruit of our heart, the hidden things within us that only God Knows and us when we reflect on them in the light of the truth of Jesus words.

matthew 15:19-20 "For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies: 20These are the things which DEFILE A MAN: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man."

how do are hearts become clean?

john 15:3-4 "Now ye are clean through the WORD WHICH I HAVE SPOKEN unto you. 4Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me."

John 15:10 "If ye KEEP MY commandments, YE SHALL ABIDE in my love; even as I HAVE KEPT MY FATHERS commandments, and ABIDE in his love."

The teachings of Jesus are what creates the heart of a child of God, they are the Words of His only begotten, remember God created the heavens and earth by speaking it forth, and it was. Jesus creates in us a heart of a child of God by speaking it forth, and it becomes, Our Faith is the only rewuirement. actions come from what Jesus makes in us, the inner things created By His word.

matthew 23:25-26 "
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean THE OUTSIDE (actions) of the cup and of the platter, but WITHIN (the heart) they are full of extortion and excess. 26Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is WITHIN the cup and platter, that the OUTSIDE of them may be clean also."

Jesus main issue with the pharisees was that the kept the scrupulous details of the mosaic Law, but in thoier Heart they were greedy, had no compassion for the poor and the " sinners" of society, the lame and blind were looked down upon, even though they kept the details of the mosaic Law, it was only an outward righteousness, a selfish righteousness. when the true interpretation of the whole Law was " Love thy neighbor as thyself" they wore thier phylacteries Long, shopwing how they kept all the laws, but had no Love in them for others, when they gave, they made a show of it, they Loved the places of honor, they made long shows of pious sounding prayers " Lord thank you that im not like the sinners" they were not clean inwardly so thier actions were as filthy rags.

this was thier issue

John 8:37 "
I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, BECAUSE MY WORD HATH NO PLACE IN YOU"

this was the issue for them because

john 6:63 ".
It is the SPIRIT THAT QUICKENETH; the flesh profiteth nothing: THE WORDS THAT I SPEAK TO YOU, they ARE SPIRIT, and they ARE LIFE."

also its why Jesus said this to them

john 8:24 "
I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM HE, ye shall die in your sins."

who?

deuteronomy 18:18-19 "
I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and WILL PUT MY WORDS IN HIS MOUTH; and HE SHALL SPEAK UNTO THEM ALL THAT I COMMAND HIM. 19And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto MY WORDS WHICH HE SHALL SPEAK in my name, I will require it of him." ( acts 3, and acts 7)

Jesus continually claimed to be the One God sent. peter says this

acts 3:22 "
For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you." continued on to v 26 "Unto you first God, having RAISED UP HIS SON JESUS, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities."

and jesus continually said " My words are not my own, they belong to the father who sent me"


His words are the key to Life, His death and resurrection are for the remission of our sins, His words circumcize our hearts, cleanse them and produce righteousness inwardly and that results in right living, right actions and God gets the Glory because it is all His doing, through His word as He always has created and made things to be. im not great at explaining things, i try to use the scripture to assist me.

ephesians 5:25-27 "...
even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; 26That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by THE WORD, 27That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish."


the word of Jesus is Life, Just as the crucifixion and resurrection is our forgiveness and justification, so the gospel is our death to sin and rebirth in the spirit

 

slave

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Well, I'm in my gentle phase... Usually I prefer to say it the way I mean it...Like.."You sound like one of those rotten Word of Faith liars Hurt your feelings? Your problem! Deal with it." LOL Well ok...Not mean but direct. Like "Are you Word of Faith? Sorry about that. Sucks to be you" LOL Now I don't know what I am......Hmmmm Not that either

OK Normally what I say is what I am....Since you don't know me...I'm a word weaver...I say it like I see it but I do try to be somewhat aware that others have feelings.
I see....well thank you for being yourself, I appreciate it.
 
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no your not dumb friend, you are in a bible discussion forum seeking after more knowledge of the Word of God, as I and many others are.....that makes you a wise man :)

im not saying that we read the gospel and then have to make ourselves do something, Im saying that the things Jesus said in the gospel are spirit and life, and as we believe them they have the same creative power as when God said " Let there be light, and light began to shine"

His words create children of God because we believe in Jesus, and that includes believing His words are Gods word. thats why i quoted so much scripture there like in dueteronomy and acts 3 and 7 both reference that as being Jesus, "the One God would send with His own words in His Mouth" our place is to stand in the light of His word, we will indeed hear things that we arent living up to, but you see this is where the crucifixion and resurrection come in, that is meant to win our hearts back to God. so when we see those things that are contrary to our nature such as " turn the other cheek, and bless your enemies and do not curse them" <<<we keep those in our hearts and minds even when it shows us our lack, and because we have faith in Jesus, and keep thopse words in our minds and hearts not denying thoier truth, the words of God will take those sinful desires away, and renew our minds in His word.

Our actions are only a fruit of our heart, the hidden things within us that only God Knows and us when we reflect on them in the light of the truth of Jesus words.

matthew 15:19-20 "For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies: 20These are the things which DEFILE A MAN: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man."

how do are hearts become clean?

john 15:3-4 "Now ye are clean through the WORD WHICH I HAVE SPOKEN unto you. 4Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me."

John 15:10 "If ye KEEP MY commandments, YE SHALL ABIDE in my love; even as I HAVE KEPT MY FATHERS commandments, and ABIDE in his love."

The teachings of Jesus are what creates the heart of a child of God, they are the Words of His only begotten, remember God created the heavens and earth by speaking it forth, and it was. Jesus creates in us a heart of a child of God by speaking it forth, and it becomes, Our Faith is the only rewuirement. actions come from what Jesus makes in us, the inner things created By His word.

matthew 23:25-26 "
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean THE OUTSIDE (actions) of the cup and of the platter, but WITHIN (the heart) they are full of extortion and excess. 26Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is WITHIN the cup and platter, that the OUTSIDE of them may be clean also."

Jesus main issue with the pharisees was that the kept the scrupulous details of the mosaic Law, but in thoier Heart they were greedy, had no compassion for the poor and the " sinners" of society, the lame and blind were looked down upon, even though they kept the details of the mosaic Law, it was only an outward righteousness, a selfish righteousness. when the true interpretation of the whole Law was " Love thy neighbor as thyself" they wore thier phylacteries Long, shopwing how they kept all the laws, but had no Love in them for others, when they gave, they made a show of it, they Loved the places of honor, they made long shows of pious sounding prayers " Lord thank you that im not like the sinners" they were not clean inwardly so thier actions were as filthy rags.

this was thier issue

John 8:37 "
I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, BECAUSE MY WORD HATH NO PLACE IN YOU"

this was the issue for them because

john 6:63 ".
It is the SPIRIT THAT QUICKENETH; the flesh profiteth nothing: THE WORDS THAT I SPEAK TO YOU, they ARE SPIRIT, and they ARE LIFE."

also its why Jesus said this to them

john 8:24 "
I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM HE, ye shall die in your sins."

who?

deuteronomy 18:18-19 "
I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and WILL PUT MY WORDS IN HIS MOUTH; and HE SHALL SPEAK UNTO THEM ALL THAT I COMMAND HIM. 19And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto MY WORDS WHICH HE SHALL SPEAK in my name, I will require it of him." ( acts 3, and acts 7)

Jesus continually claimed to be the One God sent. peter says this

acts 3:22 "
For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you." continued on to v 26 "Unto you first God, having RAISED UP HIS SON JESUS, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities."

and jesus continually said " My words are not my own, they belong to the father who sent me"


His words are the key to Life, His death and resurrection are for the remission of our sins, His words circumcize our hearts, cleanse them and produce righteousness inwardly and that results in right living, right actions and God gets the Glory because it is all His doing, through His word as He always has created and made things to be. im not great at explaining things, i try to use the scripture to assist me.

ephesians 5:25-27 "...
even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; 26That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by THE WORD, 27That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish."


the word of Jesus is Life, Just as the crucifixion and resurrection is our forgiveness and justification, so the gospel is our death to sin and rebirth in the spirit

Good stuff....And you are right too...I'm nowhere near being dumb. LOL
 
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Seriously though, I think we stand on the word of God by putting on the whole armor of God. The word is the sword, and we also need all of our armor on because we are in a spiritual warfare.

[h=1]Ephesians 6:13-17King James Version (KJV)[/h][FONT="][FONT=Arial][B]13 [/B][/FONT]Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT="]14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;[/FONT]

[FONT="][FONT=Arial][B]15 [/B][/FONT]And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT="]16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.[/FONT]

[FONT="]17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:[/FONT]
This answer the truth and motion concept I mentioned... :)
 
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no your not dumb friend, you are in a bible discussion forum seeking after more knowledge of the Word of God, as I and many others are.....that makes you a wise man :)

im not saying that we read the gospel and then have to make ourselves do something, Im saying that the things Jesus said in the gospel are spirit and life, and as we believe them they have the same creative power as when God said " Let there be light, and light began to shine"

His words create children of God because we believe in Jesus, and that includes believing His words are Gods word. thats why i quoted so much scripture there like in dueteronomy and acts 3 and 7 both reference that as being Jesus, "the One God would send with His own words in His Mouth" our place is to stand in the light of His word, we will indeed hear things that we arent living up to, but you see this is where the crucifixion and resurrection come in, that is meant to win our hearts back to God. so when we see those things that are contrary to our nature such as " turn the other cheek, and bless your enemies and do not curse them" <<<we keep those in our hearts and minds even when it shows us our lack, and because we have faith in Jesus, and keep thopse words in our minds and hearts not denying thoier truth, the words of God will take those sinful desires away, and renew our minds in His word.

Our actions are only a fruit of our heart, the hidden things within us that only God Knows and us when we reflect on them in the light of the truth of Jesus words.

matthew 15:19-20 "For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies: 20These are the things which DEFILE A MAN: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man."

how do are hearts become clean?

john 15:3-4 "Now ye are clean through the WORD WHICH I HAVE SPOKEN unto you. 4Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me."

John 15:10 "If ye KEEP MY commandments, YE SHALL ABIDE in my love; even as I HAVE KEPT MY FATHERS commandments, and ABIDE in his love."

The teachings of Jesus are what creates the heart of a child of God, they are the Words of His only begotten, remember God created the heavens and earth by speaking it forth, and it was. Jesus creates in us a heart of a child of God by speaking it forth, and it becomes, Our Faith is the only rewuirement. actions come from what Jesus makes in us, the inner things created By His word.

matthew 23:25-26 "
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean THE OUTSIDE (actions) of the cup and of the platter, but WITHIN (the heart) they are full of extortion and excess. 26Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is WITHIN the cup and platter, that the OUTSIDE of them may be clean also."

Jesus main issue with the pharisees was that the kept the scrupulous details of the mosaic Law, but in thoier Heart they were greedy, had no compassion for the poor and the " sinners" of society, the lame and blind were looked down upon, even though they kept the details of the mosaic Law, it was only an outward righteousness, a selfish righteousness. when the true interpretation of the whole Law was " Love thy neighbor as thyself" they wore thier phylacteries Long, shopwing how they kept all the laws, but had no Love in them for others, when they gave, they made a show of it, they Loved the places of honor, they made long shows of pious sounding prayers " Lord thank you that im not like the sinners" they were not clean inwardly so thier actions were as filthy rags.

this was thier issue

John 8:37 "
I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, BECAUSE MY WORD HATH NO PLACE IN YOU"

this was the issue for them because

john 6:63 ".
It is the SPIRIT THAT QUICKENETH; the flesh profiteth nothing: THE WORDS THAT I SPEAK TO YOU, they ARE SPIRIT, and they ARE LIFE."

also its why Jesus said this to them

john 8:24 "
I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM HE, ye shall die in your sins."

who?

deuteronomy 18:18-19 "
I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and WILL PUT MY WORDS IN HIS MOUTH; and HE SHALL SPEAK UNTO THEM ALL THAT I COMMAND HIM. 19And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto MY WORDS WHICH HE SHALL SPEAK in my name, I will require it of him." ( acts 3, and acts 7)

Jesus continually claimed to be the One God sent. peter says this

acts 3:22 "
For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you." continued on to v 26 "Unto you first God, having RAISED UP HIS SON JESUS, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities."

and jesus continually said " My words are not my own, they belong to the father who sent me"


His words are the key to Life, His death and resurrection are for the remission of our sins, His words circumcize our hearts, cleanse them and produce righteousness inwardly and that results in right living, right actions and God gets the Glory because it is all His doing, through His word as He always has created and made things to be. im not great at explaining things, i try to use the scripture to assist me.

ephesians 5:25-27 "...
even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; 26That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by THE WORD, 27That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish."


the word of Jesus is Life, Just as the crucifixion and resurrection is our forgiveness and justification, so the gospel is our death to sin and rebirth in the spirit

Y'all on a roll with the truths and motions.
 

1ofthem

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Our friend 'Slave' was mentioning speaking the Word too...What do you think of that? Like God spoke the world into existence. Like Jesus spoke healing and deliverance....
I'm not really sure what you mean hear, but to me God's Word is God's Word spoken or written and it won't go out or return unto him void.

[h=1]Isaiah 55:10-11King James Version (KJV)[/h][FONT=&quot]10 For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.[/FONT]
 
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I'm not really sure what you mean hear, but to me God's Word is God's Word spoken or written and it won't go out or return unto him void.

Isaiah 55:10-11King James Version (KJV)

10 For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater:
11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.
What I meant was Do you think speaking the Word would help to stand on the Word? I mean Speaking it worked for God when He created the world...It worked for Jesus when He kicked demons out of people or healed them...Jesus said that He only said what He heard the Father say...Shouldn't we do the same?
 
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Good stuff....And you are right too...I'm nowhere near being dumb. LOL
naw lol i never would have let that enter my mind friend :) anyone seeking God is wise, whether they just took thier first step, or have many footprints behind them. God bless you, thanks for the discussion
 

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It just is so strange people come up with these unbiblical phrases like "stand on the word" when they are not in the Bible.

ESV - 0 Bible results for “"stand on the word".”

HCSB - "
0 Bible results for “"stand on the word".

KJV -
0 Bible results for “"stand on the word".”

MSG
0 Bible results for “"stand on the word".”

NASB - 0 Bible results for “"stand on the word".”

NET -
0 Bible results for “"stand on the word".”

NIV -
0 Bible results for “"stand on the word".”

RSV
0 Bible results for “"stand on the word".”

Since this little phrase is not in the Bible, and the OP does not seem to define it, perhaps we need to go back and try and figure out what this non-biblical phrase means??
 
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Good stuff....And you are right too...I'm nowhere near being dumb. LOL
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that's debatable:), but someone has taught you how to be a great 'mocker'...:eek:
 
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I was always taught that the phrase stand on the word means to believe in God's word - the bible.