12 Teachings that are Poison!

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Here's an interesting article... includes a little something for everyone...



12 Teachings that are Poison!


I have heard it said "balance is the key to life." I agree with that statement, as I have found that any truth taken to the extreme (that ignores other aspects related to its subject) is unbalanced and can be harmful. This is also why Paul the apostle said that he teaches "the whole counsel of God" (Acts 20:27), which involves a full presentation of truth.

The following are some of the hyper-teachings that have been harmful to the body of Christ, in my opinion:

1. Hyper-Grace

Grace is typically defined as unmerited favor given to humans by God. This is a satisfactory definition albeit not comprehensive. Since Scripture teaches us that we are saved by grace and not by works (Eph. 2:8-9), those in the hyper-grace camp believe and teach that once a person is saved, they can live any way they want and still achieve the benefits of salvation. They need a full dose of the book of James to counter-balance their hyper-grace!

2. Hyper-Holiness

Those in this camp put an overemphasis on outward holiness to the point that they believe a person has to dress a certain way in order to have right standing with God. (For example, women should not cut their hair or wear pants, makeup or jewelry.) Their emphasis on outward conformity to strict standards makes them more like Pharisees than Christians. They need to meditate on Matthew 23 to understand God's view that inward holiness is a greater priority than outward holiness.

3. Hyper-Calvinist

This camp emphasizes God's sovereignty to the point that it bypasses what Scripture teaches regarding human responsibility. For example, during Charles Finney's ministry, he had to constantly debate hyper-Calvinists who taught that it was wrong for preachers to induce sinners to repent, make decisions for Christ or do anything that aided in the process of salvation. Of course, the majority of Calvinists have not taken this approach, as we study the ministries of former heroes of the faith such as George Whitefield, Jonathan Edwards, Charles Spurgeon and other Calvinists who were mightily used of God to bring thousands of sinners to Christ by commanding repentance and obedience to the gospel.

4. Hyper-Arminianism


Those in this camp overemphasize human responsibility to the point that they nullify God's sovereignty. Extreme Arminianism, such as "open theism," even goes as far as teaching that God doesn't know everything in the future and that God makes His decisions after He sees how humans respond to Him. They have reduced predestination (Eph. 1:4; Rom. 8:29-30) to "post-destination" and have created a god that responds to time and space rather than the One who controls it.

The difference between predestination and human responsibility is a Scriptural paradox that will never be fully understood this side of heaven. I always say that Scriptures that emphasize predestination are taken from God's transcendent view of human reality (from heaven's perspective), and Scriptures that emphasize human responsibility are from an immanent view of human reality (from the earth's perspective).

5. Hyper-Love

Those in this camp emphasize the love of God to the exclusion of the holiness and righteousness of God. (Psalm 89:14 says, "Righteousness and justice are the foundation of Your throne.") Whenever we focus on one attribute of God to the exclusion of the other attributes of God, we become unbalanced and present a wrong view of God's character and nature. Those in this camp say that God is love (1 John 4:7) and ignore the Scriptures that deal with God's wrath, along with the laws of sowing and reaping due to sin (Eph. 5:1-6; Gal. 6:7-8).

Even the Apostle John, who wrote "God is love", also said in the same epistle that those who practice sin are lawless and of the devil because sin is lawlessness (1 John 4:1-10).

Love Wins author Rob Bell went so far as to teach that all men would eventually be saved because of God's love. Read Revelation 20:11-15 to balance that view.

6. Hyper-Faith

Those in this camp primarily preach on faith for healing and deliverance, and set believers up to think there will always be victory (Actually, God always causes us to triumph IN CHRIST - 2 Corinthians 2:14... guessed they missed this verse eh?) with very little suffering or pain if they exert faith in God. This neglects the fact that Jesus not only healed the sick but also spoke about the need for His followers to walk in humility and meekness, to take up their cross and lose their lives in order to find them (Matt. 5:1-10 and Mark 8:34-35).

7. Hyper-Prosperity

Similar to the faith camp, this circle of preachers primarily emphasizes Scriptures that deal with personal blessing and financial prosperity. Although there is some truth in their teachings, this overemphasis produces believers who seek the blessing more than the Blesser! It can also produce false expectations of people who sow their money into a ministry expecting a hundredfold return, which rarely if ever happens on a purely financial level. I believe in biblical prosperity but not in a "rights-centered" gospel that ignores our biblical stewardship to produce wealth primarily to confirm His covenant in the earth (Deut. 8:18).

8. Hyper-High Church

Those in this camp emphasize institutional church traditions and protocols that produce a professional class of clergy who have to walk around all day in clerical garb. They insist that the church be set up as a hierarchical organization replete with titles and even a throne for the head bishop! Those in this camp are losing most of their young people and have to reread the New Testament to understand the way of Jesus and the Apostles. Somehow I cannot picture Jesus, the original apostles or Paul wearing clerical robes and collars every Sunday and focusing on hierarchical titles and titular elevations.

To counterbalance this approach, Philippians 2:1-12 comes to mind, as well as Matthew 23, which is a judgment against the religious system set up by those who claim to follow God.

9. Hyper-Kingdom

Those in this camp preach as though the fullness of the kingdom has already come and there are no more biblical prophecies left to be fulfilled. (Some call them "full preterists.") Many don't even believe things could get worse on the earth and don't believe in the second bodily return of Christ. Scripture teaches a paradoxical view that the kingdom is already here (Col. 1:12-13) but not yet fully manifest (Romans 16:20).

10. Hyper-Dispensational


Those in this camp believe they have to passively wait for the rapture and avoid political and social reform, because trying to transform culture is like "re-arranging the chairs on the Titanic." This is based on a faulty reading of scriptures such as Daniel 9:24-27.

Although I do not believe every nation and all people will be saved before the second bodily return of Christ, I do believe there will be some sort of strong kingdom influence in the nations (especially "sheep nations"; see Matthew 25:32) before the Second Coming. All of the major biblical covenants and themes point to a victorious church and victorious gospel before the end of human history (read Gen. 1:28; 12:1-3; 22:17-18; Psalm 110:2; Acts 3:21).

11. Hyper-Charismatic


Those in this camp focus more on the gifts of the Spirit than on the Word of God, character development and inward holiness. They elevate their spiritual experiences above the truth of Scripture.

12. Hyper-Rational

Those in this camp are afraid of any spiritual (subjective) experiences or manifestations. They depend upon their mind to the neglect of their spirit. They believe God only speaks through His written word. They rationalize their faith and have little or no real prayer life or substantive fellowship with God. They split hairs over biblical doctrines and in some ways worship the Bible more than the God of the Bible. (Jesus said it is possible to study the Scriptures without coming to God; read John 5:39-40).

In conclusion, whenever we focus on a truth to the exclusion of other aspects of truth, we end up in error.

May God help us to understand and preach the whole counsel of God, so that we can feed the flock of God and equip them to fulfill their divine purpose

source - These 12 Teachings Are Poison to the Body of Christ — Charisma News
 
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JGIG

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I didn't see Hyper-Critical on that list . . .

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tanakh

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reading a list like that makes me want to Hyper -ventilate
 
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ok i didnt actually read your post yet...


but can i assume that if i put hyper before any other word


it makes it poison?
 

stonesoffire

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Well...as long as all the camps can love each other...
 

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Cool thread. Sadly, there is a lot of truth there. I have to say, I think there's more to election than what's said at the end of #4 (John 6:44, Matthew 11:25-27).
 
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ok i didnt actually read your post yet...


but can i assume that if i put hyper before any other word


it makes it poison?
eh

now that i read your post


i agree with it for the most part
 
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I also don't see "Hyper wrong" in their assumptions either.

I read the article and read the "comments" at the bottom too and here is one that speaks to this article.

CS Berean5 days ago
Counter Points

1. Hyper-grace: I have never met or read anything from anyone who teaches or believes a Born-Again Christian can live any way they want and still achieve the benefits(?) of salvation. A person is either for God or against Him. They either have Him living inside them or they don't. The are either a good tree producing good fruit and the works that accompany salvation or they aren't. They are either fully known by Jesus or they were NEVER known by Him.
This is hyper-nonsense brought to you by those who believe that salvation is by works and not of grace lest God should boast.

2. Hyper-Holiness
Holiness is more about what Jesus has already done and less about what the Born-Again Christian does for Him. God has already made them Holy.

3. Hyper-Calvinist
Calvinism is an interesting man-made doctrine. Finney was a Pelagian, so I wouldn’t use him as a source for anything but heresy.

4. Hyper-Arminianism
Another interesting man-made doctrine.

5. Hyper-Love
God IS love so it can’t be hyper enough. Human free will is a result of His hyper love so we can choose to accept it or reject it.

6. Hyper-Faith
Without faith it is impossible to please God.

7. Hyper-Prosperity
The prosperity gospel in any form is sheer nonsense.

8. Hyper-High Church
What? A Born-Again Christian can chose to worship God anyway and anywhere they want to.

9. Hyper-Kingdom
The Kingdom of God already came at Pentecost and is about righteousness and joy in the Holy Spirit who permanently dwells within the person who becomes Born-Again and promised to never leave of forsake them.

10. Hyper-Dispensational
NO one has to 'wait' for the day they will be taken out of this world. The Born-Again Christian is already a citizen of Heaven and is simply a tourist in this world. THE Church is already victorious and nothing can stand against it and the message of the Gospel to love one another.

11. Hyper-Charismatic
This is not unusual for those who are immature in the Word. Maturity comes when they seek the Giver more than the gifts and study His written Word, the Bible.

12. Hyper-Rational
The only reliable source to hear God’s voice and know His will, is in the Written Word of God. Anything a Born-Again Christian ‘hears’ must conform to it or they are in error. If a person wants to audibly hear His voice they should read their Bible out loud.





 
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Galatians 1:6-12
I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 8But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.10For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.11But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. 12For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.



[video=youtube;p9RI4RpBJyA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9RI4RpBJyA[/video]
 
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Did not even get past point one which is a lie.....no one states that or pushes that....another straw man argument by those who peddle the false gospel of works for salvation!!!!! nothing but lies
 
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NoNameMcgee

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hahaha dcon

love your zeal

but if someone was living their own way

that IS the same as wickedness
 
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Oh yes .....Charisma News the purveyors of HYPER sensationalized headlines and non news stories that are poison to the body of Christ
 
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I didn't see Hyper-Critical on that list . . .
Yeah, people that don't like to hear what God actually said in His Word... typically accuse others of being crtical



but can i assume that if i put hyper before any other word it makes it poison?
Only for the hyper-griper





Well...as long as all the camps can love each other...
Yeah, it's all about loving each other... never mind many are walking after another jesus and a different gospel as long as everybody loves each other.

That's one of the on ramps to the one world religion!




now that i read your post i agree with it for the most part
I didn't write it... at the bottom there is a link to the source.

I thought it's bhe funny to see people from all these camps jump on to defend their hyper-community


I have never met or read anything from anyone who teaches or believes a Born-Again Christian can live any way they want and still achieve the benefits of salvation.
The person that said that must not get out much... the fact is many preachers are claiming ALL penalty for sin has been removed and you know what happens when you tell people that... they get soft on sin and start indulging which is why we have the great falling away and the love of many has grown cold.



no one states that or pushes that....another straw man argument by those who peddle the false gospel of works for salvation!!!!! nothing but lies
You obviously don't know what's going on much... must be the sheltered life




non news stories that are poison to the body of Christ
Alrighty then... pointing out false teaching is "non-news"... people that are involved in fasle teaching in some way would say stuff like this.

So what's your camp?
 

Adstar

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Here's an interesting article... includes a little something for everyone...



12 Teachings that are Poison!


I have heard it said "balance is the key to life." I agree with that statement, as I have found that any truth taken to the extreme (that ignores other aspects related to its subject) is unbalanced and can be harmful. This is also why Paul the apostle said that he teaches "the whole counsel of God" (Acts 20:27), which involves a full presentation of truth.

The following are some of the hyper-teachings that have been harmful to the body of Christ, in my opinion:

1. Hyper-Grace

Grace is typically defined as unmerited favor given to humans by God. This is a satisfactory definition albeit not comprehensive. Since Scripture teaches us that we are saved by grace and not by works (Eph. 2:8-9), those in the hyper-grace camp believe and teach that once a person is saved, they can live any way they want and still achieve the benefits of salvation. They need a full dose of the book of James to counter-balance their hyper-grace!

2. Hyper-Holiness

Those in this camp put an overemphasis on outward holiness to the point that they believe a person has to dress a certain way in order to have right standing with God. (For example, women should not cut their hair or wear pants, makeup or jewelry.) Their emphasis on outward conformity to strict standards makes them more like Pharisees than Christians. They need to meditate on Matthew 23 to understand God's view that inward holiness is a greater priority than outward holiness.

3. Hyper-Calvinist

This camp emphasizes God's sovereignty to the point that it bypasses what Scripture teaches regarding human responsibility. For example, during Charles Finney's ministry, he had to constantly debate hyper-Calvinists who taught that it was wrong for preachers to induce sinners to repent, make decisions for Christ or do anything that aided in the process of salvation. Of course, the majority of Calvinists have not taken this approach, as we study the ministries of former heroes of the faith such as George Whitefield, Jonathan Edwards, Charles Spurgeon and other Calvinists who were mightily used of God to bring thousands of sinners to Christ by commanding repentance and obedience to the gospel.

4. Hyper-Arminianism


Those in this camp overemphasize human responsibility to the point that they nullify God's sovereignty. Extreme Arminianism, such as "open theism," even goes as far as teaching that God doesn't know everything in the future and that God makes His decisions after He sees how humans respond to Him. They have reduced predestination (Eph. 1:4; Rom. 8:29-30) to "post-destination" and have created a god that responds to time and space rather than the One who controls it.

The difference between predestination and human responsibility is a Scriptural paradox that will never be fully understood this side of heaven. I always say that Scriptures that emphasize predestination are taken from God's transcendent view of human reality (from heaven's perspective), and Scriptures that emphasize human responsibility are from an immanent view of human reality (from the earth's perspective).

5. Hyper-Love

Those in this camp emphasize the love of God to the exclusion of the holiness and righteousness of God. (Psalm 89:14 says, "Righteousness and justice are the foundation of Your throne.") Whenever we focus on one attribute of God to the exclusion of the other attributes of God, we become unbalanced and present a wrong view of God's character and nature. Those in this camp say that God is love (1 John 4:7) and ignore the Scriptures that deal with God's wrath, along with the laws of sowing and reaping due to sin (Eph. 5:1-6; Gal. 6:7-8).

Even the Apostle John, who wrote "God is love", also said in the same epistle that those who practice sin are lawless and of the devil because sin is lawlessness (1 John 4:1-10).

Love Wins author Rob Bell went so far as to teach that all men would eventually be saved because of God's love. Read Revelation 20:11-15 to balance that view.

6. Hyper-Faith

Those in this camp primarily preach on faith for healing and deliverance, and set believers up to think there will always be victory (Actually, God always causes us to triumph IN CHRIST - 2 Corinthians 2:14... guessed they missed this verse eh?) with very little suffering or pain if they exert faith in God. This neglects the fact that Jesus not only healed the sick but also spoke about the need for His followers to walk in humility and meekness, to take up their cross and lose their lives in order to find them (Matt. 5:1-10 and Mark 8:34-35).

7. Hyper-Prosperity

Similar to the faith camp, this circle of preachers primarily emphasizes Scriptures that deal with personal blessing and financial prosperity. Although there is some truth in their teachings, this overemphasis produces believers who seek the blessing more than the Blesser! It can also produce false expectations of people who sow their money into a ministry expecting a hundredfold return, which rarely if ever happens on a purely financial level. I believe in biblical prosperity but not in a "rights-centered" gospel that ignores our biblical stewardship to produce wealth primarily to confirm His covenant in the earth (Deut. 8:18).

8. Hyper-High Church

Those in this camp emphasize institutional church traditions and protocols that produce a professional class of clergy who have to walk around all day in clerical garb. They insist that the church be set up as a hierarchical organization replete with titles and even a throne for the head bishop! Those in this camp are losing most of their young people and have to reread the New Testament to understand the way of Jesus and the Apostles. Somehow I cannot picture Jesus, the original apostles or Paul wearing clerical robes and collars every Sunday and focusing on hierarchical titles and titular elevations.

To counterbalance this approach, Philippians 2:1-12 comes to mind, as well as Matthew 23, which is a judgment against the religious system set up by those who claim to follow God.

9. Hyper-Kingdom

Those in this camp preach as though the fullness of the kingdom has already come and there are no more biblical prophecies left to be fulfilled. (Some call them "full preterists.") Many don't even believe things could get worse on the earth and don't believe in the second bodily return of Christ. Scripture teaches a paradoxical view that the kingdom is already here (Col. 1:12-13) but not yet fully manifest (Romans 16:20).

10. Hyper-Dispensational


Those in this camp believe they have to passively wait for the rapture and avoid political and social reform, because trying to transform culture is like "re-arranging the chairs on the Titanic." This is based on a faulty reading of scriptures such as Daniel 9:24-27.

Although I do not believe every nation and all people will be saved before the second bodily return of Christ, I do believe there will be some sort of strong kingdom influence in the nations (especially "sheep nations"; see Matthew 25:32) before the Second Coming. All of the major biblical covenants and themes point to a victorious church and victorious gospel before the end of human history (read Gen. 1:28; 12:1-3; 22:17-18; Psalm 110:2; Acts 3:21).

11. Hyper-Charismatic


Those in this camp focus more on the gifts of the Spirit than on the Word of God, character development and inward holiness. They elevate their spiritual experiences above the truth of Scripture.

12. Hyper-Rational

Those in this camp are afraid of any spiritual (subjective) experiences or manifestations. They depend upon their mind to the neglect of their spirit. They believe God only speaks through His written word. They rationalize their faith and have little or no real prayer life or substantive fellowship with God. They split hairs over biblical doctrines and in some ways worship the Bible more than the God of the Bible. (Jesus said it is possible to study the Scriptures without coming to God; read John 5:39-40).

In conclusion, whenever we focus on a truth to the exclusion of other aspects of truth, we end up in error.

May God help us to understand and preach the whole counsel of God, so that we can feed the flock of God and equip them to fulfill their divine purpose

source - These 12 Teachings Are Poison to the Body of Christ — Charisma News
Good post.. I agree mostly with it all.. The only point i had serious trouble with was the following one::::

10. Hyper-Dispensational

Those in this camp believe they have to passively wait for the rapture and avoid political and social reform, because trying to transform culture is like "re-arranging the chairs on the Titanic." This is based on a faulty reading of scriptures such as Daniel 9:24-27.

Although I do not believe every nation and all people will be saved before the second bodily return of Christ, I do believe there will be some sort of strong kingdom influence in the nations (especially "sheep nations"; see Matthew 25:32) before the Second Coming. All of the major biblical covenants and themes point to a victorious church and victorious gospel before the end of human history (read Gen. 1:28; 12:1-3; 22:17-18; Psalm 110:2; Acts 3:21).
I do not believe we are here to take over nation states ( kingdoms of this world) and establish the Kingdom of Jesus on earth to present to Him as a gift upon the day of His return.. That's the doctrine of Dominionism which seems to be what you are proposing and is the only counter point to what you call Hyper - Dispensational ...

Now i believe we are called to give the message of God , the Gospel to all peoples but not to take over the "'Titanic" by establishing governments that enforce Gods laws at the end of a policeman's gun with prisons for people who disbelieve Jesus.. I believe people who are going to be saved are people who personally believe Jesus because they agree with His teachings and genuinely trust 100% in His Atonement for their forgiveness and salvation.. Not because the Law of the Land is you have to believe and accept these things or else the authority of the state will have you thrown into prison because the state power in now a Christian controlled theocracy where disbelief is punished..

So i do not believe in the extreme of passivity of not doing anything.. In regard to preaching the Word or doing good works.. But i do very much object to anyone who wants to grab a gun and launch a revolution to take over the government and then to enforce Christianity at the end of a gun.. Not only is that taking part in rebellion against the will of God but it just does not work.. You cannot force anyone to be a Christian.. Because being a Christian is a personal response to the Message of God.. It can never be a response to worldly state power enforcement..

The Book of revelation makes it clear that in the times just before the return of Jesus that there will be a great falling away from the Faith and the love of many will grow cold because violence will abound.. So there will not be a great rise in Christianity in the end times.. If fact the opposite will be true.. Christians will be as rare as hens teeth and will be hunted down and beheaded for their faith in Jesus.. Talk of a great revival and Christianity taking over whole nations during the end times is just wishful thinking turned into a doctrine for itchy ears..