mark of the beast

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hi all!!!!!!!!!! to all of you who believe revelation is still yet to come what you think the mark of the beast is? rfid chip sunday worship or something else?
 

Marano

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I think it's a chip of some sort, some people believe otherwise though, somewhere in the lines of people accepting the worldly system.
 
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yes Marano could be either one or both...... definately has something to do with yielding obedience to the beast
 

RedeemedGift

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I'm not one to speculate, but what matters is that you have to reject Christ outright to take it, because you've sealed your fate in the lake of fire by taking it.
 
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ezekiel 9:3-4 " And the glory of the God of Israel was gone up from the cherub, whereupon he was, to the threshold of the house. And he called to the man clothed with linen, which had the writer's inkhorn by his side; 4And the LORD said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof"

v9-11 "Then said he unto me, The iniquity of the house of Israel and Judah is exceeding great, and the land is full of blood, and the city full of perverseness: for they say, The LORD hath forsaken the earth, and the LORD seeth not. 10And as for me also, mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity, but I will recompense their way upon their head.11And, behold, the man clothed with linen, which had the inkhorn by his side, reported the matter, saying, I have done as thou hast commanded me."


revelation 7:2-4 "
And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was givento hurt the earthand the sea, 3Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads. 4And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel."

revelation14:1 "
And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads."

revelation 13:16-17 "
And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. "


everything God does, satan Makes a counterfit, God marks His name on His people, satan does the same in thier foreheads or minds. just a thought to add
 

Gabriel2020

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It looks like you will have two antichrist,the first beast is the fore-runner, setting things up for the second beast, the antichrist himself.this one will cause everyone to receive the mark, and the ones that will receive it are the ones that are against christianity.. the believers will be slaughtered , because they will not take the mark. That is why I said that the Roman Government is the beast,because they slaughtered the christians, shedding innocent blood during the earlier persecution ., and shedding innocent blood is an abomination to God. the abomination of desolation. headed for destruction.
 
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It will be a dreadful frightening time.

I believe those that take the mark will say "we did the right thing. Look what happened to those Jesus freaks that refused the mark"
 
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hi all!!!!!!!!!! to all of you who believe revelation is still yet to come what you think the mark of the beast is? rfid chip sunday worship or something else?
I believe it will be a microchip implanted under the skin with a hypodermic needle,and will be used as a tracking device,GPS,for humans,so they will know everyone's location on earth.

The mark of the beast has to do with technology,to cause the world to operate smoother,find lost people,and to cut down on crime.

It will be put in the right hand or forehead.Be used for identification of the person.Be used for the one world economic system,for no person may buy or sell without the mark.

All information about the person will be put on the chip,and can be accessed when their right hand or forehead is scanned.Their identification,their finances,their medical records,etc.

The beast's agenda is there is no personal God to help mankind,but mankind's technology,and devices,can achieve peace on earth,and with all things on the chip things will be smoother,and faster,and people tracked by way of Satellite which they will know everybody's location on earth,and if a crime happens they will know who was in the area,and how close to the crime scene they were,which will cause people to be afraid to commit a crime,for they will be found out,and they do not want to get rid of the chip,for then they cannot buy or sell anything.

Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

It does not take a whole lot of wisdom to understand 666 as the number of the beast if it were that on their right hand or forehead,and also the Bible says,count the number of the beast,for it is the number of a man.

The number of the beast is the number of a man,a certain man,the man of sin,the beast,the antichrist,the son of perdition,the little horn.

The man of sin,the beast,believes in no personal God,and does not honor the God of his fathers,but in his estate he will honor the God of forces,or the power of nature as his God,and be in to the occult,witchcraft,and spiritual evolution through nature.

The occult believes in the power of numbers,and grouping numbers together,and timing numbers together,thinking it will give even more power than the basic numbers.

6 is the number of a man,so the man of sin attributed the number 666 to himself,a triple 6,believing it will give him more power to accomplish his goal,and succeeding in establishing his kingdom,and more power through nature.

Six hundred,threescore,and six-666,here is wisdom,let he that has understanding count the number of the beast.

chi xi stigma
khee xee stig'-ma
The 22nd, 14th and an obsolete letter (G4742 as a cross) of the Greek alphabet (intermediate between the 5th and 6th), used as numbers; denoting respectively 600, 60 and 6; 666 as a numeral: - six hundred threescore and six.

stigma
stig'-mah
From a primary word στίζω stizō (to “stick”, that is, prick); a mark incised or punched (for recognition of ownership), that is, (figuratively) scar of service: - mark.

Mark

charagma
khar'-ag-mah
From the same as G5482; a scratch or etching, that is, stamp (as a badge of servitude), or sculptured figure (statue): - graven, mark.

charax
khar'-ax
From “charasso” (to sharpen to a point; akin to G1125 through the idea of scratching).
 

birdie

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"And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name."

Buying and selling is Bible lingo for the sending forth of the gospel: "Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and withoutprice." When someone receives the gospel they are bought by what the Lord paid on the cross. When they are unsaved they have been sold into the slavery of sin: "Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright."

Rev 13 is talking about a time when the congregations of the church age are overrun by the spirit of error, when those in the congregations are not allowed to preach without having been marked by the wrong spirit. The true believers who have the true gospel are all rejected in that arena. Just as 'buying and selling' is Bible lingo (parable language) for something different than literal buying and selling in a store, so the idea of a mark is not meaning a literal mark. True believers are said to have been sealed in their foreheads, meaning that they have been given the mind of Christ, his spirit, not a physical literal mark on the forehead. Similarly, those in the false congregations have the spirit of their master, not a literal physical mark.
 
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It looks like you will have two antichrist,the first beast is the fore-runner, setting things up for the second beast, the antichrist himself.this one will cause everyone to receive the mark, and the ones that will receive it are the ones that are against christianity.. the believers will be slaughtered , because they will not take the mark. That is why I said that the Roman Government is the beast,because they slaughtered the christians, shedding innocent blood during the earlier persecution ., and shedding innocent blood is an abomination to God. the abomination of desolation. headed for destruction.
Or Islam, what happened in the Roman persecutions under Nero, and the following emperors for nearly 350 years, could be a similitude of what's happening now days given that just last year Fox News and several other credible news sources reported 90,000 Christian martyrs around the world. And Islamic jihadists are the most powerful driving force behind it. Also there's been a mosque built on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem since the 7th century, that has several inscriptions stating God certainly has no Son" it's also forbidden to take a bible on to the mound. Seems pretty anti Christ to me
 

OneFaith

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hi all!!!!!!!!!! to all of you who believe revelation is still yet to come what you think the mark of the beast is? rfid chip sunday worship or something else?
The mark of the beast is symbolic, it is spiritual. Being on their foreheads means their way of thinking matches Satan's way of thinking. Being on their right hand means that not only are these deeds that follow that thinking, but that they are labeled justified as being the righteous thing to do.

Having said that, however, it is possible for this to take on physical form, even though those who act like this already have the mark of the beast spiritually. Just like when God writes His law on His people's foreheads and on their hearts- it is not physically written, but spiritually.

For example, let's say there's a gang. (I'm not promoting gangs lol, it's just an example). Someone in the gang lays down the rules that define their gang, and both old and new members adhere to these rules- that is spiritual. But two other gangs form. In order to be a gang, their defining aspects have to differ from the others. So they create a physical symbol- a certain tattoo. Now a member can use that for identification. But, they were genuinely a member of that gang before the physical symbol was created.

Likewise, whether or not there is ever a physical mark of the beast, those who seek dishonest gain already have it, if they don't have the Holy Spirit. And now we get into what is covered by grace- which is a whole other topic.

And another topic is when will Christ return? He could come before a physical chip/mark is common-place. We don't know. But the mark of the beast is already in effect- spiritually- which is the only way that counts in God's eyes.
 
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its simply the stigma of sin, those in rebellion and disobedience to the law of the Spirit "ie" the wilful sons of perdition.....
 
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its simply the stigma of sin, those in rebellion and disobedience to the law of the Spirit "ie" the wilful sons of perdition.....
thats much more what i see as well, the marking of the mind, Gd marks us with Hos gospel in our minds, and satan as he has from eden, marks us with His Lie
 
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The saved are sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise which is the down payment of our eternal inheritance....to me the mark is the final moment when God forces all men and women to make a choice...Yes I understand the mark is of the beast and his system..yet it seems to be the finality of humanitie's chance at choice.....another interesting fact is that ALL who will not receive the LOVE OF THE TRUTH will be deluded into accepting the mark that they ALL MIGHT BE DAMNED (judged) whatever it is, it is also tied to the ability to buy, sell or get gain which tells me it is tied to some sort of financial system.....all I know is this...

a. I trust Jesus and his faith and
b. NO WAY IN HELL WILL I TAKE IT

The great apostasy is tied in with the man of sin being revealed in 2nd Thessalonians....Paul said the body presence of Christ, that is to say our gathering together unto Christ WILL NOT TAKE PLACE UNTIL THE MAN OF SIN IS REVEALED AND THE APO-HYSTAMIE takes place.....so.....chew on that for a bit!!!!
 

Gabriel2020

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The mark will be will be either his own mark, or his name, or the number of the beast. there will not be just one ensignia. these marks will be physically administered through the world systems of government all over the world. no chip. everybody will not have scanners to determine whose who. . the merchants and vendors will not sell to you without the mark, and you will not be able to buy from them without the mark... This my friends is merely a trade mark like the ones you see on big companies around the world,. they all have trade marks, and they sell to vendors and merchants.
 

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hi all!!!!!!!!!! to all of you who believe revelation is still yet to come what you think the mark of the beast is? rfid chip sunday worship or something else?
I believe it will be some kind of device that will be injected into the hand or forehead and will be needed for a person to be able to buy or sell anything...

It is not sunday service ..
 
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what you think the mark of the beast is? rfid chip sunday worship or something else?
Funny pajama bottoms... unles you are wearing them, you cannot buy or sell.
 

tanakh

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In the Bible the forehead represents Thoughts and the right hand Actions. In Revelation the mark is a Satanic version of the seal God places on the elect.
In 2 Chronicles Solomon is seen as a figure for the Antichrist in so far as his Idolatry is concerned he was also an extremely rich man. It is no coincidence that this verse is found in " Chronicles 9:13 ...

Now the weight of Gold that came to Solomon in one year
was six hundred and sixty six talents of Gold.

A large part of Chronicles is about material wealth The number
represents a man like Solomon not his actual name
A clue in Revelation is ''Here is Wisdom'' the very thing
Solomon was noted for!. He started off in a perfect relationship
with God and ended up as an Idol worshiper.
 

Johnny_B

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Ezekiel 9 the mark is for those that mourn the abomination in the Temple, Revelation the mark is for those that worship the abomination in the Temple.
 
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its simply the stigma of sin, those in rebellion and disobedience to the law of the Spirit "ie" the wilful sons of perdition.....
can you tell me some more????? as i said in my first post i think it has something to do with disobedience as well because it says in rev14 those who didnt take the mark were those who kept the commandments of God and witness of Jesus.......... is there biblical evidence that its this stigma of sin because charagma means a literal thing like branding a cow........ but it could be figurative of course its interesting to ponder these things what else could i do with my time????