Why did the Earth become formless and void? Or did it?

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Genesis 1 King James Version (KJV)
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. [SUP]2 [/SUP]And the earth was without form, and void; Gen. 1:1-2

Jeremiah 4:23-26 King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]23 [/SUP]I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light.
[SUP]24 [/SUP]I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly.
[SUP]25 [/SUP]I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled.
[SUP]26 [/SUP]I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the Lord, and by his fierce anger.

 

Chris1975

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Finis Jennings Dake (Dake bible) has a few reasons he believes it to be so. May be worth your while to look into this. But interesting. He talks about the "world" which then was which was destroyed by water (so pre-Adam, and a flood pre Noah). I don't necessarily endorse his viewpoints though. I think too much can be read into this and it could lead to faulty theology.

I more like the fact that in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. As to when this was, all that the bible says is that it was in the beginning.

We do know that thereafter there were 6 physical days of creation (as opposed to periods of time) as evidenced by the following scriptures Gen 1v5; 1v8; 1v13; 1v19; 1v23; 1v31. But we do know that the Lord began working on the earth when it was already in existence (covered by water and without form and void). So how long the earth existed in this state before the 7 day creation event we do not know from scripture.

Now for the Spiritual matters:
- Man is made of the earth (dust).
- The Earth was without form and void (Man is found in a lost state wandering this planet)
- God said let there be light (Jesus is that Light to man - John 1v4-9) JUSTIFICATION
- God begins to create, form and fix (Man goes through the process of SANCTIFICATION)
- On the seventh day God rests (Man enters God's sabbath Rest, Salvation, Hebrews 4v1-8 GLORIFICATION)

Be blessed
 

stonesoffire

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I think that the first age was the time of the rebellion of Lucifer and his 1/3 of the angels. A lot happened to the earth and is seen in various scriptures in the OT.

Genesis 1:2 begins the recreation.
 

Johnny_B

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Finis Jennings Dake (Dake bible) has a few reasons he believes it to be so. May be worth your while to look into this. But interesting. He talks about the "world" which then was which was destroyed by water (so pre-Adam, and a flood pre Noah). I don't necessarily endorse his viewpoints though. I think too much can be read into this and it could lead to faulty theology.

I more like the fact that in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. As to when this was, all that the bible says is that it was in the beginning.

We do know that thereafter there were 6 physical days of creation (as opposed to periods of time) as evidenced by the following scriptures Gen 1v5; 1v8; 1v13; 1v19; 1v23; 1v31. But we do know that the Lord began working on the earth when it was already in existence (covered by water and without form and void). So how long the earth existed in this state before the 7 day creation event we do not know from scripture.

Now for the Spiritual matters:
- Man is made of the earth (dust).
- The Earth was without form and void (Man is found in a lost state wandering this planet)
- God said let there be light (Jesus is that Light to man - John 1v4-9) JUSTIFICATION
- God begins to create, form and fix (Man goes through the process of SANCTIFICATION)
- On the seventh day God rests (Man enters God's sabbath Rest, Salvation, Hebrews 4v1-8 GLORIFICATION)

Be blessed
​Take is a heretic, he teaches that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit all have body, soul and spirit.

http://www.equip.org/article/dakes-dangerous-doctrine/
 

Roughsoul1991

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Because thats how God intended it. No way to know why. Bible dont specifically say and neither does anything on earth tell us why. We have evidence of the flood, ice age, droughts. But not anything pointing to why it was formless.

My personal opinion is God created a blank canvas preparing to shape, mold and paint his planned creation.
 

Desertsrose

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In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. Genesis begins by telling us that the earth was formless and void and darkness was over the surface of the deep. So when God created the earth, He started with a formless void.

He had to begin somewhere, right? The Spirit hovers
over the waters and God begins to speak the world into existence. I find it
fascinating; we get to read about how the world came to be. God could have left that out, but we see what's going on right from the beginning. :)

Jeremiah is a lament over the destruction of Jerusalem, not the days of creation.
 
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Huckleberry

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Jeremiah 4:23-26, when read in context with the whole chapter, are a foretelling
by the prophet of the impending destruction of Judah by the Babylonian armies.

Zero-zilch-nada to do with Genesis chapter one.

Context, people!
 
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O my, in Genesis the word EARTH meant, the dry land, therefore the earth(dry land) was formless and void, there was no dry land, and the Spirit of God moved over the face of the waters. All it is saying here is that the planet was completely covered with water, the dry land had not been formed yet.
 

Zmouth

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Why did the Earth become formless and void?
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And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the
face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

Genesis 1:2

The earth was still a sphere, it was covered under the frozen waters that covered the entire face of the earth (ground). The statement without form isn't indicative of having no shape, it was in my opinion a reference to the fact that there was a lack of surface features.

The term void was a reference to the lack of any living substance present on the earth. As written in Genesis 7:4, "... and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth."

Frozen Waters: Job 38:30
Earth submerged under water: Genesis 1:9
The forming of mountains: Proverbs 8:25
Being without form: Isaiah 53:2
 

trofimus

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First, it did not "became" in the meaning that there was some life and order before.

The right translation is "was", in the meaning of the initial state before the next steps in creation.

Second, formless and void is not the right translation, either.

The right translation is "the land was unfurnished and unseen", because continents were not formed, yet.

And why was not the dry land visible and prepared for life from the beginning? You can watch some documentary how our planet developed, it took time (much of time) to have what we have today.
 

lastofall

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It is good and necessary to learn not to think above that which is written to avoid exaggeration and over-estimation such as here: God's Word never says anything about the earth "becoming" formless and void, but exactly and only that it was. We must bow under God's Word, and not suppose that we can rise above it; such is foolishness.
 
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Genesis 1 King James Version (KJV)
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. [SUP]2 [/SUP]And the earth was without form, and void; Gen. 1:1-2
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Heaven - helium
Earth - hydrogen

Electrolysis
 

valiant

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Genesis 1 King James Version (KJV)
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. [SUP]2 [/SUP]And the earth was without form, and void; Gen. 1:1-2


God created it shapeless and empty that He might then give it shape and content,