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Who are the people that are mentioned as being part of the end times?and what are their specific roles?

I ask because im still trying to figure out the thoughts of organized religion and seeing as how it could be the end times maybe some clarification of scripture as it pertains to the current state of the world may help.

Thanks for your time
 
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NoNameMcgee

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what people?

the 144000 of the 12 tribes of isreal?
 
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gog and magog?

the dragons?


lol

i have theories

but to be honest

id much rather not share about how it relates to the modern world in fear of being a false prophet

and recieving greater condemnation


veeery interesting question though

and im going to be checkin up on what people suggest
 
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Yonah

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See Luke 21. then do a topical word study on the word rendered this, in verse 32, then compare other text in Matt 24, in its historical as well as biblical context, this in conjunction with , what is revealed in the OT prophets about the end times and those who would be part of the closing chapters in world history are all discussed in some detail, however this requires diligent search and study into biblical text relating to this subject.
The wisest course of action is prayer for wisdom, instruction, and revelation from the Holy Spirit, do this with child like trust and a willing heart to accept what is revealed, knowing he knows our limitations and our ability to receive things dealing with eternity.
The almighty chooses to reveal through His word what we need for character development as well as teaching and instruction, and how we are to put into practice the principles taught in biblical text, the primary purpose for all learning in these matters is the restoration of man to his Creator, the focus, first and foremost should be our Savior (Matt. 6:33) trust Him , he knows when and how much to reveal and to whom.
 
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acts 2;17And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
 
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2 Timothy 3:1-5 - This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. (Read More...)


Mark 13:32 - But of that day and [that] hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.


Matthew 24:7 - For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.


Luke 21:11 - And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.


Matthew 24:1-51 - And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to [him] for to shew him the buildings of the temple. (Read More...)


Joel 2:28-32 - And it shall come to pass afterward, [that] I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: (Read More...)


1 Timothy 4:1 - Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;


Matthew 24:6 - And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all [these things] must come to pass, but the end is not yet.


Revelation 13:16-17 - And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: (Read More...)


2 Timothy 3:1-4 - This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. (Read More...)


Luke 21:25 - And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;


Luke 21:36 - Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.


1 Corinthians 6:9-10 - Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, (Read More...)


Revelation 3:3 - Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.


Daniel 12:4 - But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, [even] to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.


2 Timothy 3:1-17 - This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. (Read More...)


Matthew 24:21-22 - For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. (Read More...)


Matthew 24:36 - But of that day and hour knoweth no [man], no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.


2 Peter 3:3-4 - Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
 
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[h=3]Matthew 24:10-12 “And then many will fall away and betray one another and hate one another. And many false prophets will arise and lead many astray. And because lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold.”[/h]
 
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[h=3]Second Timothy 3:1-5 “But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty. For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people.”[/h]
 
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[h=3]Matthew 24:21-22 “For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, and never will be. And if those days had not been cut short, no human being would be saved. But for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short.”[/h]
 
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[h=3]Jude 1:18-19 “In the last time there will be scoffers, following their own ungodly passions. It is these who cause divisions, worldly people, devoid of the Spirit.”[/h]
 
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Matthew 24:33 ...'So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.'
 
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Matthew 24:37 ...'But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.' Luke 17:28-30 ...'Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.'
 
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2 Timothy 4:3-4 ...'For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.'
 
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Matthew 24:14 ...'And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.'
 
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Matthew 24:21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, and never will betalking about the endless terrorist attacks on christian faithfuls all over the world the persecution of christians is at an alarming rate one that has not been recorded in any other genenration


 
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Matthew 24:21For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, and never will betalking about the endless terrorist attacks on christian faithfuls all over the world the persecution of christians is at an alarming rate one that has not been recorded in any other genenration


 
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Who are the people that are mentioned as being part of the end times?and what are their specific roles?

I ask because im still trying to figure out the thoughts of organized religion and seeing as how it could be the end times maybe some clarification of scripture as it pertains to the current state of the world may help.

Thanks for your time
Pro 30:11 There is a generation that curseth their father, and doth not bless their mother.
Pro 30:12 There is a generation that are pure in their own eyes, and yet is not washed from their filthiness.
Pro 30:13 There is a generation, O how lofty are their eyes! and their eyelids are lifted up.
Pro 30:14 There is a generation, whose teeth are as swords, and their jaw teeth as knives, to devour the poor from off the earth, and the needy from among men.

The last generation before Jesus takes over the world.Children disobedient to parents.Highly selfish,highly arrogant,and be aggressive towards each other,and will be so lustful for money,and material things,that they will not care about the poor and needy,which the business person in America deals with their customers like this.That even though it is the people that made them rich by doing business with them,they raise their prices,lower the quantity,and lessen the quality,and sometimes they do it by two,at the same time.Come on,rip us off in one category at at time,and not 2,and some might dare to do it all 3,but it is highly unlikely,for their greedy butts do not want to appear too bad,but believe me it is coming that they will get you in that 3rd category,for they will keep rotating the 3 categories on a timely basis,to rip,and jip the dickens out of you,all the while saying they care about the customer,but laughing with their elite friends saying,we really do not care about the consumer.That is how they reward the people that did business with them for the time they have been operating.And the general atttiude of the people that everybody is trying to get all they can with little regard for anybody else,and Jesus said,since iniquity shall abound,the love of many shall wax cold,with the attitude,people basically care about themselves with little regard for anybody else,so you do not care about me,I do not care about you.

We are at the end time,the last generation,and the counterculture movement in the 1960's did much damage,but it was bound to happen at some point,for America already put forth an operation that was inevitable that it would produce the attitude that it does,for it cater to the lusts of people,which causes hatefulness.

Rev 3:14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;
Rev 3:15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
Rev 3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
Rev 3:17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
Rev 3:18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
Rev 3:19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

The last Church age that will be very popular at the end time,which we see this tremendously in American society,the prosperity Gospel where people believe God blesses with material,and monetary gain,for personal use other than needs,but Gid said withdraw yourself from them.

But despite all this hypocrisy that is enough to give someone a mental breakdown,and physical pain,and discomfort,to those who hate the hypocrisy,but I joke,it is the new age movement,and their interpretation of the Bible based on spiritual evolution,that will be the culprit of the falling away first that will occur in the world,but the hypocrisy based on the lusts of people in worldliness does much damage to cause them to embrace the new age movement,for they are getting caught up in the flesh,and God not working among them like He would like to keep them strong against deception.

Which you hear so many people that have such a relaxed viewpoint of the Bible,that they want to accept people not right with God,as though they are right with God,which the Bible said at the last generation,they will be pure in their own eyes not washed from their filthiness.

We are at the end time,and the position of many people that claim Christ is not right,and at the majority position concerning now,but the new age movement will seal the fate of many hypocrites,and will be the standard Christianity in the future,also the standard all religions in the future,but of course their interpretation of the Bible,Islam,and Judaism,is not what is really said in those religions.
 

Blain

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You know the other day I was searching youtube for a video on revelation and came across one that appeared to be what I was looking for, however it was not it was a video about people called light workers. Apparently there are ten attributes and if you have some of these very common attributes you are a light worker one of the 144000 and are destined to save the world.
Mainly it was a feel good video trying to make people feel special so they would donate money.

I suppose light workers is a good term to call such people who would serve in the tribulation but is it the 144000?
Ever since I became a Christian even before I knew what the rapture was I had a very deep and powerful desire to serve and protect in the tribulation I don't know why but it was only when I became saved and I had a deep love for God and for all others that this desire appeared in me.

I have even had dreams and visions that honestly I am always scared to talk about because honestly it sounds kind of silly but I think for the sake of the discussion I should share this one at least. I have seen the tribulation several times the ground was so drenched in blood and human remains that there was nowhere you could not walk without being covered in it all and the smell of the blood and rotting body remains and organs was everywhere you went but there was also demons roaming the place killing and slaughtering people like it was the best and most fun time in the world.

I remember seeing a women and her young daughter and a demon rushed at them when suddenly I stood in front of the blow protecting them, the intensity in my eyes was beyond profound it was like a raging burning fire of the deepest love and protection for God's children even seeing my eyes in the dream I was overwhelmed by the brute force of that fire in them and the demon was absolutely horrified and began screaming in absolute terror as if it was God himself who was staring back at it through my eyes and I woke up suddenly still in total shock from the powerful fire I felt in those eyes.

I realize how silly this sounds and I have not been able to find any scripture to support this dream so I tend to keep it to myself but for some reason I felt I had to share it in this thread today. I often times have pondered about this dream, That Blain I saw in it was interesting I didn't recognize myself and yet I did it was like I was me but at the same wasn't.
 

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Sound like trouble, it'll come to pass, count on it. they always do, no matter how long . most of the time the limit is seven years.
 

Blain

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Sound like trouble, it'll come to pass, count on it. they always do, no matter how long . most of the time the limit is seven years.
What is going to come pass? You don't mean my dream do you? I haven't found any biblical evidence for it so I am weary to believe it