Benefits of Speaking, Praying, and Singing in Tongues
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***Speaking in Tongues/Spiritual Warfare*** I will focus on speaking in tongues as a form of spiritual warfare at this time, but all the gifts of the Spirit are for battle***One of the Church's identifies is that of an Army***the Lord is recognized in Scriptures as the Lord of Host, a military term used more than any other title for God***to build up the Army of God; that's me and you; we must be built up, and praying in tongues builds up our spirits so we are strong for battle***the Spirit makes intercession for the saints according to the will of God, so when we pray in tongues we bring the needs of all the "soldiers" before Him***March forward in strength today whether it is by praying in English, praying in tongues, the Word of God, the Shield of Faith; and above all Love...
Because you are placing too much emphasis on it that those who do not know the basic "foundation" can't even see the basic "foundation"
we're really not here to serve ourselves but to serve others
what is the purpose of preaching tongues to those who don't even have their feet on THE FOUNDATION
FIRST?
we're really not here to serve ourselves but to serve others
what is the purpose of preaching tongues to those who don't even have their feet on THE FOUNDATION
FIRST?
Two very important points I think can be made.
A part form the word of God no personal experience is authoritative over what is the Word of God.
One’s personal experience does not change for or against “the Gifts of the Holy “no matter how good or how bad the experience is.
The word of God provides enough within the context of chapters 12, 13, 14 for 1 Corinthians and the book of Acts to help each one in discerning the gifts being used by a person or in an church setting is or is not of God.
No denomination, or human reasoning, or personal experience changes that.
If you say the Gifts of the Holy Spirit are not for today and tongues is babble OR GIBBERISH based on your own human reasoning or understanding that is error.
Nowhere does it say in the word of God the gifts of the Holy Spirit are not for today because the Bible was completed. Nor does your bad experience OR GOOD ONE authenticate the Gifts. The word of God does and the action in line with Gods word.
In chapter’s 12, 13, 14 provide many key things to help one who is seeking the gifts of the Holy Spirit. I think I would like to high light some.
Chapter 12:
:1Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant.
If the gifts were to be done away with, why teach them to the church of Corinthians?
:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.
This verse tell us as Paul teaches under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit “I give you understanding” which is The Spirit gave to me this understanding so now I give it to you.
:4 Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.
The NOW in verse 4 is to mean as I have given understand to you in verse 3 , let us move onto the subject of Gifts of the Holy Spirit . Which they are not for today so I will use two more chapter to say that. Oops sorry that not what was said.
:5 And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord.
:28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.
:31 But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.
Chapter 12 provides some very good understanding that these are Gifts for the Holy Spirit, they are many different kinds, and they are for the Body of Christ past, present, and future.
Chapter 13
:1 If I speak in the tongues[fn] of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal.
This is the more excellent way : which is the gifts of the Holy Spirit are to be used in LOVE.
:2 If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing.
Notice that even the more excellent gift of prophecy is nothing without love.
:3 If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast,[fn] but do not have love, I gain nothing.
Notice even chapter 13 say to those who give to the poor without love you are nothing
:13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.
Love is the motivation in which the gifts are to be used and even with those works of giving to the poor etc… do them without love it means nothing.
Chapter 14
:1 Follow after love, and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that ye may prophesy.
Or the gifts follow the actions of love which produce a godly desire to want the gift and prophesy is what I want you to do too or also.
:2 For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.
Human reasoning or the lack of understanding of what the language is saying is Irrelevant when one is speaking in tongues .
:4 He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church.
Both gifts do good.
:5 I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying.
The greater spoken is in the effectiveness for the whole body not that tongues is not a good gift The Holy Spirit is the one still giving the gifts. As the latter statement “except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying”. Prophecy and tongues & interpretation both edify .
:12 Even so ye, forasmuch as ye are zealous of spiritual gifts, seek that ye may excel to the edifying of the church.
Is love still the motivation and reason for the gift you are using? What is the end result? It should be Edification, comfort, and exhortation .
:20 Brethren, be not children in understanding: howbeit in malice be ye children, but in understanding be men.
:36 What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?
This gift was not for you as to boast but to bless others
:37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.
What thing? The understanding of the gifts of the Holy Spirit all of them And WHO THEY ARE FOR and how they are to be used.
:39 Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues.
:40 Let all things be done decently and in order.
Nothing any of the chapters say the gifts of the Holy Spirit are not for today or have gone away. Nothing in the three chapter suggest human experience replaces the Word of God.
Nothing in the Greek or Hebrew translations within context to 1cor chp 12, 13, 14 say tongues /unknown tongues is babble or gibberish. That is ignorance and immaturity and one should leave them alone. One who says you have to speak in tongues to be saved is in error and unlearned. This issues one has with the Gifts of the Holy Spirit which tongues is a gift and attacks and makes profane comments should have more respect when speaking about any gift given by the Holy Spirit.
A part form the word of God no personal experience is authoritative over what is the Word of God.
One’s personal experience does not change for or against “the Gifts of the Holy “no matter how good or how bad the experience is.
The word of God provides enough within the context of chapters 12, 13, 14 for 1 Corinthians and the book of Acts to help each one in discerning the gifts being used by a person or in an church setting is or is not of God.
No denomination, or human reasoning, or personal experience changes that.
If you say the Gifts of the Holy Spirit are not for today and tongues is babble OR GIBBERISH based on your own human reasoning or understanding that is error.
Nowhere does it say in the word of God the gifts of the Holy Spirit are not for today because the Bible was completed. Nor does your bad experience OR GOOD ONE authenticate the Gifts. The word of God does and the action in line with Gods word.
In chapter’s 12, 13, 14 provide many key things to help one who is seeking the gifts of the Holy Spirit. I think I would like to high light some.
Chapter 12:
:1Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant.
If the gifts were to be done away with, why teach them to the church of Corinthians?
:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.
This verse tell us as Paul teaches under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit “I give you understanding” which is The Spirit gave to me this understanding so now I give it to you.
:4 Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.
The NOW in verse 4 is to mean as I have given understand to you in verse 3 , let us move onto the subject of Gifts of the Holy Spirit . Which they are not for today so I will use two more chapter to say that. Oops sorry that not what was said.
:5 And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord.
:28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.
:31 But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.
Chapter 12 provides some very good understanding that these are Gifts for the Holy Spirit, they are many different kinds, and they are for the Body of Christ past, present, and future.
Chapter 13
:1 If I speak in the tongues[fn] of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal.
This is the more excellent way : which is the gifts of the Holy Spirit are to be used in LOVE.
:2 If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing.
Notice that even the more excellent gift of prophecy is nothing without love.
:3 If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast,[fn] but do not have love, I gain nothing.
Notice even chapter 13 say to those who give to the poor without love you are nothing
:13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.
Love is the motivation in which the gifts are to be used and even with those works of giving to the poor etc… do them without love it means nothing.
Chapter 14
:1 Follow after love, and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that ye may prophesy.
Or the gifts follow the actions of love which produce a godly desire to want the gift and prophesy is what I want you to do too or also.
:2 For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.
Human reasoning or the lack of understanding of what the language is saying is Irrelevant when one is speaking in tongues .
:4 He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church.
Both gifts do good.
:5 I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying.
The greater spoken is in the effectiveness for the whole body not that tongues is not a good gift The Holy Spirit is the one still giving the gifts. As the latter statement “except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying”. Prophecy and tongues & interpretation both edify .
:12 Even so ye, forasmuch as ye are zealous of spiritual gifts, seek that ye may excel to the edifying of the church.
Is love still the motivation and reason for the gift you are using? What is the end result? It should be Edification, comfort, and exhortation .
:20 Brethren, be not children in understanding: howbeit in malice be ye children, but in understanding be men.
:36 What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?
This gift was not for you as to boast but to bless others
:37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.
What thing? The understanding of the gifts of the Holy Spirit all of them And WHO THEY ARE FOR and how they are to be used.
:39 Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues.
:40 Let all things be done decently and in order.
Nothing any of the chapters say the gifts of the Holy Spirit are not for today or have gone away. Nothing in the three chapter suggest human experience replaces the Word of God.
Nothing in the Greek or Hebrew translations within context to 1cor chp 12, 13, 14 say tongues /unknown tongues is babble or gibberish. That is ignorance and immaturity and one should leave them alone. One who says you have to speak in tongues to be saved is in error and unlearned. This issues one has with the Gifts of the Holy Spirit which tongues is a gift and attacks and makes profane comments should have more respect when speaking about any gift given by the Holy Spirit.
You should use another version like the KJV.
As it is, you guys are opposing yourselves because we are not hearing you guys speak in English when you claim to be using tongues.
Acts 2:[SUP]5 [/SUP]And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. [SUP]6 [/SUP]Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans?
[SUP]8 [/SUP]And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia,
[SUP]10 [/SUP]Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes,
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.
That is about these Jews from other nations recognizing that these local Jews speak Galileans, and yet they were hearing the ocals speak in their native tongue.
As it is, you guys are opposing yourselves because we are not hearing you guys speak in English when you claim to be using tongues.
Acts 2:[SUP]5 [/SUP]And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. [SUP]6 [/SUP]Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans?
[SUP]8 [/SUP]And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia,
[SUP]10 [/SUP]Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes,
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.
That is about these Jews from other nations recognizing that these local Jews speak Galileans, and yet they were hearing the ocals speak in their native tongue.
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If I am reading this correctly I have to disagree based on the historical context of the Corinthian church at this time and how Paul was instructing them. Paul was dealing with esthetic utterances in the assembly.
Church at Corinth had many problems because of the nature of Corinth, the temple prostitutes used ecstatic speech and this was coming into the congregation.
Corinth was a busy place with many languages and dialects.
Paul was trying to set them straight in his letters, a lot of what he write is a mild rebuke.
In the Bible “glossa” never means a prayer language for self edification, and it never means unintelligible gibberish. Paul is talking plain and simply about language.
Tongues are not given for the believers edification (1 Cor. 14: 22)
Paul says tongue speaking does not profit the Church (verse 6)
If people are speaking in tongues, and others do not know what they are saying, how does that benefit them (verse 14)
Paul also says that there must be an interpreter (verse 27)
Paul is clearly no proponent of any kind of “speech that is not intelligible” (1 Corinthians 14:9)
There is no example in the Scripture where a gift of the Holy Spirit is given for a personal benefit or personal edification.
A gift is for the service of the Church.
Therefore, the view that tongue speaking represents a special anointing, a second blessing is not in the scripture.
On a side note "tongues" has been studied many times over by linguistics professors.
The findings have been consistent.
Language is an innate ability, every known language on this earth has organization and linguistical patterns this has been shown over and over again when languages have been studied.
The innate ability of language was designed by God, anything that is going to be a higher form of what we have (the language of angels) should show even greater qualities of our language structures not less.
If one is going to be reasonable, a private unknown language from a spiritual realm should be of higher linguistic patterns, far more complex and intricate rather than lower, all studies so far have shown tongues (glossa) to be much, much lower and basically unintelligible linguistically compared to any languages spoken on the earth.
Church at Corinth had many problems because of the nature of Corinth, the temple prostitutes used ecstatic speech and this was coming into the congregation.
Corinth was a busy place with many languages and dialects.
Paul was trying to set them straight in his letters, a lot of what he write is a mild rebuke.
In the Bible “glossa” never means a prayer language for self edification, and it never means unintelligible gibberish. Paul is talking plain and simply about language.
Tongues are not given for the believers edification (1 Cor. 14: 22)
Paul says tongue speaking does not profit the Church (verse 6)
If people are speaking in tongues, and others do not know what they are saying, how does that benefit them (verse 14)
Paul also says that there must be an interpreter (verse 27)
Paul is clearly no proponent of any kind of “speech that is not intelligible” (1 Corinthians 14:9)
There is no example in the Scripture where a gift of the Holy Spirit is given for a personal benefit or personal edification.
A gift is for the service of the Church.
Therefore, the view that tongue speaking represents a special anointing, a second blessing is not in the scripture.
On a side note "tongues" has been studied many times over by linguistics professors.
The findings have been consistent.
Language is an innate ability, every known language on this earth has organization and linguistical patterns this has been shown over and over again when languages have been studied.
The innate ability of language was designed by God, anything that is going to be a higher form of what we have (the language of angels) should show even greater qualities of our language structures not less.
If one is going to be reasonable, a private unknown language from a spiritual realm should be of higher linguistic patterns, far more complex and intricate rather than lower, all studies so far have shown tongues (glossa) to be much, much lower and basically unintelligible linguistically compared to any languages spoken on the earth.
Wow!! Well said.
The phenomenon of supernatural speaking in tongues is well documented in scripture. With the exception of 1st Corinthians 13:8 there are no examples of its ending but lets put that to the side.
The existence of the modern day miraculous is not nor can not be an issue simply of biblical debate. Claims of abilities or events of the supernatural are either real or bogus, they cannot be both. Either the person has the ability or gift to speak in unknown languages or interpret them or not. If the person making such claims can proof such abilities, God should be praised. But if the opposite is true that person must be held accountable for their actions. Claims of supernatural events coming from God are never to be ignored. If allowed to go unchallenged the Holy Spirit is mocked as well as the church in the eyes of unbelievers.
To praise or acknowledge claims of physical supernatural acts of the Holy Spirit without proof is counterproductive to the cause of Christ.
The phenomenon of supernatural speaking in tongues is well documented in scripture. With the exception of 1st Corinthians 13:8 there are no examples of its ending but lets put that to the side.
The existence of the modern day miraculous is not nor can not be an issue simply of biblical debate. Claims of abilities or events of the supernatural are either real or bogus, they cannot be both. Either the person has the ability or gift to speak in unknown languages or interpret them or not. If the person making such claims can proof such abilities, God should be praised. But if the opposite is true that person must be held accountable for their actions. Claims of supernatural events coming from God are never to be ignored. If allowed to go unchallenged the Holy Spirit is mocked as well as the church in the eyes of unbelievers.
To praise or acknowledge claims of physical supernatural acts of the Holy Spirit without proof is counterproductive to the cause of Christ.
***I encourage those of you who speak in tongues and have let this gift become dormant to stir it up in your life***much prayer in English and tongues is important to prepare for the Coming Revival***when it is time to Rain we are to ask for Rain***When we pray in English---"Lord send the Rain"---when we are praying in tongues at times the Holy Spirit is asking also for Rain...
I would like to add to Chapter 14 the verses which you passed over: 6-11:
6Now, brethren, if I come unto you speaking with tongues, what shall I profit you, except I shall speak to you either by revelation, or by knowledge, or by prophesying, or by doctrine?
(what's the point if I speak in tongues if I don't speak in addition to this tongue the revelation, the knowledge, or something that can be understood from the tongue, which if it can not be understood is unintelligible, like an unknown sound)
7And even things without life giving sound, whether pipe or harp, except they give a distinction in the sounds, how shall it be known what is piped or harped?8For if the trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself to the battle? 9So likewise ye, except ye utter by the tongue words easy to be understood, how shall it be known what is spoken? for ye shall speak into the air. 10There are, it may be, so many kinds of voices in the world, and none of them is without signification.11Therefore if I know not the meaning of the voice, I shall be unto him that speaketh a barbarian, and he that speaketh shall be a barbarian unto me.
verses 13-19:
13Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret. 14For if I pray in an unknowntongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful. 15What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also. 16Else when thou shalt bless with the spirit, how shall he that occupieth the room of the unlearned say Amen at thy giving of thanks, seeing he understandeth not what thou sayest? 17For thou verily givest thanks well, but the other is not edified. 18I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all: 19Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue
verses 21-35
In the law it is written, With men of other tongues and other lips will I speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not hear me, saith the Lord. 22Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe. 23If therefore the whole church be come together into one place, and all speak with tongues, and there come in those that areunlearned, or unbelievers, will they not say that ye are mad? 24But if all prophesy, and there come in one that believeth not, or one unlearned, he is convinced of all, he is judged of all: 25And thus are the secrets of his heart made manifest; and so falling down on his face he will worship God, and report that God is in you of a truth.How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying. 27If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret. 28But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God. 29Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge. 30If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first hold his peace.31For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted. 32And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets. 33For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.34Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commandedto be under obedience, as also saith the law. 35And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church
And you overlooked greatly the recap of what Paul was saying when he said in verse 39 Wherefore brethren...COVET...to PROPHECY...
Meaning if one is going to speak in tongues, what is the point if it is an unintelligible sound. If it is, keep silent...
6Now, brethren, if I come unto you speaking with tongues, what shall I profit you, except I shall speak to you either by revelation, or by knowledge, or by prophesying, or by doctrine?
(what's the point if I speak in tongues if I don't speak in addition to this tongue the revelation, the knowledge, or something that can be understood from the tongue, which if it can not be understood is unintelligible, like an unknown sound)
7And even things without life giving sound, whether pipe or harp, except they give a distinction in the sounds, how shall it be known what is piped or harped?8For if the trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself to the battle? 9So likewise ye, except ye utter by the tongue words easy to be understood, how shall it be known what is spoken? for ye shall speak into the air. 10There are, it may be, so many kinds of voices in the world, and none of them is without signification.11Therefore if I know not the meaning of the voice, I shall be unto him that speaketh a barbarian, and he that speaketh shall be a barbarian unto me.
verses 13-19:
13Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret. 14For if I pray in an unknowntongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful. 15What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also. 16Else when thou shalt bless with the spirit, how shall he that occupieth the room of the unlearned say Amen at thy giving of thanks, seeing he understandeth not what thou sayest? 17For thou verily givest thanks well, but the other is not edified. 18I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all: 19Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue
verses 21-35
In the law it is written, With men of other tongues and other lips will I speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not hear me, saith the Lord. 22Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe. 23If therefore the whole church be come together into one place, and all speak with tongues, and there come in those that areunlearned, or unbelievers, will they not say that ye are mad? 24But if all prophesy, and there come in one that believeth not, or one unlearned, he is convinced of all, he is judged of all: 25And thus are the secrets of his heart made manifest; and so falling down on his face he will worship God, and report that God is in you of a truth.How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying. 27If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret. 28But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God. 29Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge. 30If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first hold his peace.31For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted. 32And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets. 33For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.34Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commandedto be under obedience, as also saith the law. 35And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church
And you overlooked greatly the recap of what Paul was saying when he said in verse 39 Wherefore brethren...COVET...to PROPHECY...
Meaning if one is going to speak in tongues, what is the point if it is an unintelligible sound. If it is, keep silent...
CSI,
By your post, you are encouraging the speaking in tongues, but are kind of distorting Paul's clear understanding of the speaking in tongues and his directive that if they are unintelligible sound and not accompanied with someone able to interpret these unintelligible sounds, than for the sake of order in the BODY, there is no need to speak in tongues.
GOD is NOT the author of confusion and speaking in tongues, without prophecy....
What is the point?
Please tell me how it edifies the BODY?
By your post, you are encouraging the speaking in tongues, but are kind of distorting Paul's clear understanding of the speaking in tongues and his directive that if they are unintelligible sound and not accompanied with someone able to interpret these unintelligible sounds, than for the sake of order in the BODY, there is no need to speak in tongues.
GOD is NOT the author of confusion and speaking in tongues, without prophecy....
What is the point?
Please tell me how it edifies the BODY?
Chapter 14:10There are, it may be, so many kinds of voices in the world, and none of them is without signification.
11Therefore if I know not the meaning of the voice,
I shall be unto him that speaketh a barbarian, and he that speaketh shall be a barbarian unto me.
2 Even so ye, forasmuch as ye are zealous of spiritual gifts, seek that ye may excel to the edifying of the church.
13Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret.
14For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful.
15What is it then?
I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also.
16Else when thou shalt bless with the spirit, how shall he that occupieth the room of the unlearned say Amen at thy giving of thanks, seeing he understandeth not what thou sayest?
17For thou verily givest thanks well, but the other is not edified.
18I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all:
19Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue
11Therefore if I know not the meaning of the voice,
I shall be unto him that speaketh a barbarian, and he that speaketh shall be a barbarian unto me.
2 Even so ye, forasmuch as ye are zealous of spiritual gifts, seek that ye may excel to the edifying of the church.
13Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret.
14For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful.
15What is it then?
I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also.
16Else when thou shalt bless with the spirit, how shall he that occupieth the room of the unlearned say Amen at thy giving of thanks, seeing he understandeth not what thou sayest?
17For thou verily givest thanks well, but the other is not edified.
18I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all:
19Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue
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All gifts are for the building up of THE BODY...
All gifts are given for the purpose of leading all to CHRIST.
All gifts are given for our ability to enter into HIS WORK of calling all to CHRIST as HIS WITNESSES.
If one is speaking in tongues, and yet has no understanding of what he/she is saying, he/she SHOULD pray to GOD for understanding so that the BODY might be edified.
The SPIRIT does help us with groans when we do not know what to pray, but to speak in tongues, (which Paul spoke in, but also he prayed for the understanding), and have no understanding of what is being said, how does that edify the BODY?
That is why Paul said, I would much rather be able to utter 5 intelligible words for the benefit of the BODY than speak l0,000 unintelligible/unknown words...
All gifts are given for the purpose of leading all to CHRIST.
All gifts are given for our ability to enter into HIS WORK of calling all to CHRIST as HIS WITNESSES.
If one is speaking in tongues, and yet has no understanding of what he/she is saying, he/she SHOULD pray to GOD for understanding so that the BODY might be edified.
The SPIRIT does help us with groans when we do not know what to pray, but to speak in tongues, (which Paul spoke in, but also he prayed for the understanding), and have no understanding of what is being said, how does that edify the BODY?
That is why Paul said, I would much rather be able to utter 5 intelligible words for the benefit of the BODY than speak l0,000 unintelligible/unknown words...
This is not to say that tongues have ceased.
But again, according to Paul's letter, if there is no one to interpret what is being said, than that gift is for your own personal edification and between you and GOD...
You do not start speaking in tongues in the BODY if there is no one who can interpret what is being said.
But again, according to Paul's letter, if there is no one to interpret what is being said, than that gift is for your own personal edification and between you and GOD...
You do not start speaking in tongues in the BODY if there is no one who can interpret what is being said.