The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil

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resurrection33

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[16] And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, "You may freely eat of every tree of the garden;
[17] but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall die." Gen 2:16-17 RSV

I’m curious how people define: The tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
 
Grace777x70

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The eating of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil has released into this world the "knowledge of good and evil". Both fruit are on the exact same tree.

The law of Moses is a manifestation of this tree and God has brought it forth to expose our need for a Savior. It is in the hearts of the gentiles which have never heard of the law as well. Rom. 2:11-16
 
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It is only one fruit, that gives the knowledge of good and evil.

Grace777x70 said:
The eating of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil has released into this world the "knowledge of good and evil". Both fruit are on the exact same tree.

The law of Moses is a manifestation of this tree and God has brought it forth to expose our need for a Savior. It is in the hearts of the gentiles which have never heard of the law as well. Rom. 2:11-16
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Grace777x70 said:
The eating of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil has released into this world the "knowledge of good and evil". Both fruit are on the exact same tree.

The law of Moses is a manifestation of this tree and God has brought it forth to expose our need for a Savior. It is in the hearts of the gentiles which have never heard of the law as well. Rom. 2:11-16
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TheLastKnight said:
It is only one fruit, that gives the knowledge of good and evil.
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I don't claim to understand this, but my best guess is that the tree of the knowledge of good and evil means passing judgment on people.
 
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TheLastKnight said:
It is only one fruit, that gives the knowledge of good and evil.
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I agree...it would have been more accurate to say that the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil has 2 manifestations or parts to it.

Thank you!
 
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resurrection33 said:


I don't claim to understand this, but my best guess is that the tree of the knowledge of good and evil means passing judgment on people.
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What people would they pass judgement on? it was only Adam and Eve.
 
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resurrection33 said:
[16] And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, "You may freely eat of every tree of the garden;
[17] but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall die." Gen 2:16-17 RSV

I’m curious how people define: The tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
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It seems that Adam and Even were initially like angels and then God gave them the ability to choose between good and evil.
 
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The knowledge of good and evil, knowing the difference between good and evil. Before we (adam and eve) had no concept of right or wrong and couldn't sin. They realized they were naked after they ate and became aware. Maybe like an animal before eating the fruit, but even then a dog knows that getting in the garbage is bad, and animals die because of our sin, so is it possible that animals have the knowledge of right and wrong also? But animals don't seem to mind they are naked...
Death is the product of sin, which is why everything dies, eating of the fruit brought that sin upon us because of the knowledge it brought. So know we all know the difference and that means we have to decide until we are resurrected with incorruptible bodies.... Now I am deep in thought.


resurrection33 said:


I don't claim to understand this, but my best guess is that the tree of the knowledge of good and evil means passing judgment on people.
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TheLastKnight

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Before eating of the fruit, they were unlike the angels. Eating of the fruit made man like angels.
22 [FONT=&quot]And the [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Lord[/FONT][FONT=&quot] God said, “The man has now become like one of us,[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT][FONT=&quot] knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT][FONT=&quot] and eat, and live forever.”
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Marcelo said:
It seems that Adam and Even were initially like angels and then God gave them the ability to choose between good and evil.
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Adam and Eve were flesh beings, who had no knowledge of the spirit world, where God and Satan, good and evil, reside and fight. They just saw themselves as flesh. When their eyes were opened, they saw the spiritual realms, including their own spirits.

Obviously if they had had spiritual awareness, they would have seen Satan behind the serpent.
 
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resurrection33 said:
[16] And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, "You may freely eat of every tree of the garden;
[17] but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall die." Gen 2:16-17 RSV

I’m curious how people define: The tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
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I believe It was a physical tree.GOD told them not to eat of that tree and what would happen If they DID eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

GOD gave them the ability to make a choice even though HE knew they would make the wrong choice.

They were tempted and led astray.The physical appearance of the fruit and their desire for what they might gain from It Instead of trusting and obeying the WORD of GOD which Is SPIRIT and LIFE.
 
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The tree of eternal life overrides the death penalty, (Gen3:22), so if Adam and eve had eaten of it before they sinned, they would have had eternal life, and God's death penalty would have been null and void. (Obviously God can do what he wants, but it is quite clear that if they ate it, it would have overriden the death penalty in their flesh).

So why did God not forbid them to eat from that tree as well?

Perhaps the Tree Of Eternal Life existed in the spiritual realms rather than the physical realms, so Adam and Eve simply were not aware of it. Only when their eyes were opened did they become aware, necessitating that God than blocked their access to it.
 
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resurrection33 said:
[16] And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, "You may freely eat of every tree of the garden;
[17] but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall die." Gen 2:16-17 RSV

I’m curious how people define: The tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
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As disobeying THE FATHER, who knows best what is best for HIS children
 
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Marcelo said:
It seems that Adam and Even were initially like angels and then God gave them the ability to choose between good and evil.
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And yet the Lord is telling them not to eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
 
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if death did not enter into Adam and Even until they sinned,
why do people assume that they did not have eternal life unless they ate from the tree of life?

even tho Adam dies, he yet lives - "for all are alive to God" - so immortality of the soul is not dependent on eating from the tree.

this isn't "simple;"
scripture isn't "simple."
it's the communication of omniscient omnipotent God to man.
He is not trivially comprehended
 
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TheLastKnight said:
22 And the Lord God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.”
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who is the LORD God talking to?
who is listening?
for whose benefit is this spoken aloud, and recorded?
which one of the "Us" did Adam become like?
what good from what evil did he know?

is becoming like one of the Us a good thing or a bad thing?

this version you quote leaves out "BEHOLD!!!" -- i believe that's a very important word in the text; it indicates that what follows is something astronomically profound, that i can safely assume i do not fully understand, and is almost unbelievably surprising.

the LORD said this immediately after Adam named Eve.
Adam names Eve ((verse 20)) and then God immediately does three things: He makes garments for Adam and Eve, from skin ((verse 21)) - shedding blood for the first time? for their sake? - He says "BEHOLD!" and makes the statement in the quotation ((verse 22)), then seals the garden ((verses 23-24)).

is God saving them by sealing off the garden, or is God condemning them?

are the things He does immediately after Adam renames Eve a reaction to what Adam has said and done? IOW does He say this because they ate from the tree? because they knew they were naked? because they hid? because they confessed? because Even blamed the snake and Adam blamed his wife ((and God by implication))? because Adam named the woman Eve? because he said she will become the mother of all the living?

which one of these is God saying "BEHOLD!" because of?
or a combination of these - which combination?
why?

sure does not seem simple to me.
 
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Does a dog know good or evil or that it is naked? Many miss the fact that the tree contained both sets of knowledge......the knowledge of GOOD and the knowledge of EVIL.........this brings up a massive paradox......if Adam or EVE did not know GOOD or EVIL until the tree was partaken of......??????

Chew on that for a minute......they did know the rule....but did they understand the consequence of said action....death?
 
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