Should a Christian support the Democratic Party?

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Angela53510

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I guess a better question would have been how our biblical worldview should dictate how we vote. I just wanted to show the complete incompatibility of the Christian worldview and with the liberal or secular progressive worldview. The left is pretty consistently anti-bible and anti-christian. I think there are SOME conservatives who at least don't blatantly contradict scripture. Whereas most liberals not only accept but celebrate and promote things God calls an l abomination. I just don't see any biblical support for this.

If this had been your OP, I could find agreement with it. Except - you talk about a Biblical worldview, but you still have yet to post a single Scripture, describing what that is. Or any definition, for that matter! You assume that a Biblical worldview means thinking exactly as all conservative Americans think. Hypothetically, most countries have a "left" and a "right." Except - it differs from country to country.

For example - universal health care. Some Americans think universal health care was designed by the devil himself. But if you talk to conservative Christians in Canada, for example, caring for the sick, through our health care system is very right wing. It is supported by the Conservative Party of Canada. In fact, it is supported by every party. No one would be elected if they proposed doing away, or even gutting universal health care. As for Scriptures, that prove that universal health care is a "Biblical" world view, there are quite a few. Now, some people might say that the state should not be caring for the sick. And you can go on doing that, but the fact is, it does not work. Whereas most of the rest of the countries in the western world have some kind of universal health care, and it comes from of Christians and Christian values.

In Canada, it was a Baptist minister who led the charge for universal health care. He was a godly man, Tommy Douglas, and his father died because he could not afford to pay a doctor. Douglas became the premier of Saskatchewan, where he started the concept of universal health care provincially in the 1960s. Eventually he went on to federal politics, and was able to force through universal health care during a minority government, as he was head of the party which held the balance of power. So 50 years later, it is a given.

“Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’
40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’" Matt 25:34-40 NIV

[FONT=Helvetica Neue, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]As for for other aspects of how Canadians vote, most Christians vote against abortion, for example. In fact, we just elected a new pro-life head of the Conservative Party and he got into power on the votes of the pro-life [/FONT]movement. Plus, we had some very strong men who were vocally against abortion during the debates and campaign, and it was a wonderful witness. In addition, it reminded the media, like with Trump in the USA, that Christians still exist in Canada, and that we have influence.

Further, I am on quite a few Conservative Canadian Christian forums on FB. Now, there are definitely Christians in Canada who are conservative. But there are many conservatives who are not Christians. They are called "conservative economically." I had to delete most of the groups, because the swearing and nastiness was just so horrid! Not Christian at all.

So, perhaps you need to define, with Scripture,s the aspects of your Biblical worldview. Then, we can discuss how this plays out in practice, in various countries. Hopefully, with others replying and using Scriptures. Plus, kindly note how a Christian worldview differs from a conservative non-Christian worldview. There is a big divide, at least in Canada, between those two world views, and I have no idea what takes place in other countries with regards to defining the line between conservative Christians and conservative non-Christians.

Otherwise, this so-called "Biblical worldview" is just a reflection of personal prejudice, and should not be in this forum. In other words, use the Bible!
 
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left the democratic party years ago. and The GOp are weak. I vote my morals and for those who hold them. when they compromise on them I call them on it and will not vote for them again.
Yes, and it's about gotten to the point where voting is a complete waste of time especially when voting for a state level amendment that gets overturned by the courts which is a slap in the face of Democracy

That's alright... the devil and his associates may be having fun driving the world into destruction now... but they going to pay here shortly after the great trib when Jesus gets here.

The world will be under new management and there will be NO voting... you either agree with Jesus Christ, or find yo self incarcerated either here or in heLL depending on what Jesus and His Saints see in yo heart.



Some Americans think universal health care was designed by the devil himself
It is... designed to further make people completely dependent upon the state... just like it's designed to do in Canada and anywhere there is a nanny state.

The state wants to be your god... and satan is behind it cause it pulls people away from trusting the Lord to be their Provider.
 
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The women that want an abortion, they do it anyway but as the whole thing is illegal they expose themselves to a big danger. Many died, that's why feminist want abortion to be legal. The solution to me would be improving sexual education
I agree, but you don't want to turn sex education over to the wrong people, or they start teaching kids immoral things. That is what they are trying to do here in the United States.
 
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you don't want to turn sex education over to the wrong people, or they start teaching kids immoral things
Oops... too late, they're already teaching them sinful behavior and once the cat is out of the bag... it's not going back in.
 

RickyZ

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I have heard people say that they would vote for the lesser of two evils.....my response....Why vote for any evil no matter which side it comes from....
Because people think they only have 2 choices. And as long as they believe that, it will be true for them.
 

RickyZ

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I guess a better question would have been how our biblical worldview should dictate how we vote. I just wanted to show the complete incompatibility of the Christian worldview and with the liberal or secular progressive worldview. The left is pretty consistently anti-bible and anti-christian. I think there are SOME conservatives who at least don't blatantly contradict scripture. Whereas most liberals not only accept but celebrate and promote things God calls an l abomination. I just don't see any biblical support for this.
Which is worse, someone who outwardly denies Godliness, or someone who claims Godliness but lives a lie?
 

JaumeJ

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Is Jesus Christ our Example? Was He involved with Caesar or Herod?

Render unto Caesar what is Caeser's and unto God what is God.

If you need more, we are no longer of this age rather we are suibjects of the King and the Kingdom......the King is our Savior and Friend.

Why would anyone who truly knows Jesus Christ inbolucrate himself with the works of this age...¿?
 
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Oops... too late, they're already teaching them sinful behavior and once the cat is out of the bag... it's not going back in.
I wish you were wrong, but they got their foot in the door, and now they are reeking havoc.
 
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i dont think christians should support any political party period............ all babylon polit(r)ics
 
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I wish you were wrong, but they got their foot in the door, and now they are reeking havoc.
I wish the statement was wrong too, but it's obvious that most school districts now are celebrating sexual perversion... to the point that being heterosexual is somehow not as good as being sexually perverted.

If you really wanna get some action out of these nutjobs, just tell them that there won't be anyone practicing any form of sexual perversion in Heaven!

They'll get someone fired over a comment like this... or kicked of they gubment assistance, or kick out of they apartment, post yo picture in the local newspaper as public enemy number one... or whatever they can figure out to do in order to damage you somehow.

It's even more sad when those claiming to be Christians say they support sexual perversion. I can't pass that up... for those folks, they need to be told that supporting that stuff makes them worthy of being separated from God (Romans 1:32)
 
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The word of God is not liberal or conservative. His word is called TRUTH. When you bring in the tradition of man (human knowledge - mans point of view), God calls this sin. We now have something in common with the Devil. We have left the Kingdom of God and entered into the Kingdom of darkness. The scripture says that there is a wisdom that comes from God and a wisdom that comes from below; worldliness - the flesh - and demons. Politics can easily bring Christians into the "Law."

The position that the church should be like the Captain of the Hosts of the Lord in Joshua 5. When Joshua questioned him on whose side He was on, He said neither! He made it clear to Joshua that He represented God’s kingdom alone. It was not a question of what side He was on; the real question was who’s on the Lord’s side.

The church represents the Kingdom of God just as the Captain of the Hosts of the Lord. But too many of us have chosen sides.

The Captain of the Host of the Lord made it clear that He hadn't come to take sides. He had come to take over. God didn't come to take sides; He came to take over.
 
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I wish the statement was wrong too, but it's obvious that most school districts now are celebrating sexual perversion... to the point that being heterosexual is somehow not as good as being sexually perverted.

If you really wanna get some action out of these nutjobs, just tell them that there won't be anyone practicing any form of sexual perversion in Heaven!

They'll get someone fired over a comment like this... or kicked of they gubment assistance, or kick out of they apartment, post yo picture in the local newspaper as public enemy number one... or whatever they can figure out to do in order to damage you somehow.

It's even more sad when those claiming to be Christians say they support sexual perversion. I can't pass that up... for those folks, they need to be told that supporting that stuff makes them worthy of being separated from God (Romans 1:32)
Do not pin the tale of what is happening in Public education on the world donkey. The fact is the church was dead asleep on the issue in 1962 when the supreme court heard arguments on the Engel v. Vitale case in 1962. Engel won.

A year later the church continued to snore when Madalyn Murray O'Hair won her case, Murray v. Curlett, also decided by the Supreme court,which ended public Bible reading in all public schools in 1963.

The issue sin Public education are because the Church failed to wake up and take notice in the early 60's. Put the blame where it belongs on the church.
 

RedeemedGift

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I'm not American but I know a good amount (maybe more than I should?) about US politics. I think I would only vote for the Democratic party if the opposing party was much worse. It's not just that the Democratic party supports sinful practices, it's the fact that constitutional rights are hated by them also. We as Christians are strangers in this world but we seek to live in peace amongst the unbelievers whenever we can, but a Democratic party that gets its own way will not allow that to happen.

What America needs is a functional and conservative Republican party that protects the rights of all people. Right now Trump is ruining it in my opinion, even though he has done things I would also support. The special election in Georgia was a lot closer than it otherwise should have been as far as I understand, and that's down to Trump's negative effect on his party.
 

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There was a time in the US where democrats and republicans were both closer to the center and held more to a biblical view of marriage and the sanctity of human life (against abortion). If you remember just a few years ago Obama himself in his first campaign said he was for traditional marriage( one man one woman). But those days are gone. To even be considered a democrat by their own party you must be pro-abortion and pro-gay marriage and agree with all the other views of gender they hold. My question is should a Christian support someone who opposes so blatantly what the scriptures teach? There is NO WAY to take the good and leave the bad, you get the WHOLE candidate.


Before anyone turns this around and ask something about Trump, or poses a question like, "Well how can a Christian support republicans when..." If you want to ask a DIFFERENT question start another post. Let's just focus on the question asked in this post.
***vote according to the Word of God, not political party...
 

Desertsrose

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I'm not American but I know a good amount (maybe more than I should?) about US politics. I think I would only vote for the Democratic party if the opposing party was much worse. It's not just that the Democratic party supports sinful practices, it's the fact that constitutional rights are hated by them also. We as Christians are strangers in this world but we seek to live in peace amongst the unbelievers whenever we can, but a Democratic party that gets its own way will not allow that to happen.

What America needs is a functional and conservative Republican party that protects the rights of all people. Right now Trump is ruining it in my opinion, even though he has done things I would also support. The special election in Georgia was a lot closer than it otherwise should have been as far as I understand, and that's down to Trump's negative effect on his party.
Actually it was more about the Dems trying to get that seat no matter the cost. This was the most expensive house race in history.
 

lastofall

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No. why? because we are not (supposed to be) of this world. Politics is a religion and is based solely on this secular world's love of mans use of knowledge, and look to mankind for its confidence and hope.
 

Desertsrose

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Hi Nick,

No we can't support either party really. I'll vote, but my husband and I have been in both parties and at their meetings.

They both act alike because the parties themselves are a part of the world system. Their values have nothing to do with God. It has to do with, "how can we get elected"? No matter what!

And actually it was an eye opener for us. We were under a false delusion that the Republican Party was God's party. How foolish we can be. Innocently and unknowingly, we were deceived .......... we got a taste of the Republican party and it was just as repulsive as the Democratic party.

They are both just an 'it'. It's an entity.

We vote for a person and not for a party.


 

RedeemedGift

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Actually it was more about the Dems trying to get that seat no matter the cost. This was the most expensive house race in history.
But the seat has belonged to the Republicans since the 1970s. That's an eternity in political terms. I don't think many people there would have been wooed by the same progressive campaign that failed to win Hillary Clinton the presidency last year.
 
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wwjd_kilden

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In Norway we have a wide range of parties to vote for, and who you vote for is considered a private matter (though of course here too some people will have very strong and public opinions on the matter :p )

Our political jungle is ranging from extreme left (Communist party) to not quite as extreme, but still far out Right ("Progress" party ) .... and then there are the reasonably normal parties in between :p

We even have two "Christian" parties, although one of them I know little about, and the other one seems to have less Christianity on it's agenda than some of the secular parties! (but at least they won't actively try to remove Christianity)

Some of the parties are rather small, so if any of those win they would have to form a coalition government:
Good thing: If one of the parties are extreme, the others keep them in check
Bad thing: They can never get to an agreement about anything

I am considering a blank vote this year....