Should a Christian support the Democratic Party?

[NickT]

There was a time in the US where democrats and republicans were both closer to the center and held more to a biblical view of marriage and the sanctity of human life (against abortion). If you remember just a few years ago Obama himself in his first campaign said he was for traditional marriage( one man one woman). But those days are gone. To even be considered a democrat by their own party you must be pro-abortion and pro-gay marriage and agree with all the other views of gender they hold. My question is should a Christian support someone who opposes so blatantly what the scriptures teach? There is NO WAY to take the good and leave the bad, you get the WHOLE candidate.


Before anyone turns this around and ask something about Trump, or poses a question like, "Well how can a Christian support republicans when..." If you want to ask a DIFFERENT question start another post. Let's just focus on the question asked in this post.

 

[Yeraza_Bats]

In my old life I strictly voted democrat. I voted for Obama twice : p

Since coming to Him, Ive grown more and more uncomfortable with the democratic party. It gets worse every day too : p Like even recently, with the Bernie Sanders putting the Christian politician down because he doesnt believe a Muslim can be saved unless he turns to Christ. I mean, that is a really hypocritical thing to be angry about, if you know anything about Islam, Islam teaches the exact same thing about Christians.

I dont believe that I will ever be voting democrat again, tbh. Im strictly anti-abortion, and while I believe that people should be allowed to live however they want (as in I dont think we should force them to come to Christ, but we SHOULD have the right to guide them to Him and warn them to repent), I still dont feel totally comfortable with a candidate whos a strong supporter of the homosexual community. And the party seems to become more and more anti-Christian every day, in order to appease the secular community in order to get votes. Its not the party for me.

 

[RickyZ]

No. Christians should not be supporting either party, because both parties have become accomplished liars and thieves.

 

[Meggido]

THE GOP is actually worse in one way than the DEMS.

The GOP lies outright to evangelicals to get their vote and then never delivers righteousness as most evangelicals demand.

For example: Ted Cruz and his implosion.

The foolishness of most of the TV evangelists supporting the GOP is appalling.....the outright lie most of them bait people with is that our founding Fathers set up a theocracy when they came here. Friends, the USA has never been 2 things:

A theocracy or a democracy, we were set up as a republic...which is neither of the before mentioned things.

I get so sick of the likes of TV Preachers using their pulpits to bully "Christians" on the vote. They know it and you should know it, you cannot nor will you ever legislate morality.

Franklin Graham should sit down and shut up. Religious freedom is just stupid. It's never going to happen and the Bible tells you this.

The problem is we have a bunch of hireling TV preachers lathering up the conservative base so they can protect their amassed wealth, that no tax ever has been paid on.

I read a study by Darrell Castle of the Constitution Party that said if religious 501 3/C orgs paid their fair share of taxes we could feed the widows and orphans.

By the by, the TV preachers are united on one thing and that is gaining the ability to endorse a candidate and they almost have it locked up, the down side is they will loose their 501 3/c status and have no clue they will.

The modern day church of Laodicea is already here

 

[NickT]

THE GOP is actually worse in one way than the DEMS.

The GOP lies outright to evangelicals to get their vote and then never delivers righteousness as most evangelicals demand.

For example: Ted Cruz and his implosion.

The foolishness of most of the TV evangelists supporting the GOP is appalling.....the outright lie most of them bait people with is that our founding Fathers set up a theocracy when they came here. Friends, the USA has never been 2 things:

A theocracy or a democracy, we were set up as a republic...which is neither of the before mentioned things.

I get so sick of the likes of TV Preachers using their pulpits to bully "Christians" on the vote. They know it and you should know it, you cannot nor will you ever legislate morality.

Franklin Graham should sit down and shut up. Religious freedom is just stupid. It's never going to happen and the Bible tells you this.

The problem is we have a bunch of hireling TV preachers lathering up the conservative base so they can protect their amassed wealth, that no tax ever has been paid on.

I read a study by Darrell Castle of the Constitution Party that said if religious 501 3/C orgs paid their fair share of taxes we could feed the widows and orphans.

By the by, the TV preachers are united on one thing and that is gaining the ability to endorse a candidate and they almost have it locked up, the down side is they will loose their 501 3/c status and have no clue they will.

The modern day church of Laodicea is already here

Like I said if you wanted to discuss the problems of the GOP start another post. There ARE candidates in the GOP who aren't blatantly supporting things the Bible condemns but all democrats I know of are pro abortion and pro gay marriage. So that's the problem I was addressing.

 

[trofimus]

I do not think this should be in the Bible discussion.

Many of us are not from the USA.

It has the same value to us as my question "Should I support ODS or ČSSD" would have to you...

 

[Rockrz]

Should a Christian support the Democratic Party?

NO!... unless you believe Christians should support the major point of their party platform such as baby killin, gayness, nanny state, getting stoned on weed, anti-Christ rhetoric, etc, etc

Those that support such things are worthy of death (separation from God - see Romans 1:32)

When the anti-christ comes to power... if the dems are in the big house the US will be in agreement and bowing down immediately... of corse we may be if the repbs are in as well since many of them are wanna be dems

I get so sick of the likes of TV Preachers using their pulpits to bully "Christians" on the vote

Yeah, like when Copeland publicly stated that God has anointed Ted Cruz to be the next President... further proving he is a false prophet!

I do not think this should be in the Bible discussion.

Many of us are not from the USA.

It has the same value to us as my question "Should I support ODS or ČSSD" would have to you...

OK, then to you guys outside of the US... the question would be is it OK to support liberals and their liberal policies

 

[Angela53510]

I second Trofimus!

This is not the Bible or theology! It should be moved to the Misc forum, or the News Forum.

As a Canadian, I get tired of people thinking this is an American site, when it is an international forum. Take some time to look at the flags. People are from all over!

Besides, this is the BIBLE Discussion Forum! Not the political speculation forum!

 

[resurrection33]

There was a time in the US where democrats and republicans were both closer to the center and held more to a biblical view of marriage and the sanctity of human life (against abortion). If you remember just a few years ago Obama himself in his first campaign said he was for traditional marriage( one man one woman). But those days are gone. To even be considered a democrat by their own party you must be pro-abortion and pro-gay marriage and agree with all the other views of gender they hold. My question is should a Christian support someone who opposes so blatantly what the scriptures teach? There is NO WAY to take the good and leave the bad, you get the WHOLE candidate.


Before anyone turns this around and ask something about Trump, or poses a question like, "Well how can a Christian support republicans when..." If you want to ask a DIFFERENT question start another post. Let's just focus on the question asked in this post.

I cannot support a party that withholds federal funds from schools that don't force girls to shower with boys, if the boys say they want to be girls. That is what Obama did. I believe that is what Clinton was going to do.

 

[Rockrz]

f religious 501 3/C orgs paid their fair share of taxes we could feed the widows and orphans.

That's not true... simply because the government would waste the extra money on other things.

But, I will admit that I no longer write off charitable contributions on my tax returns and the Lord has started leading me to give the money that would be tithes and offerings to a church over to individuals in need

One good thing about not being a 501C3 organization is that... you could teach about politics and they couldn't threaten to take away the tax exemption. Then, all they could do is remove you from TV, radio, and forbid to handle any outgoing mail your organization may be sending out.

 

[Rockrz]

I believe that is what Clinton was going to do

Yeah, that and join them in the shower.... on her Shower Tour with Anthony Wiener

 

[Rochii]

Here in Argentina the left also promotes abortion
It's still illegal
But leftist feminist are making a big movement to make abortion legal.
So I would never vote for anyone of them

 

[Meggido]

That's not true... simply because the government would waste the extra money on other things.

But, I will admit that I no longer write off charitable contributions on my tax returns and the Lord has started leading me to give the money that would be tithes and offerings to a church over to individuals in need

One good thing about not being a 501C3 organization is that... you could teach about politics and they couldn't threaten to take away the tax exemption. Then, all they could do is remove you from TV, radio, and forbid to handle any outgoing mail your organization may be sending out.

The TV preacher hirelings have turned the 5013/c into their own little private bank, it is appalling how much they take in and then state how "blessed" they are...some of their speaking fees prove the point.

 

[Rochii]

Here in Argentina the left also promotes abortion
It's still illegal
But leftist feminist are making a big movement to make abortion legal. They are also saying that gender is not attached to sex, a man can be a woman and a woman a man (nonsense) .
So I would never vote for anyone of them

 

[CS1]

left the democratic party years ago. and The GOp are weak. I vote my morals and for those who hold them. when they compromise on them I call them on it and will not vote for them again.

 

[trofimus]

Here in Argentina the left also promotes abortion
It's still illegal
But leftist feminist are making a big movement to make abortion legal.
So I would never vote for anyone of them

Just curious, what are mothers doing, when they cannot have a baby from various reasons, are pregnant and the abortion is illegal ,there?

 

[DustyRhodes]

To answer, I would have to ask how it is that Christians have come to rely on a
secular government to settle Christians matters. Where were we when abortions
were happening in back alley doctor's offices left and right. We're 2000 years
down the road now; how far have we come or not come.

 

[RickyZ]

To answer, I would have to ask how it is that Christians have come to rely on a
secular government to settle Christians matters. Where were we when abortions
were happening in back alley doctor's offices left and right. We're 2000 years
down the road now; how far have we come or not come.

Render unto Caesar, right? The problem is not Christians having to rely on secular government to settle their issues, it's Christians who expect the government to push Christian agendas. Should we support candidates who live - notice I said live, not espouse - a Christian lifestyle? Absolutely. Should these people codify a Christian law set? Only very, very carefully, if at all.

 

[RickyZ]

But seriously, Democrats are going to screw us from the bottom and Republicans are going to screw us from the top. I feel shame for any Christian who votes for the 'lesser evil'. I'm pretty sure the Bible says we shouldn't vote for any evil.

 

[NickT]

I do not think this should be in the Bible discussion.

Many of us are not from the USA.

It has the same value to us as my question "Should I support ODS or ČSSD" would have to you...

Well on the post on here that deal with things I'm not familiar with I just don't comment. I don't understand why people act like they can't just ignore a post they don't like or are unfamiliar with. It's about whether it's biblical to support a certain ideology that contradicts scripture in some clear ways. If you're unfamiliar with that ideology then read about it or just comment on something you understand. I think almost everyone from everywhere understands what liberal views are vs conservative.