AS YOU HAVE BELIEVED

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joaniemarie

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FranC said:
John 14:13-14 would apply to the above. It's just something Jesus said. I don't understand what a tag is. Jesus just said to do this...
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As you mentioned about your friend who you prayed for Fran., you said in your post;
Originally Posted by FranC

I once told a girl I know, who felt her prayers weren't being answered because she was going through a divorce, that we must pray in the will of the Father. She said it sounded like a cop out.

Sometimes it's not so easy to know the will of the Father. I've been Christian many years and I'm still not sure what this means.

Do you end a prayer with "In Jesus' name we pray" or "if it be Your will"?

I guess both.


We don't get anything we want by tagging on the end "In Jesus name" or "if it could be thy will" Some pray for all kinds of things that are not in God's will or they ask "amiss" as the Bible says based on consuming it upon their own lusts. I hope you read some of the posts because the Bible tells us how to know the will of God and how to walk in the will of God. It is not hard to know the will of God when we are walking with Him each day and are intimately acquainted with Him. This takes time to do and we invest our time and our lives in Him. We soon are copying Him because we find out how much He loves us and how much He has invested in us more and more each day.

The whole premise of sharing this devotional was because most Christians don't know God loves them so much He sent Jesus His only Son to save them from eternal death and hell. But for some reason many Christians don't believe God has time or a will to help and save them from their daily problems. This is so wrong.

Jesus said He had to leave for the Holy Spirit to come. So He gave us His Holy Spirit to show us how to get out of the seemingly hopeless situations we find ourselves in right now. Those who are IN Christ have the Holy Spirit to lead and teach and guide and comfort. How can we fail since we have all these things?
 
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joaniemarie

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WingsOfFidelity said:
My husband and I have been going through a very tough time. (It has nothing to do with our relationship.) We have been praying for God to us get through this. Reading this thread was something I needed. Thank you very much!
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Very glad to hear that WingsOfFidelity. The enemy seeks to destroy marriages and families and relationships. he knows God gave us marriage to help us along in life. The devil hates us and wants us to be confused about one another all the time. To be in doubt about how much we are loved and cared about. But if we know we have a common enemy who always lies, who is seeking to destroy us and all the blessings God has given us we can fight united against him.

I've prayed for you too. Marriage at times can be difficult but only because it's so good and wonderful when it's right.
Marriage is one of those major blessings from God and the enemy wants it destroyed. Anything really good is going to be highly attacked by the enemy. I'm really glad you both are united and in prayer in whatever you are dealing with together. You both are so blessed to have each other and a good relationship.


 
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joaniemarie

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Another part of the message I was listening to talks about how much fear do we tolerate in life? Because our faith will get contaminated by fear. satan wants us to be stopped in our faith and uses fear to do it. Many of us go only part way in our faith. We have been given all things that pertain to life and godliness already. We are not trying to have victory., we have victory and what we are in Bible and Holy Spirit reality supposed to be doing is working from that victory. To maintain it by our faith in His victory. We are more than conquerors through Christ who loved us.

We have been given His life and promises that He will never leave us or forsake us. But circumstances come in and sort of drag us along and because some of us were never taught., we think we have no power against those things that are dragging us. But we do. We have Jesus and His blood bought promises. Now it's time to learn about Him and trust Him to do what He said in His Word.

We can stop His work and word in our lives by letting doubt and fear in. The world, the flesh and the devil are always going to want to stop us from proceeding. It's like going to the refrigerator to get the food we need. We can almost "feel" as though this fridge isn't ours. And although we are so hungry for Him and His provisions we believe (for the lack of Bible truth in our lives) that we have not been given permission to open the door and take what we need., we won't.

But we already were given the whole refrigerator and the house that it's in. Yet because we don't believe we were gifted those things., we proceed with such faithless caution opening the door a crack and taking the first thing we can quickly grab. And it turns out to be salad dressing. GACK. How much nutrients can one get from salad dressing? You can probably survive but not very well.

When in actuality., we could have opened the door and looked and taken the turkey dinner with all the trimmings including the rolls. God loves us that much but we don't believe it. We are the ones who limit God in our lives by not believing in His love for us. His love is also supposed to be working practically in our lives but we stop it each and every time by our lack of faith in His love and concern for us. Religion says you are not worthy nor have you done enough yet. You are to walk as a pauper with salad dressing to maintain you and somehow this will make God be approved of you? NO !!


But the Bible says Jesus has given you all that you need pertaining to LIFE and GODLINESS. He has given the gift of His righteousness that entitles you to all His promises and all He has for you because His blood has already paid for everything. The walk of grace through faith is what allows a mere human to reach out and take hold of the things prepared for them.

I hope to encourage anyone who is living a life of getting salad dressing and being starved in their lives to step out by faith and learn about Jesus and what He has actually done for us. And to learn about His promises and how much He loves you and wants to nurture you and feed you and lead you beside the calm still waters. Green pastures are His will for us. Peace and security are ours by faith. No matter what our circumstances., Jesus provides for us and will get us through to the other side of any problem we face using the beautiful Holy Spirit as our Guide and Comforter and Teacher. Rivers of living waters flow in and through the lives of those who rest in His love. Because there IS A REST for the people of God.
 
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oldethennew

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hubby and I have a lot of faith in people who pray to their Heavenly Father -
we have never once even thought about how they would choose or be led
to end their 'prayers'...this is such a personal thing between our Heavenly Father
and ourselves:
who in their right mind could possibly make a judgment/or even care about how anyone ends or begins
their own prayers is a real 'mystery', perhaps much prayer is needed here for themselves...
 
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joaniemarie

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oldethennew said:
hubby and I have a lot of faith in people who pray to their Heavenly Father -
we have never once even thought about how they would choose or be led
to end their 'prayers'...this is such a personal thing between our Heavenly Father
and ourselves:
who in their right mind could possibly make a judgment/or even care about how anyone ends or begins
their own prayers is a real 'mystery', perhaps much prayer is needed here for themselves...
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oldethenew., you have misunderstood what I've posted big time. And that is not hard to do here when we read posts of different people who we don't know or talk to in person. The Bible tells us to pray in Jesus name and in His will. I believe that but they are not just words to me. Behind those words are meanings that He wants us each personally to know about.

Only each one of us and God can know the meaning personally behind our prayers no one else can. I have not made a judgment on anyone here. What I did share is what many of us Christians have been taught about praying in His will.., and we wonder why if we prayed the way the Bible said and in His will., why our prayers were not answered.

So no judgment has been made towards anyone here but me at myself and my previous habit of praying. The questions were asked and I attempted to answer them. What you have stated here is a misunderstanding of the topic. I'd encourage you to read the very 1st post with the devotional and my comments. Then the posts after that I typed (yes., they are long) but if you are going to make a judgment on my words here and post your disapproval, you seriously need to read them through.

 
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oldethennew

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we Love you, Joanie,

just take what we said with a grain of Love...
 
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oldethennew

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hay,

are you able to receive (2) real big HUGS? remember, there are two of us who
are embracing your precious heart...:eek::)
 
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