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    In Genesis 1:14-19 God establishes the sun, moon and stars....he then lists 4 things they would be used for....Signs is first on the list.....throughout history we see the sun, moon and stars being used by God in unique ways to work his will or announce his will and this very applicable truth is woven throughout the bible with many events such as

    Exodus <--Three days and nights of darkness Exodus 10:21-22
    Joshua <--The sun and moon held in place almost a day Joshua 10:13
    Job <----The 12 signs of the Mazzaroth and other astronomical events mentioned Job 26:11, 13-14 and Job 38:32
    Hezekiah and proof he would live<---2nd Kings 20:9-11 and Isaiah 38:8
    Jesus and his birth<---Matthew 2:1-2

    Having said this.....On September the 23rd, only once in like an estimated 7000 years and after the Feast of the Trumpets which starts at sunset on the 21st and ends at sunset on the 23rd the stars, planets, sun and moon will align to mirror the sign found in Revelation 12......

    What do you all think about this and do you believe this is significant.......

    A sign from the God of heaven to humanity?
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    Introduction
    Recently at Answers in Genesis, we have begun to get enquiries about a supposed event of great prophetic significance on September 23 of this year. Many videos on the Internet are promoting this. On this date, the sun will be in the constellation Virgo (the virgin), along with the moon near Virgo’s feet. Additionally, Jupiter will be in Virgo, while the planets Venus, Mars, and Mercury will be above and to the right of Virgo in the constellation Leo. Some people claim that this is a very rare event (allegedly only once in 7,000 years) and that it supposedly is a fulfillment of a sign in Revelation 12. Revelation 12:1–2 (ESV) reads:


    And a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars. She was pregnant and was crying out in birth pains and the agony of giving birth.


    So we have here a woman (Virgo) in the sky (heaven), along with the sun, and the moon at her feet. What about the 12 stars? Virtually all the websites promoting this prophetic sign state that there are nine stars in Leo, but with the addition of the three planets (which appear as bright stars), there are 12 stars. Since Leo is to the upper right of Virgo’s head, one might see this as a crown of 12 stars, though these 12 stars will be far above Virgo’s head. Many of the videos that discuss this have various embellishments, such as tying this event to the supposed rogue planet Niburu or the tetrad of total lunar eclipses in 2014–2015. I’ve previously written about these other two subjects and found them wanting, so we ought to be wary about this one too. Let us examine the claims.


    Examination of the Claims
    First, there is nothing particularly unusual about the sun appearing in the constellation Virgo. As we orbit the sun each year, the sun appears to move through the 12 constellations of the zodiac, spending about a month in each one. The month that the sun appears in Virgo is around the time of the autumnal equinox, from mid-September through late October. Nor is it unusual to find the moon near the feet of Virgo. The moon takes 27 1/3 days to orbit the earth with respect to the stars. Therefore, for a day or two each month, the moon appears near the feet of Virgo. (I keep mentioning the feet of Virgo. Although I am very familiar with Virgo, I have never been able to see a woman in the sky there, so I can hardly pick out what is supposed to be her feet, and I seriously doubt anyone else can either.) Therefore, for a day or two each September or October, the sun appears in Virgo with the moon at her feet, so this is not that remarkable.


    It was more than 15 years ago that I first heard the suggestion that this annual event might be a fulfillment of Revelation 12 in some particular year. Since then, interest in this idea has increased, with some people speculating or even predicting that “this is the year,” only to forget about it when nothing significant transpired before moving on to the next year’s occurrence. However, this year’s event has attracted much more attention than previously, so why is this year so different?


    One possibility is the addition of Jupiter to the mix. Some people claim that this year Jupiter will be near what is supposed to be the womb of Virgo, so it represents the child that the woman is about to give birth to. Jupiter takes nearly 12 years to orbit the sun, so this is the period with which Jupiter moves through the zodiacal constellations, spending about a year in each one. In fact, I first saw Jupiter when it was close to Virgo in 1969—I have watched Jupiter pass through four complete orbits since.


    This means that Jupiter appears in the part of Virgo corresponding to her womb, along with the sun in Virgo and the moon at her feet for a day or two every 12 years or so. The last time this happened was in 2005, so why was that event not heralded for its prophetic significance?


    I suspect that it is because YouTube was very new then, having started in February of that year. This year, with the huge popularity of YouTube, it is much easier to propagate these ideas.


    Another factor is the addition of the three naked-eye planets in Leo, above the head of Virgo. The videos promoting this supposed sign claim that the constellation Leo has nine stars, so the addition of these three “wandering stars” brings the total number of stars in Leo, above the head of Virgo, to 12, with the 12 stars forming the crown of the woman in the sky, according to Revelation 12:1. Except that Leo has more than nine stars. Where did the people touting this supposed fulfillment of prophecy get the idea that Leo has nine stars?


    Every presentation of the September 23 event that I have seen has used the popular Stellarium software package to illustrate the events of September 23. Sure enough, the lines connecting the stars of Leo into an outline of a lion include nine stars. However, even the Stellarium display shows other stars in Leo that are not connected by the lines.


    And different depictions of Leo connect different numbers of stars. For instance, the monthly star chart in the April 2017 issue of Sky and Telescope magazine (pp. 42–43) connects 13 stars with lines. The star chart at this website connects 10 stars. None of these charts connect a line to Omicron Leonis, the star that forms the front paws of Leo. When showing Leo to people, I always point out this star marking Leo’s paw. By the way, the Digistar-5 software in the Stargazers Planetarium at the Creation Museum connects 10 stars in Leo, including Omicron Leonis.


    Since the claim that Leo has nine stars is false, the assertion that the addition of the three planets brings the total number of stars in Leo to 12 is false too. And how rare is this occurrence, to have these additional three planets in Leo at the same time that Jupiter is in Virgo? It isn’t that common, but it certainly has happened many times over the past 6,000 years, so the claim that this unusual event is so rare is false too. And how do we know that Jupiter must represent the child? There is no evidence for that either. Instead, this is a mere assertion that someone made, with many others repeating the claim. Based upon Revelation 12:5, most commentators think that the child was Jesus. Some promoters of this supposed sign claim that the Hebrews associated Jupiter with the Messiah. Again, this is a conjectural assertion not supported by any facts. These sorts of claims amount to Rorschach tests—people tend to see in them what they want to see.


    Conclusion
    I have identified several problems with the supposed sign of September 23, 2017. However, there are other, broader problems with it. One of the purposes that God ordained for the stars is for them to be signs (Genesis 1:14). However, to truly be a sign, shouldn’t such things be obvious, at least to a few people? Since the sun will be in Virgo at the time, virtually none of Virgo’s stars will be visible. The three planets in Leo will be visible in the early morning that day, but all will be low in the southeastern sky. Venus is very bright, so it will be relatively easy to spot; however, Mars and Mercury will not be, because they will be much fainter, and they won’t rise until about the time morning twilight begins.


    The thin crescent moon will be visible in the evening sky, low in the southwest. Jupiter may be visible lower in the southwest, though it will be difficult, since it will set before evening twilight ends. That is, not all of this “sign” will be visible, and those parts that will be visible won’t be visible at the same time. While this event may show up nicely on a computer screen, God set the lights in the “firmament of heaven” (not on computer screens) to be for signs.


    What sort of prophetic event is this sign supposed to usher in? Clearly, most people promoting this have in mind the Lord’s return. Some explicitly state this, but others, mindful of the words of Jesus in Matthew 24:36, are hesitant to make that claim, though their implication is clear enough.


    These sorts of claims or intimations have been made many times before. For instance, the four lunar eclipses during 2014–2015 caused many people to anticipate the Lord’s return then, but of course this did not happen. I suspect that the same will be true on September 23 this year. People who get excited about supposed signs miss the point that Jesus made (Matthew 24:36–51). Instead of setting dates, we ought to be ready for His return at any moment. Are you ready?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcontroversal View Post
    In Genesis 1:14-19 God establishes the sun, moon and stars.
    You for real, huh? So what exactly was made in Genesis 1:3.In Genesis 1 John 1:15 it is written that God is light then what light did God see that when he saw it that he said it was good.

    And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. Genesis 1:3
    And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. Gen 1:4


    So how many hours are they in a day? Of course the evening and the morning is a period of 12 hours, but let's see what is written in the Bible, Jesus answered, Are there not twelve hours in the day? If any man walk in the day, he stumbleth not, becausehe seeth the light of this world. But if a man walk in the night, he stumbleth, because there is no light in him. John 11:9-10

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    What do you all think about this and do you believe this is significant.......
    A sign from the God of heaven to humanity?

    On August 21, 2017 the Rubberband Man is coming....lol


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    I always took this passage to be talking about the birth of Jesus and why the wise men journeyed from the East to Bethlehem.

    . Revelation 12:1–2 (ESV) reads:


    And a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars. She was pregnant and was crying out in birth pains and the agony of giving birth.

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    As for the science part...I found this article helpful

    Biblical signs in the sky? | Astronomy Essentials | EarthSky

    First, in one year, thanks to the Earth’s annual orbit, the sun travels the entirety of the ecliptic, and thus passes through every one of the 12 constellations of the zodiac. The sun is in Virgo every September.

    Second, in one month the moon goes through its cycle of phases, and travels the entirety of the ecliptic, and thus passes through every constellation of the zodiac—all owed to the period of the moon’s orbit being one month. Therefore there is always a day or two every year when the sun is in Virgo and the moon is just to the east of Virgo (just past the “feet”).

    So, the celestial “woman clothed with the sun with the moon at her feet” is as common in September as is the U.S. holiday of Labor Day.
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    (for me anyway] first on the list is:

    "But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth." (Matthew 12:39-40)
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    John Hagee , Mark Biltz and others got the body all lathered up 2 years ago when the feast of trumpets and day of atonement coincided with the blood moons and other heavenly signs and they said the rapture would occur and not on thing happened.

    I know many deceived pastors that told the congregants to expect the rapture and had special "rapture" services...
    Many fell away from the faith on that and Hagee should be defrocked...

    I know DOCN does not believe in the rapture and my reply is not an indictment on him. I think we place far too much emphasis on the epochs and seasons and Jesus told us in Acts 1.8 that was not for us to know...

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    Love all the mouthy responses from SOME....especially the one about signs and rubber man.......awesome responses.......!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcontroversal View Post
    Love all the mouthy responses from SOME....especially the one about signs and rubber man.......awesome responses.......!
    Well here's one for you, my good friend....I do believe that the bride WILL be caught up very soon Possibly on Sept 23

    Let the mockers mock.

    For those mockers? The important thing is to be ready. If you are not ready, then get ready! Repentance, which is rarely taught in Churchianity, is more than just feeling bad about your sin. It's stopping sinning and changing your lifestyle to match the Word. The bride is the one who is LOOKING for His return..The Bride is the one who has MADE HERSELF READY. Are you looking for Him? Are you making yourself ready? If not you stand a really good chance of missing the Rapture.

    God does have a time table. Let's pay attention to that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denadii View Post
    Well here's one for you, my good friend....I do believe that the bride WILL be caught up very soon Possibly on Sept 23

    Let the mockers mock.

    For those mockers? The important thing is to be ready. If you are not ready, then get ready! Repentance, which is rarely taught in Churchianity, is more than just feeling bad about your sin. It's stopping sinning and changing your lifestyle to match the Word. The bride is the one who is LOOKING for His return..The Bride is the one who has MADE HERSELF READY. Are you looking for Him? Are you making yourself ready? If not you stand a really good chance of missing the Rapture.

    God does have a time table. Let's pay attention to that.
    Interesting comment, I have thought that if I am walking in repentance I do not need to make sure if I am ready....Those that suggest this need to take their own advice and stop date setting...no man knows the day...

    You also ask people to do what Jesus said we should not...worry or pay attention to the time table..

    BTW, DOCN and I do not share your pre-trib rapture theory...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meggido View Post
    Interesting comment, I have thought that if I am walking in repentance I do not need to make sure if I am ready....Those that suggest this need to take their own advice and stop date setting...no man knows the day...

    You also ask people to do what Jesus said we should not...worry or pay attention to the time table..

    BTW, DOCN and I do not share your pre-trib rapture theory...
    Of course YOU would want to fight. You usually do. I was not date setting. What did I say? It could possibly be Sept 23. I did not say it Will be. That would be date setting..In case you did not realize it. Date setting is not a sin in any case. No need to fight there.

    Second Repentance and working out your salvation with fear and trembling are NOT the same thing. You need a legible copy of a bible. and you need to learn to read it.

    Third..I don't give a rats backside if you agree with pretrib or not. The Bride has made herself ready...the bride is watching for Him.

    Get off the fighting and get onto the Word. You make yourself look silly with all your blat. I'm not hating on you here. I'm speaking the way I always speak. Direct and to the point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denadii View Post
    Of course YOU would want to fight. You usually do. I was not date setting. What did I say? It could possibly be Sept 23. I did not say it Will be. That would be date setting..In case you did not realize it. Date setting is not a sin in any case. No need to fight there.

    Second Repentance and working out your salvation with fear and trembling are NOT the same thing. You need a legible copy of a bible. and you need to learn to read it.

    Third..I don't give a rats backside if you agree with pretrib or not. The Bride has made herself ready...the bride is watching for Him.

    Get off the fighting and get onto the Word. You make yourself look silly with all your blat. I'm not hating on you here. I'm speaking the way I always speak. Direct and to the point.
    you are date setting, so stop playing diversion...

    The Bride is not the gentile church now is it? Palm 45.13-15<<<<<who is the Bride, who are the virgins?

    Oh another works based salvation expert....this explains your theories
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    Quote Originally Posted by dcontroversal View Post
    In Genesis 1:14-19 God establishes the sun, moon and stars....he then lists 4 things they would be used for....Signs is first on the list.....throughout history we see the sun, moon and stars being used by God in unique ways to work his will or announce his will and this very applicable truth is woven throughout the bible with many events such as

    Exodus <--Three days and nights of darkness Exodus 10:21-22
    Joshua <--The sun and moon held in place almost a day Joshua 10:13
    Job <----The 12 signs of the Mazzaroth and other astronomical events mentioned Job 26:11, 13-14 and Job 38:32
    Hezekiah and proof he would live<---2nd Kings 20:9-11 and Isaiah 38:8
    Jesus and his birth<---Matthew 2:1-2

    Having said this.....On September the 23rd, only once in like an estimated 7000 years and after the Feast of the Trumpets which starts at sunset on the 21st and ends at sunset on the 23rd the stars, planets, sun and moon will align to mirror the sign found in Revelation 12......

    What do you all think about this and do you believe this is significant.......

    A sign from the God of heaven to humanity?
    This could very well be a sign from God portending something of great significance that's about to take place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meggido View Post
    you are date setting, so stop playing diversion...

    The Bride is not the gentile church now is it? Palm 45.13-15<<<<<who is the Bride, who are the virgins?

    Oh another works based salvation expert....this explains your theories
    Wow! I'll bet you even voted for Hilary
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denadii View Post
    Wow! I'll bet you even voted for Hilary
    Actually I voted for Darrell Castle...
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    [QUOTE=Meggido;3156828]Interesting comment, I have thought that if I am walking in repentance I do not need to make sure if I am ready....Those that suggest this need to take their own advice and stop date setting...no man knows the day...

    You also ask people to do what Jesus said we should not...worry or pay attention to the time table..

    BTW, DOCN and I do not share your pre-trib rapture theory...[/QUOTE]

    If this was directed at me...no offence but I have adamantly stood against pre-trib for about 15 years especially in CC...so....why would you say that if it is directed at me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meggido View Post
    Actually I voted for Darrell Castle...
    I voted for Bernie. Long story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meggido View Post
    Interesting comment, I have thought that if I am walking in repentance I do not need to make sure if I am ready....Those that suggest this need to take their own advice and stop date setting...no man knows the day...

    You also ask people to do what Jesus said we should not...worry or pay attention to the time table..

    BTW, DOCN and I do not share your pre-trib rapture theory...[/QUOTE]

    If this was directed at me...no offence but I have adamantly stood against pre-trib for about 15 years especially in CC...so....why would you say that if it is directed at me?
    It was in response to Denadii suggesting that on 9/23/17 Jesus was coming to rapture the bride....was just letting him know you and I are not pre-tribbers...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcontroversal View Post
    In Genesis 1:14-19 God establishes the sun, moon and stars....he then lists 4 things they would be used for....Signs is first on the list.....throughout history we see the sun, moon and stars being used by God in unique ways to work his will or announce his will and this very applicable truth is woven throughout the bible with many events such as

    Exodus <--Three days and nights of darkness Exodus 10:21-22
    Joshua <--The sun and moon held in place almost a day Joshua 10:13
    Job <----The 12 signs of the Mazzaroth and other astronomical events mentioned Job 26:11, 13-14 and Job 38:32
    Hezekiah and proof he would live<---2nd Kings 20:9-11 and Isaiah 38:8
    Jesus and his birth<---Matthew 2:1-2

    Having said this.....On September the 23rd, only once in like an estimated 7000 years and after the Feast of the Trumpets which starts at sunset on the 21st and ends at sunset on the 23rd the stars, planets, sun and moon will align to mirror the sign found in Revelation 12......

    What do you all think about this and do you believe this is significant.......

    A sign from the God of heaven to humanity?
    That's right. Right at the beginning of Genesis He says: "And let them be for signs and for seasons, and for days and years,

    With the word for seasons, (moed), also having the meaning of "appointed time".

    "And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars;

    But people are scared to confront these things. I do everyday, so I know that it's scary. I've got 40 tabs of bar graphs and date to date calculator results stacked up on my browser. I keep an eye out on the forums for threads like this. Because what you've noticed from Genesis should have sent all the theologians searching for anything to do with the mention of the sun and the moon and the stars. No matter if it matched their eschatological book or not.

    I believe that the Revelation 12 sign is significant. It adds a specific detail to the tetrads by marking out the last third of the prophetic time period that they had been signaling. Time will tell. We don't have long to wait. What I am seeing happens after the sign completes, after September. I'd rather not even mention September because I think we're in the zone where anything could happen at anytime. But after Jupiter leaves the body of Virgo it has a conjunction with Venus a couple of months latter. The two brightest objects pair up in our visible sky which will underscore Jupiter's presence. Will the Son of Man be revealed? From the time of that conjunction until the sun is "darkened" will mark out a third of a span of 1260 days.

    There's some other things that involves doctrine. I can count 1290 days to the "darkened" sun. I think that we are much further through Revelation than most scholars have figured out. Maybe not everything is like the theologians told us it would be. But if this is true, it might mean that the really bad part of the tribulation, the part that Jesus was talking about when He said: "for then there will be great tribulation", might only be 371 days long. Just exactly like it was in the days of Noah. After that conjunction, I can count 371 days until the sun is "darkened" and the moon will not give her light.

    That's what I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveWatchman View Post
    That's right. Right at the beginning of Genesis He says: "And let them be for signs and for seasons, and for days and years,

    With the word for seasons, (moed), also having the meaning of "appointed time".

    "And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars;

    But people are scared to confront these things. I do everyday, so I know that it's scary. I've got 40 tabs of bar graphs and date to date calculator results stacked up on my browser. I keep an eye out on the forums for threads like this. Because what you've noticed from Genesis should have sent all the theologians searching for anything to do with the mention of the sun and the moon and the stars. No matter if it matched their eschatological book or not.

    I believe that the Revelation 12 sign is significant. It adds a specific detail to the tetrads by marking out the last third of the prophetic time period that they had been signaling. Time will tell. We don't have long to wait. What I am seeing happens after the sign completes, after September. I'd rather not even mention September because I think we're in the zone where anything could happen at anytime. But after Jupiter leaves the body of Virgo it has a conjunction with Venus a couple of months latter. The two brightest objects pair up in our visible sky which will underscore Jupiter's presence. Will the Son of Man be revealed? From the time of that conjunction until the sun is "darkened" will mark out a third of a span of 1260 days.

    There's some other things that involves doctrine. I can count 1290 days to the "darkened" sun. I think that we are much further through Revelation than most scholars have figured out. Maybe not everything is like the theologians told us it would be. But if this is true, it might mean that the really bad part of the tribulation, the part that Jesus was talking about when He said: "for then there will be great tribulation", might only be 371 days long. Just exactly like it was in the days of Noah. After that conjunction, I can count 371 days until the sun is "darkened" and the moon will not give her light.

    That's what I think.
    Betcha you got all lathered up back in 2015 as well, huh?...how did that work out for your bar graphs?
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