Question?

[pickles]

This may seem like a silly question , but my neighbor claimed this, and I wanted to know if this is true, in the scriptures somewhere, or simply another false teaching.
I was told that there are sounds that one can hear that are of God. Not His voice but different sounds of Heaven that we can hear if granted by God.
It can be a wind like sound, a kind of music, or sound like the ocean.
I did see in revaations where the writer said he heard a kind of music from heaven. But I dont know if this applies.
So if those that are well verced could help me in this, I wonder because of the teachings that my neighbor follows.
Thankyou and God bless, pickles

 

[phil36]

Hi Pickles,

The first thing I think of is how God communicates to us. everything is done in a form we can understand.. and it is in Scriptures or through someone else etc.

You should have asked where in scripture your friend finds this? Revelations is slightly different for John was being given a revelation and had a special glimpse of heaven.

There are a lot of strange teachings appearing, and worse, Christians are starting to folow them... the signs and wonders crowd are just one group. our authority is in scripture.. we need Christians and churches to get back to scriptures and learn.. which has been seriously lacking the last 20 years because we are so concentrated on an easy believerism and easy message to try and fill the pews. whats wrong with telling the truth, Jesus certainly didnt shy away from telling what had to be told.

Anyhow, I think my point is that we all need toget back to scripture. you find alot of these belifs stem from Christian spiritualism that has gone to far, they trust feelings and emotions more than truth. Satan loves this.

Think I got side tracked there pickles but hopefully it might answer your question.

Phil

 

[wattie]

ya hearing sounds or noises that are meant to be from God.. how would you know for sure it was from God?

The heart is deceitful.. the mind is misleading.. our hearing can be faulty.. etc etc..

If it is subjective.. then it is no different that pagan beliefs-- where whatever you think is there.. normally is, or at least that is the way they think.

Objectively speaking Phil has it with the Bible being the authority.

What is the point of hearing from God through sounds and noises if we can already hear Him through scripture.. speaking into our lives personally that way?

For example.. you are feeling anxious and worrying about work .. and then read in Phillipians and see verses about being anxious for nothing.. applying those kinds of verses.. that is letting God work with you.. speak to you.

Eliminate all psychological, and extraneous factors.. then test to see what someone is saying or what you think you are experiencing is true.. and measure it up against the Word.

 

[Credo_ut_Intelligam]

He has a radio station: 105.9 wxlz.

 

[pickles]

Hi Pickles,

The first thing I think of is how God communicates to us. everything is done in a form we can understand.. and it is in Scriptures or through someone else etc.

You should have asked where in scripture your friend finds this? Revelations is slightly different for John was being given a revelation and had a special glimpse of heaven.

There are a lot of strange teachings appearing, and worse, Christians are starting to folow them... the signs and wonders crowd are just one group. our authority is in scripture.. we need Christians and churches to get back to scriptures and learn.. which has been seriously lacking the last 20 years because we are so concentrated on an easy believerism and easy message to try and fill the pews. whats wrong with telling the truth, Jesus certainly didnt shy away from telling what had to be told.

Anyhow, I think my point is that we all need toget back to scripture. you find alot of these belifs stem from Christian spiritualism that has gone to far, they trust feelings and emotions more than truth. Satan loves this.

Think I got side tracked there pickles but hopefully it might answer your question.

Phil

Thankyou phil, like I said this is from my neighbor. I have not seen anything in the scriptures myself but wanted to make sure that I wasnt missing something. I wanted to make sure as I hope in time to witness to this person about the dangerous teachings that they are forllowing. I believe that the
info on this comes from one of the buddest beliefs, they follow teachings that clump together all the profits and see Jesus as a spirit guide.
You and wattie hit the nail on the head when saying there are alot of strange teachings out there.
I hurts my heart so to see many choosing to follow these corrupt teachings.
The word is combined with profits to persent a (pure) as they call it, representation of God.
Trying to simply point out the coruption is not enough.
Please keep all in this in your prayers, many are being decieved by this.
Thankyou all for your help.
God bless, pickles

 

[charisenexcelcis]

It is possible, but uncommon for God to speak audibly in this world. I think what you neighbor is proposing is interesting speculation, perhaps worthy of some discussion, but not to be a distraction from the essentials. God speaks first through His Word. but He is able to speak in many other ways. "His sheep know His voice." Test what He says by scripture, but trust in His ability to speak to you.

 

[NodMyHeadLikeYeah]

I hear the Triangle is a popular instrument in heaven

 

[MaggieMye]

Actually, you will never find a triangle mentioned in the Bible or related to anything "Heaven".
Yes, we can hear sounds from heaven and smells smells as well. We can hear angels singing, the wind of the Holy Spirit, and so much more. Whenever scritpure talks about sound or any of the other senses, we can know that we also have access to those things BECAUSE we have access to the Thone of God because of Christ IN US. Does everyone prophetically or experiencially go there? No. And that is because most people do not pursue Him to that degree. And out of those that do, only some are truly persistant with doing so.
I've smelled the Lord's fragrence.....flowers when there were none present during a time of prayer. I've heard His voice, literally! when I was a very young Christian. All He said was "Help him". I heard it so literally that I looked to the passenger seat of my car to see who said it. No 'body' there, but two more times I heard it and when I obeyed, I discoverd that the man I was to help had just had a double by-pass and was not to be doing the snow shoveling that he was doing.
We have to choose to listen for the sounds...to believe the smells and to trust that He will bring nothing to us that is not of Him. He wants us to ask for these things because it is a way of getting closer to Him and knowing Him and His kingdom.
Patricia King, James Goll, Ana Mendez, Emerson Ferrell, and Bill Johnson all teach on the validity of these tihngs. If you doubt, you do not believe and if you do not believe, you cannot enter the Kingdom to know these things.
Maggie

 

[mpaper345]

She sounds like she is from the Eckankar religion.

Everything that God does has a purpose,and if God does not talk to you directly by His voice,why would you be able to hear Him in any other sound,for He would not be trying to communicate with you by any other sound,for their would be no purpose for it,and how would you know it is from God,when he did not tell you directly.

It is only something that someone made up,that you can hear God by different sounds,because how do they know it is from God,when God did not tell them directly,and there would be no purpose to hear God by different sounds,for how would you know what He is trying to communicate.

God only talks to us by His Spirit and not different sounds.

Matt

 

[MaggieMye]

Pickles....why don't you post my response to the pm that you sent to me. Matt is talking circles and making absolutely no sense.

Maggie

 

[pickles]

Pickles....why don't you post my response to the pm that you sent to me. Matt is talking circles and making absolutely no sense.

Maggie

Ill try but I still do not know how to paste and copy.
Ill see if my son will help me later. Im going to check out the info you gave me because it may be even more informitive.
I cannot help but consider the fact that everything is Gods creation, even that which we wonder about that has no explanation that we know. It only becomes evil when it is used by satan for evils gain.
I do know that all when given to God Our Father in Jesus that it will glorify him.
It will be a good work to understand this as it is important to bring the truth in Jesus Our Lord.
God bless, pickles

 

[pickles]

She sounds like she is from the Eckankar religion.

Everything that God does has a purpose,and if God does not talk to you directly by His voice,why would you be able to hear Him in any other sound,for He would not be trying to communicate with you by any other sound,for their would be no purpose for it,and how would you know it is from God,when he did not tell you directly.

It is only something that someone made up,that you can hear God by different sounds,because how do they know it is from God,when God did not tell them directly,and there would be no purpose to hear God by different sounds,for how would you know what He is trying to communicate.

God only talks to us by His Spirit and not different sounds.

Matt

Although I agree ,as to my neighbor presents these sounds ,is reprasenting evil, I stiil feel it is important to seek the truth in this. There are several refrances to sound in the scriptures. Now, if this applies to our walk in Jesus now? I think it is important to find out. If Only to be able to show my neighbor the folly of their choices.
So I will continue to search in Jesus Christ Our Lord!
I will test all spirits matt, there is only Jesus for me. Thankyou for your caution.
God bless, pickles

 

[MaggieMye]

Pickles...you think I sound Ekankar???

Here's what I wrote to you via pm:
There are many scriptures that deal with sound. I suggest you go to www.biblegateway.com and click on "Keyword search", then type in words like "sound", "wind", "music", "singing", or whatever else Holy Spirit brings to your mind. And while not ALL of the verses that come up will be relevant to 'heavenly' sounds, some will. And that should help you gain a better understaind of these things.

Also, WHEN you hear the sounds, purpose to get quiet so you can focus. First try to discern if the sound IS a heavenly sound or if there is a natural cause for it. If you can find no natural cause, the begin to seek the Lord on what it is that He wants you to see, hear, know or do.

Also, understand that there are far too many people out there that do NOT understand these things....these sounds, smells, etc can and do come from Heaven. They've been taught that it was only for Bible times, not for us. But those that KNOW Him, know that He is not a respector of persons and that it is PLEASURE to share with us the element of Heaven that make Heaven HEAVEN!

IMO...a constant hearing of wind is one way that the Father might show us that Holy Spirit is constantly with us....guiding us, empowering us, directing us.
Maggie "
And yes, IF YOU HAVE EARS TO HEAR, you can also hear sounds from the demonic realm. That means your 'antenna' is tuned to the wrong channel....more or less.
Maggie

 

[imoss]

NOOO... Pickles didnt post that MPaper did. Now I must go google ecankar...

 

[NodMyHeadLikeYeah]

DING!!!

 

[pickles]

Pickles...you think I sound Ekankar???

Here's what I wrote to you via pm:
There are many scriptures that deal with sound. I suggest you go to www.biblegateway.com and click on "Keyword search", then type in words like "sound", "wind", "music", "singing", or whatever else Holy Spirit brings to your mind. And while not ALL of the verses that come up will be relevant to 'heavenly' sounds, some will. And that should help you gain a better understaind of these things.

Also, WHEN you hear the sounds, purpose to get quiet so you can focus. First try to discern if the sound IS a heavenly sound or if there is a natural cause for it. If you can find no natural cause, the begin to seek the Lord on what it is that He wants you to see, hear, know or do.

Also, understand that there are far too many people out there that do NOT understand these things....these sounds, smells, etc can and do come from Heaven. They've been taught that it was only for Bible times, not for us. But those that KNOW Him, know that He is not a respector of persons and that it is PLEASURE to share with us the element of Heaven that make Heaven HEAVEN!

IMO...a constant hearing of wind is one way that the Father might show us that Holy Spirit is constantly with us....guiding us, empowering us, directing us.
Maggie "
And yes, IF YOU HAVE EARS TO HEAR, you can also hear sounds from the demonic realm. That means your 'antenna' is tuned to the wrong channel....more or less.
Maggie

Yikes maggie, never would I think you are ekenkar, I was refuring to my neighbor.
Thanks for showing the post here.
God bless, pickles

 

[lighthousejohn]

Pickles...you think I sound Ekankar???

Here's what I wrote to you via pm:
There are many scriptures that deal with sound. I suggest you go to www.biblegateway.com and click on "Keyword search", then type in words like "sound", "wind", "music", "singing", or whatever else Holy Spirit brings to your mind. And while not ALL of the verses that come up will be relevant to 'heavenly' sounds, some will. And that should help you gain a better understaind of these things.

Also, WHEN you hear the sounds, purpose to get quiet so you can focus. First try to discern if the sound IS a heavenly sound or if there is a natural cause for it. If you can find no natural cause, the begin to seek the Lord on what it is that He wants you to see, hear, know or do.

Also, understand that there are far too many people out there that do NOT understand these things....these sounds, smells, etc can and do come from Heaven. They've been taught that it was only for Bible times, not for us. But those that KNOW Him, know that He is not a respector of persons and that it is PLEASURE to share with us the element of Heaven that make Heaven HEAVEN!

IMO...a constant hearing of wind is one way that the Father might show us that Holy Spirit is constantly with us....guiding us, empowering us, directing us.
Maggie "
And yes, IF YOU HAVE EARS TO HEAR, you can also hear sounds from the demonic realm. That means your 'antenna' is tuned to the wrong channel....more or less.
Maggie

There is a verse in Hebrews that may add a biblical twist to this discussion. I offer it for that purpose in four translations for the purpose of comparison.

Hebrews 5:14
ESV: 14But solid food is for the mature, for those who have their powers of discernment trained by constant practice to distinguish good from evil.

NKJV: 14 But solid food belongs to those who are of full age, that is, those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

NIV: 14But solid food is for the mature, who by constant use have trained themselves to distinguish good from evil.

KJV: 14But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

In Christ,
John

 

[lighthousejohn]

This may seem like a silly question , but my neighbor claimed this, and I wanted to know if this is true, in the scriptures somewhere, or simply another false teaching.
I was told that there are sounds that one can hear that are of God. Not His voice but different sounds of Heaven that we can hear if granted by God.
It can be a wind like sound, a kind of music, or sound like the ocean.
I did see in revaations where the writer said he heard a kind of music from heaven. But I dont know if this applies.
So if those that are well verced could help me in this, I wonder because of the teachings that my neighbor follows.
Thankyou and God bless, pickles

Pickles,

About five years ago, there were 5 of us who were gathered for prayer. We were not of any one church or denomination. Our morning prayer and bible study was open to all believers and seekers. The 5 that were there that morning were all strong believers and dedicated to our individual prayer lives. After several minutes of us praying in concert (all at the same time, yet individually and independently), we all stopped praying at the same time because we all heard a sound that we could only describe as "heavenly". It was the most beautiful sound that any of us had ever heard. We were in awe at how beautiful it was. Unfortunately, it stopped when a prideful pastor came in and boldly proclaimed that we could get started because he was there.

I have never heard anything like that before or since. I choose to believe that the sound was "as angels singing over us" because of our lack of pride and our total submission to the lead of the Holy Spirit. It was our desire to seek God's presence without agenda that triggered this blessing.

In Christ,
John

 

[MaggieMye]

LighthouseJohn: VERY COOL!! You have been blessed!!

NodMyHeadLikeYeah: posting a picture of a triangular rythym precision instrument does not mean it was used during Biblical times. If you do the research, you will discover that triangles did not come into use until around the 14th century.
People have studied to learn that nowhere in scripture were triangles ever used....not in the buildings, not in music, nowhere. If fact...it is the occult that uses triangles. But that is for a different thread.
Maggie

 

[machew]

Hi Pickles,

The first thing I think of is how God communicates to us. everything is done in a form we can understand.. and it is in Scriptures or through someone else etc.

I have to disagree with this. God will sometimes speak to you in a way you don't understand. Jesus displayed this when he spoke in parables to intentionally hide truth from some of the people listening. Some truth is not readily given to believers because they are not ready to steward this truth correctly. God often speaks in ways that only the hungry and thirsty for Him will hear.

Proverbs 25:2(NASB)

2It is the glory of God to conceal a matter,
But the glory of kings is to search out a matter.

What is the implication? Only kings in His Kingdom will understand the deeper truths of God. The parable of the talents is a good example of how God desires only to give to someone what they are capable of correctly stewarding.

I agree that many people need to get back to studying the scriptures, but I also think that people need to position and prepare their hearts to a place where they are willing to say Yes to God regardless of what they are reading in the Bible. Too often we read the Bible and read only what we want it to say. I think the bigger problem is an issue of the heart in the Body of Christ.

Blessings,

Machew