homosexuality is it a sin?

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Apr 23, 2017
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of course it is its very obvious................ why question this clear thing in the bible come on mon'
 
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sevenseas

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guess what im trying to get at is ......that its not a inherit from the fall but has its beginning from somethig else.

I think I understand what you are asking and if I do, would not Romans chapter 1 give an answer?

like this:

18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.
21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.
24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another.25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised.Amen.
26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done.

when I read the above, I get the impression that they were 'given over' to a depraved mind BECAUSE they refuse to acknowledge God

which, I know, puts a spin on practicing homosexuals who believe they are Christians.

so obviously Adam and Eve acknowledged God even right after they sinned by disobedience but as history progresses, people fall away and shake their fists in God's face instead

it's like if a Christian commits some sin and then continues in that sin, they begin to think a little differently and question what God said

 
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sevenseas

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#43
going back, I see Matt gave the same answer

I do think this is the answer
 

J7

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#44
guess what im trying to get at is ......that its not a inherit from the fall but has its beginning from somethig else.

Well what you say makes a lot of sense.

It was in Adam's nature to get hot and bothered about Eve.
Adam is natural man.

Steve is not......
 
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yes--yes--yes--yes--yes--yes--yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

blue_ladybug

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#46
I probably already said this, but it's a no-brainer that even an idiot can answer..

The answer to the title question should be fairly obvious. Men weren't meant for sex with each other, nor women for each other..
 
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In my opinion, Homosexuality is a sin because sex is with a Married spouse to Reproduce. Biologically, two people of the same gender cannot reproduce, so they are choosing to have sex for pleasure versus the whole intention. That's the way I look at it, let me know if you have any input
Soooo, if you're married, sex is out after menopause? And, if'n sterility is in the picture, even before that?

(Sometimes, I feel like a dirty old woman on here, just because... well, yeah! Sex is quite pleasurable.)

 
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I probably already said this, but it's a no-brainer that even an idiot can answer..

The answer to the title question should be fairly obvious. Men weren't meant for sex with each other, nor women for each other..
well this is the idiot you cat hugger. I know your a paws and claws kind of girl so lets do this.

my concerns go beyond the sexual imorality and depravity of the actions. The true gay person has affections for the same sex only. I do not buy into the bi-sexual person being gay nor the so called flamer that dressses up as a female . but the true gay person is not attracted to the opposite sex for romance sake. I do see a demonic influence in such behavior which could be why its referred as un natural..
I do beleive with peer pressure and young adults could be hoodwinked into this life style as well for attention and exceptance.
To understand our enemies devices we can reveal the weak link in the chain and aim our prayers there.
jesus knew the origins of why people did what they did and adressed theses issues which helped open up a heart felt conversation.
Sometimes if we have a bit of insight of cause and effect we will be better prepared to deal with situations. Jesus was the king of opening up dialog which broke down the walls of condemnation.
 
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you can see if they left for another spouse in the natural but ....for the same sex...after that many yrs?
if those people were naive enough to think they just left after10 & 23 years they need their heads examined...it is a fact that if they started looking at things closer they would see that same sex affairs were happening right under the noses.
 
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1 Corinthians 6:9-10 answers it perfectly:

Or do you not know that the unrighteous[a] will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,[b]10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.


The kingdom of God is not the kingdom of heaven...
 
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How can angels mate with human beings?
why would you suggest given in marriage must translate to sexual intercourse?

Many try to make that leap only to defend false teaching on Gen 6.1-4
 
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Dagallen

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I knew a man that left his wife and two kids after 23 yrs of marriage to live and marry a man.....I know a woman that left her husband after 10 yrs to marry a woman. now tell me that the sexual needs were not ment in the natural...but yet they persued the unnatural.....no matter the cost..
If you believe that God is real and if you believe the Prince of light is real and the Prince of darkness is real and if you believe the Prince of light took on earthy flesh, then and only then, can you find the answer to this question.
 

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In my opinion, Homosexuality is a sin because sex is with a Married spouse to Reproduce. Biologically, two people of the same gender cannot reproduce, so they are choosing to have sex for pleasure versus the whole intention. That's the way I look at it, let me know if you have any input
My wife and I were married at 59 and I can assure you that there will be no biological reproduction from us. So you are saying that sex for pleasure is a bad thing even in marriage?
 
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Dagallen

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Sex is not for just reproduction, study how the physical body works, that one might understand that sex is very healthy to the physical body.
 

graceNpeace

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Sex is not for just reproduction, study how the physical body works, that one might understand that sex is very healthy to the physical body.
No question!

However, it is primarily about reproduction.
The issue was raised in the context of homosexuality being described as unnatural in the Bible.
The reason why it is unnatural is that primary purpose of sex is not attainable.

In a marriage sex is very important for a lot of reasons - not just for reproduction.
I think any reasonable person would agree with this.
All the secondary reasons for sex in a marriage are important and valid.
But the point is also that the primary reason for sex is also valid.
 
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Dagallen

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No question!

However, it is primarily about reproduction.
The issue was raised in the context of homosexuality being described as unnatural in the Bible.
The reason why it is unnatural is that primary purpose of sex is not attainable.

In a marriage sex is very important for a lot of reasons - not just for reproduction.
I think any reasonable person would agree with this.
All the secondary reasons for sex in a marriage are important and valid.
But the point is also that the primary reason for sex is also valid.
Your point is well taken, so what would be the benefits of having sex within a marriage, if you eliminated reproduction desires ?
 

graceNpeace

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Your point is well taken, so what would be the benefits of having sex within a marriage, if you eliminated reproduction desires ?
Nearly all marriages result in children eventually.
This is an important consideration.
For any child to grow up in a stable environment an intact and happy partnership between his/her parents is crucial.
Sex is a significant, but not the sole, contributor to this intact and happy partnership.
This is not only a day-to-day thing but it is necessary for the long-term success of that partnership.
The benefits to the parents have significantly positive consequences for the child/children.

I understand that some couples marry when children are not possible (a lot of reasons are possible).
Nevertheless, because of the long-term nature of the relationship desired the pattern that develops is normally very similar to relationships where children are in the picture, and may even be more intense, since one's emotions and energy are not diluted through several family members.
 
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Nearly all marriages result in children eventually.
This is an important consideration.
For any child to grow up in a stable environment an intact and happy partnership between his/her parents is crucial.
Sex is a significant, but not the sole, contributor to this intact and happy partnership.
This is not only a day-to-day thing but it is necessary for the long-term success of that partnership.
The benefits to the parents have significantly positive consequences for the child/children.

I understand that some couples marry when children are not possible (a lot of reasons are possible).
Nevertheless, because of the long-term nature of the relationship desired the pattern that develops is normally very similar to relationships where children are in the picture, and may even be more intense, since one's emotions and energy are not diluted through several family members.
The benefit of having sex, it's when the brain releases it's highest level of Dopamine, a low level of Dopamine leads to most of our worst nightmares, a low level of Dopamine can ever lead to death, more often than one might believe. It controls the brains control center and physical health, without Dopamine we would die.low Dopamine leads to, lack of motivation, swings moods, loss of memory, attention deficit disorder, bipolar, Parkinson's and even death, as sex plays a much bigger part, than one might understand, it is needed in order to survive. Therefore the physical exchange stimulates the brain, then releases it's largest level of Dopamine into the body, it's not the sex itself, people are addicted to, it's the high level of Dopamine that is released, that is healthy and needed to stay healthy and alive, it bring joy and happiness into our lives, that we might live life to it's fullest.