homosexuality is it a sin?

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Dagallen

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graceNpeace said:
Nearly all marriages result in children eventually.
This is an important consideration.
For any child to grow up in a stable environment an intact and happy partnership between his/her parents is crucial.
Sex is a significant, but not the sole, contributor to this intact and happy partnership.
This is not only a day-to-day thing but it is necessary for the long-term success of that partnership.
The benefits to the parents have significantly positive consequences for the child/children.

I understand that some couples marry when children are not possible (a lot of reasons are possible).
Nevertheless, because of the long-term nature of the relationship desired the pattern that develops is normally very similar to relationships where children are in the picture, and may even be more intense, since one's emotions and energy are not diluted through several family members.
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The benefit of having sex, it's when the brain releases it's highest level of Dopamine, a low level of Dopamine leads to most of our worst nightmares, a low level of Dopamine can ever lead to death, more often than one might believe. It controls the brains control center and physical health, without Dopamine we would die.low Dopamine leads to, lack of motivation, swings moods, loss of memory, attention deficit disorder, bipolar, Parkinson's and even death, as sex plays a much bigger part, than one might understand, it is needed in order to survive. Therefore the physical exchange stimulates the brain, then releases it's largest level of Dopamine into the body, it's not the sex itself, people are addicted to, it's the high level of Dopamine that is released, that is healthy and needed to stay healthy and alive, it bring joy and happiness into our lives, that we might live life to it's fullest.
 
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graceNpeace

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Dagallen said:
The benefit of having sex, it's when the brain releases it's highest level of Dopamine, a low level of Dopamine leads to most of our worst nightmares, a low level of Dopamine can ever lead to death, more often than one might believe. It controls the brains control center and physical health, without Dopamine we would die.low Dopamine leads to, lack of motivation, swings moods, loss of memory, attention deficit disorder, bipolar, Parkinson's and even death, as sex plays a much bigger part, than one might understand, it is needed in order to survive. Therefore the physical exchange stimulates the brain, then releases it's largest level of Dopamine into the body, it's not the sex itself, people are addicted to, it's the high level of Dopamine that is released, that is healthy and needed to stay healthy and alive, it bring joy and happiness into our lives, that we might live life to it's fullest.
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I understand all the physiology - but I was not going to go there - causes too much confusion.
 
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Dagallen

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graceNpeace said:
I understand all the physiology - but I was not going to go there - causes too much confusion.
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I know it causes confusion most of the time but it shouldn't, if one believes God created mankind, then one should study what God created and how great of a creation we really are and how the body works, that we might live life to it fullest, I don't believe the body was crested to die but yet it still does die, what went wrong or what did mankind do, that the body will see death ? All that God created was good and yet death awaits us all.
 
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Uh oh, got problems than. We are both broken physically, so sex is an issue. We are both happy though, as we both accept each other. I wonder though, I restrained from being sexual for many years before I wedded my hubby. Yet, doctors said I was extremely health, and I held 4 jobs. People said I made them tired just from watching me. Mood swings not an issue...so I don't know how true this information is for me at least!
 
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Dagallen

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Uh oh, got problems than. We are both broken physically, so sex is an issue. We are both happy though, as we both accept each other. I wonder though, I restrained from being sexual for many years before I wedded my hubby. Yet, doctors said I was extremely health, and I held 4 jobs. People said I made them tired just from watching me. Mood swings not an issue...so I don't know how true this information is for me at least!
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Some people have a higher level of Dopamine because of what they eat, as food plays a big part as well, some who have low levels of Dopamine use man made meds to replace low level of Dopamine which the body becomes addicted to, when that happens, the body depends on the meds, the body then produces less Dopamine. So what happens when the Dopamine level is to low and a person can't get any replacement meds ? You die. I don't use meds for anything, I eat healthy foodsvand my Dopamine level is very high, I am 61 years old and I work 1 full time job and 2 part time jobs and I can keep up with 30 year old, therefore my Dopamine level is high but having a high of Dopamine is not enough, I have to finds ways to stimulate the brain, so it releases a higher level into the body. High levels of Dopamine must be there but stimulation must take place as well, sex is not the only stimulator but it is by far the greater stimulator known to mankind.
 
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pottersclay

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Dagallen said:
Some people have a higher level of Dopamine because of what they eat, as food plays a big part as well, some who have low levels of Dopamine use man made meds to replace low level of Dopamine which the body becomes addicted to, when that happens, the body depends on the meds, the body then produces less Dopamine. So what happens when the Dopamine level is to low and a person can't get any replacement meds ? You die. I don't use meds for anything, I eat healthy foodsvand my Dopamine level is very high, I am 61 years old and I work 1 full time job and 2 part time jobs and I can keep up with 30 year old, therefore my Dopamine level is high but having a high of Dopamine is not enough, I have to finds ways to stimulate the brain, so it releases a higher level into the body. High levels of Dopamine must be there but stimulation must take place as well, sex is not the only stimulator but it is by far the greater stimulator known to mankind.
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love the input brother, what is your take on the reason of homosexuality? same sex attraction is not found as far as we know throughout creation.
 
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graceNpeace

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pottersclay said:
love the input brother, what is your take on the reason of homosexuality? same sex attraction is not found as far as we know throughout creation.
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That is not entirely true!
I have seen apes and monkeys indulging themselves this way.
Also, I have witnessed a male African Elephant mount another male elephant.
The elephant episode is apparently a rare occurrence but the monkeys do this all the time.
 
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Dagallen

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pottersclay said:
love the input brother, what is your take on the reason of homosexuality? same sex attraction is not found as far as we know throughout creation.
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I believe that it is natural for a man and a woman to be together, I believe it is unnatural for a man to have sex with a man, I believe it is unnatural for woman to have sex with a woman. However, when a man has sex with a man or a woman has sex with a woman, it's not the same sex they are drawn to, it's the desire for a higher level of Dopamine they desire but I believe there had to have been something greater that took place, that triggered or brought this change about, I believe the change came about in early history, I believe it was to inter fear with the blood line of God, to prevent the Savor from coming into flesh, which appears to have been, because of what took place in the garden of Eden. I believe many were and still are being deceived.
 
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graceNpeace said:
Nearly all marriages result in children eventually.
This is an important consideration.
For any child to grow up in a stable environment an intact and happy partnership between his/her parents is crucial.
Sex is a significant, but not the sole, contributor to this intact and happy partnership.
This is not only a day-to-day thing but it is necessary for the long-term success of that partnership.
The benefits to the parents have significantly positive consequences for the child/children.

I understand that some couples marry when children are not possible (a lot of reasons are possible).
Nevertheless, because of the long-term nature of the relationship desired the pattern that develops is normally very similar to relationships where children are in the picture, and may even be more intense, since one's emotions and energy are not diluted through several family members.
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Given 47% of women have children, I question your "Nearly all marriages result in children eventually."
 
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Dagallen said:
The benefit of having sex, it's when the brain releases it's highest level of Dopamine, a low level of Dopamine leads to most of our worst nightmares, a low level of Dopamine can ever lead to death, more often than one might believe. It controls the brains control center and physical health, without Dopamine we would die.low Dopamine leads to, lack of motivation, swings moods, loss of memory, attention deficit disorder, bipolar, Parkinson's and even death, as sex plays a much bigger part, than one might understand, it is needed in order to survive. Therefore the physical exchange stimulates the brain, then releases it's largest level of Dopamine into the body, it's not the sex itself, people are addicted to, it's the high level of Dopamine that is released, that is healthy and needed to stay healthy and alive, it bring joy and happiness into our lives, that we might live life to it's fullest.
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Remind me never to talk about the joys of chocolate or the joys writing around you. I suspect by the time you're done explaining why, I will lose the simple joy all together.
 
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Read Romans 1:26&27, and then you tell me.
 
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pottersclay

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Dagallen said:
I believe that it is natural for a man and a woman to be together, I believe it is unnatural for a man to have sex with a man, I believe it is unnatural for woman to have sex with a woman. However, when a man has sex with a man or a woman has sex with a woman, it's not the same sex they are drawn to, it's the desire for a higher level of Dopamine they desire but I believe there had to have been something greater that took place, that triggered or brought this change about, I believe the change came about in early history, I believe it was to inter fear with the blood line of God, to prevent the Savor from coming into flesh, which appears to have been, because of what took place in the garden of Eden. I believe many were and still are being deceived.
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thats where im at....very intresting prospect...more than just a moral condition. more than just a so called common sin. so you point towards demonic intervension?
 
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we all know what it says in the OT but what about in the NT and Jesus having said it.... Try out Matther 19:4-6

"4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.




 
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graceNpeace

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Given 47% of women have children, I question your "Nearly all marriages result in children eventually."
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This figure:
Is it from the USA currently;
A global figure; or
Something historical?

I know full well the challenges in getting pregnant (even if we exclude contraceptive use), I do happen to be a physician.
That does not exclude intent.
 
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Dagallen

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pottersclay said:
thats where im at....very intresting prospect...more than just a moral condition. more than just a so called common sin. so you point towards demonic intervension?
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Something demonic very well could have been the cause but I believe choice most likely played a big part, a choice of what was bad, I guess one could call it a demonic act.
 
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Remind me never to talk about the joys of chocolate or the joys writing around you. I suspect by the time you're done explaining why, I will lose the simple joy all together.
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Nothing wrong with eating chocolate, eat all you want if it helps.
 
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CaptainGoat

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Puzzled... Chocolate can cause homosexuality? Or is is they eat chocolate?
 
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pottersclay

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Something demonic very well could have been the cause but I believe choice most likely played a big part, a choice of what was bad, I guess one could call it a demonic act.
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The interviews ive seen most said they had no choice that their sexual prefrence was at birth and if they did not acknowledge it as such the thoughts of suicide and depression were over whelming.
This is the core of this thread. could it be a demonic attack since evidence of a physical or mental defect has all but been ruled out.
When we sin we have a tendency to hide it, The gay coummunity flants it . They are now knocking on the churches door for acceptance (unusual).
Trying to fit into society as the norm. jesus brings up the days of lot in end time signs and wonders.

Might as well put it out there . History has it that herod was homosexual. Herod was the only one jesus never spoke to or replied back to.
Im sure there are many teachings that could explain this and i probably will eat crow but i use this just as a observation.

Let it be known that i am not saying Gods grace and mercy is not for everyone but we need to understand in order to make a stand.
 
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