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Enow

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This thread is for non tongue speakers to be free to edify one another and sharing short videos exposing tongues without interpretation which is also not being understood by a foreigner as not of the Lord.

I just think that a thread should be provided so that tongue speakers will not feel victimized as we share videos and criticize the videos in according to His words or add to the video, edification so that those whom are on the fence about that kind of tongue, the Lord may help them not to seek after it, but after the gift of prophesy instead as Paul instructed.

1 Corinthians 14:1Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that ye may prophesy.....[SUP]20 [/SUP]Brethren, be not children in understanding: howbeit in malice be ye children, but in understanding be men.[SUP]21 [/SUP]In the law it is written, With men of other tongues and other lips will I speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not hear me, saith the Lord. [SUP]22 [/SUP]Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe.
The devil's tongues which is vain & profane babbling existed in the world before Pentecost; therefore since we are to prove all things and abstain from all appearances of evil, God's gift of tongues can never be just vain & profane babbling.

1 Thessalonians 5:[SUP]21 [/SUP]Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.[SUP]22 [/SUP]Abstain from all appearance of evil.

Isaiah 8:[SUP]19 [/SUP]And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their God? for the living to the dead?

Here is a short video of a fellow believer reproving vain tongue speakers for using Mark 16:17-18 for that kind of tongue.

I point out though that he should have clarified that no one is to test the Lord our God by that reference of Mark 16:17-18 as Paul did not do that when he was attacked by a viper in that other reference that the guy talked about in reproving using Mark 16:17-18 in that way.

[video=youtube;eRVomV3PgOw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRVomV3PgOw[/video]

To add to this video... he had referred to Revelation 13:13, but I would point out the warning to the church at Thyatira as speaking in tongues without interpretation as speaking the utter depths of Satan for which they speak.

Revelation 2:[SUP]18 [/SUP]And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass;[SUP] 19 [/SUP]I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first.[SUP] 20 [/SUP]Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.[SUP] 21 [/SUP]And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.[SUP] 22 [/SUP]Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.[SUP]23 [/SUP]And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.[SUP]24 [/SUP]But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.[SUP]25 [/SUP]But that which ye have already hold fast till I come.

If any of you like to share a short video from Youtube to expose that kind of tongues as not of the Lord, feel free to do so.

You can even share a video by a vain tongue speaker to reprove it by commentary with scripture if you prefer.

I can't stop those who defend tongues from replying, but I thought it would be nice to have just a thread where tongue speakers do not feel like they are being victimized for having that kind of tongue to avoid this thread altogether.

I believe in God's gift of tongues to speak unto the people, but all believers when zealous for spiritual gifts, are to seek the gift of prophesy which is to edify the body of believers in your normal tongue. Seek that instead of tongues.
 

mcubed

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I speak in tongues but Paul says these are the least of the gifts. No brother or sister should ever feel victimized, I am sorry that has happened to you. G-d gives gifts as He chooses. The eye cannot say to the hand, "I don't need you!" And the head cannot say to the feet, "I don't need you!".... There are many gifts I do not have, some I do. All of us make up the body, with the gifts G-d has given us, and that is what makes us whole!
 

Enow

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Here is another short video where tongues without interpretation has pagans' origin as one of the 10 shocking facts about speaking in tongues that is just vain & profane babbling. This is for any on the fence about which gift to seek after as I hope you will seek after the gift of prophesy as Paul had instructed any that are zealous for spiritual gifts.

1 Corinthians 14:1Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that ye may prophesy.....[SUP]20 [/SUP]Brethren, be not children in understanding: howbeit in malice be ye children, but in understanding be men.[SUP]21 [/SUP]In the law it is written, With men of other tongues and other lips will I speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not hear me, saith the Lord. [SUP]22 [/SUP]Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe.

Do ask Jesus Christ for that gift at that throne of grace as only He can answer prayers.

John 14:[SUP]6 [/SUP]Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.....[SUP]13 [/SUP]And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.[SUP]14 [/SUP]If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

[video=youtube;SqCMDRBissI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqCMDRBissI[/video]
 

Enow

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I speak in tongues but Paul says these are the least of the gifts. No brother or sister should ever feel victimized, I am sorry that has happened to you. G-d gives gifts as He chooses. The eye cannot say to the hand, "I don't need you!" And the head cannot say to the feet, "I don't need you!".... There are many gifts I do not have, some I do. All of us make up the body, with the gifts G-d has given us, and that is what makes us whole!
When tongues comes with interpretation, yes. Otherwise there is a thread about the benefits of speaking in tongues without interpretation, and they might as well say to non tongue speakers that they do not need us at all.
 

shrume

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Enow, you will have no trouble finding plenty of videos "debunking" speaking in tongues. And there are dozens, if not hundreds, showing people being "slain in the spirit", "holy laughter", "spiritually drunk", falling down, etc.

My guess is that you'll find far fewer, if any, supporting what you believe, that tongues with interpretation is ok, but tongues without interpretation is not ok. By far most of them denounce tongues completely, or portray any speaking in tongues negatively.

If nothing else, this thread should be entertaining.
 

shrume

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When tongues comes with interpretation, yes. Otherwise there is a thread about the benefits of speaking in tongues without interpretation, and they might as well say to non tongue speakers that they do not need us at all.
You alienate yourself.

The church needs you, but it does not need your false beliefs about tongues.
 

mcubed

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When tongues comes with interpretation, yes. Otherwise there is a thread about the benefits of speaking in tongues without interpretation, and they might as well say to non tongue speakers that they do not need us at all.

Can G-d give the interpretation, if He so chooses, if a person speaks in tongues in their private prayers?
 
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Enow, you will have no trouble finding plenty of videos "debunking" speaking in tongues. And there are dozens, if not hundreds, showing people being "slain in the spirit", "holy laughter", "spiritually drunk", falling down, etc.

My guess is that you'll find far fewer, if any, supporting what you believe, that tongues with interpretation is ok, but tongues without interpretation is not ok. By far most of them denounce tongues completely, or portray any speaking in tongues negatively.

If nothing else, this thread should be entertaining.
This thread is nothing but the work of the adversary. Attributing the work of God via the gift of holy spirit to Satan. I am also sure that he will have no trouble finding negative videos - Satan's main work is to destroy the word of God and the things of God.

Before when I said I answered post peaceably when I can . . . well, this one has made me righteously angry!
 

shrume

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This thread is nothing but the work of the adversary. Attributing the work of God via the gift of holy spirit to Satan. I am also sure that he will have no trouble finding negative videos - Satan's main work is to destroy the word of God and the things of God.

Before when I said I answered post peaceably when I can . . . well, this one has made me righteously angry!
Enow simply has no idea what he is doing.
 
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This thread is nothing but the work of the adversary. Attributing the work of God via the gift of holy spirit to Satan. I am also sure that he will have no trouble finding negative videos - Satan's main work is to destroy the word of God and the things of God.

Before when I said I answered post peaceably when I can . . . well, this one has made me righteously angry!
Are you saying that ALL "tongues" are from the spirit?
Including when it is done disorderly, many at a time, interrupting each other, seemingly competing who can do the most, the loudest, the fastest?
 

shrume

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Are you saying that ALL "tongues" are from the spirit?
Including when it is done disorderly, many at a time, interrupting each other, seemingly competing who can do the most, the loudest, the fastest?
Often, the tongues is genuine.

The way they are doing it is wrong. See 1 Cor 14. Paul specifically addresses your concerns and gives instruction on how tongues is to be used in the church.
 
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This is how I feel about tongues:

[27] If any speak in a tongue, let there be only two or at most three, and each in turn; and let one interpret.
[28] But if there is no one to interpret, let each of them keep silence in church and speak to himself and to God. 1 Cor 14:27-28 RSV
 
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Enow, you will have no trouble finding plenty of videos "debunking" speaking in tongues. And there are dozens, if not hundreds, showing people being "slain in the spirit", "holy laughter", "spiritually drunk", falling down, etc.

My guess is that you'll find far fewer, if any, supporting what you believe, that tongues with interpretation is ok, but tongues without interpretation is not ok. By far most of them denounce tongues completely, or portray any speaking in tongues negatively.

If nothing else, this thread should be entertaining.
Perhaps somebody or maybe you yourself know of a video portraying authentic tongues ? Surely there has to be one somewhere given all the proclaimed genuine practicers of tongues these days ?
 
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kaylagrl

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So Im confused enow,do you believe in tongues or do you not? Could you be a little clearer,thanks.
 
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UnderGrace

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What I am trying to figure out is why those who think they are speaking in biblical tongues came to this thread?:)
 

tourist

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Sorry, I'm not interested in these videos. From my understanding of scripture the ability to speak in tongues is one of the gifts that God gives to certain individuals but it is of no value to anyone unless there is someone there with the gift of interpretation. Speaking in tongues is not one of the gifts that God has given me and personally I have no opinion one way or another on this topic. Truthfully, I don't find participating in banter back and forth on the pros and cons of speaking in tongues to be edifying for myself.
 

John146

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Can G-d give the interpretation, if He so chooses, if a person speaks in tongues in their private prayers?
Why wouldn't I just pray in my language? What benefit would it be to pray in a different language?
 
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Why wouldn't I just pray in my language? What benefit would it be to pray in a different language?

They say because it is more spiritual since it is a direct connection to the Holy Spirit because it is the language of angels.

But what I want to know is if I am not an angel why do I need an angelic language to speak to God? Then I cannot even understand what I am saying.

It seems God has a two tiered system for prayer then, some of us, use our native tongue, for some reason other people God then gives other people this gift of praying with the language of angels.

Is this really what Paul was instructing?
 
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Dagallen

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No one has a gift of speaking an angel language.
 
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kaylagrl

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I believe it is taken from the following Scripture,praying in tongues that is,


Romans 8 -
Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.


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1 Cor.-
For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to people but to God. Indeed, no one understands them; they utter mysteries by the Spirit.





 
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