Not all who are filled with the Holy Spirit have the truth.
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This is one of the classic problems of interpretation.
It all hinges on the meaning of this sentence
"Terah lived seventy years, and became the father of Abram, Nahor and Haran."
Gen 11:26
If this means Terah became a father aged 70, and his sons are Abram, Nahor and Haran.
It makes sense when they moved to Haran everyone went with them.
Equally when they left Haran when Abram was 75, everyone went with them.
So Terah is not mentioned so must have died.
This suggest with Terah living to be 205, Abram was born when he was 130+.
So what Stephen is saying is a reasonable conclusion.
Now the reason this is the accepted position, because Stephen is preaching to
the highest authority in Judaism, and he is building an argument of the link between
Abraham and Jesus, so would start on the solid ground of understanding within Judaism
which is obviously Abraham, aged 75, left Haran after Terah died.
It all hinges on the meaning of this sentence
"Terah lived seventy years, and became the father of Abram, Nahor and Haran."
Gen 11:26
If this means Terah became a father aged 70, and his sons are Abram, Nahor and Haran.
It makes sense when they moved to Haran everyone went with them.
Equally when they left Haran when Abram was 75, everyone went with them.
So Terah is not mentioned so must have died.
This suggest with Terah living to be 205, Abram was born when he was 130+.
So what Stephen is saying is a reasonable conclusion.
Now the reason this is the accepted position, because Stephen is preaching to
the highest authority in Judaism, and he is building an argument of the link between
Abraham and Jesus, so would start on the solid ground of understanding within Judaism
which is obviously Abraham, aged 75, left Haran after Terah died.
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Bible Map: Valley of Hebron (Mamre)
Genesis 37:14 He said to him, "Go now, see whether it is well with your brothers, and well with the flock; and bring me word again." So he sent him out of the valley of Hebron, and he came to Shechem.
Genesis 37:14 He said to him, "Go now, see whether it is well with your brothers, and well with the flock; and bring me word again." So he sent him out of the valley of Hebron, and he came to Shechem.
decent article here refuting the ((common)) attack on scripture in the OP:
http://www.studytoanswer.net/consref/stephensermon.html
excerpt:
http://www.studytoanswer.net/consref/stephensermon.html
excerpt:
Stephen's sermon to the Jews in Acts 7 is one of the favourite portions of Scripture for skeptics to attack. There are several points in it which they will claim contradict the historical accounts related in the Old Testament. However, these assaults are the result of a lack of knowledge about the context, whether textual, theological, or cultural, in which this sermon appears. They arise from a reading of the text by unbelievers who wish to dispense with trying to understand the Bible as a systematic whole, and who instead want to pull bits and pieces out of their natural contexts, claim a contradiction, and give themselves a pretended reason to not believe what the Word of God says. Below, I will address several of the more common claims to contradictions with the Old Testament history that is being related in Stephen's message, and elucidate them in turn.
more from the article cited above:
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What we see in this passage is simply that either Stephen in his sermon, or Luke in his recounting of the sermon, is telescoping the events of Abraham and Jacob together, as they are essentially similar subject matter, and are related chronologically and historically. Again, let us remember who Stephen's audience were - Hellenistic Jews who would to a certain degree have been Hellenised. As such, they would have been more receptive (and perhaps would subconsciously expect) a presentation in a Hellenistic style of rhetoric.
It is doubtful that Stephen's audience would have even thought twice about Stephen's supposed error - they would have recognised the oratory device, and filled in the unspoken details themselves from their tacit knowledge of the stories and texts in question. This is made all the more likely because of the fact that most ancient cultures utilised high-context communication. Whereas we, in our low context society, feel the need to explicitly spell out exactly what we mean and leave little to the tacit knowledge of our audience, the ancients left much of the context of their words unspoken. The hearers or readers were expected to fill in the details from what they already knew, as Stephen would likely have expected his audience to do in this situation.
Of course, this telescoping device was not solely limited to Hellenistic venues. Hints of it also seem to appear in the Hebrew scriptures. We see it somewhat in Joshua's sermon in Joshua 24, such as where Joshua appears to get his chronology backwards in vv. 11-13. The creation account in Genesis 1, where the events of the sixth day, especially the creation of Adam and Eve, are telescoped together and the much greater detail appearing in Genesis 2 is left out. Despite (though not necessarily contradictory to) all the emphasis that has been laid out about the Hellenism of Stephen's audience, we can see that Stephen's sermon delivery is firmly in the Hebrew tradition. Sermonry through the recounting of historical details and progression, especially as they apply to God's dealings with the nation of Israel, are a programmatic Hebrew method of exhortation. This methodology is used extensively by Moses (e.g. Deut. chs. 4, 29, 32), is the basis of Joshua's sermon in Joshua 24, forms the basis of Psalm 78, and is found elsewhere in the Hebrew scriptures. This same sort of Hebraism appears elsewhere in the New Testament, such as in Corinthians 10 and Hebrews 11.
Thus, Stephen's sermon was fully in line with both the Hebraic and Hellenistic traditions of his audience, and his meaning would have been easily recognised by the members of his audience. While this telescoping appears to modern, low-context observers as wrong, it is incorrect to say that this is a "contradiction" or "error" given what has been said above. This only appears to be a contradiction because our modern minds are not conditioned to recognise and expect Hellenistic modes of speech.
It is doubtful that Stephen's audience would have even thought twice about Stephen's supposed error - they would have recognised the oratory device, and filled in the unspoken details themselves from their tacit knowledge of the stories and texts in question. This is made all the more likely because of the fact that most ancient cultures utilised high-context communication. Whereas we, in our low context society, feel the need to explicitly spell out exactly what we mean and leave little to the tacit knowledge of our audience, the ancients left much of the context of their words unspoken. The hearers or readers were expected to fill in the details from what they already knew, as Stephen would likely have expected his audience to do in this situation.
Of course, this telescoping device was not solely limited to Hellenistic venues. Hints of it also seem to appear in the Hebrew scriptures. We see it somewhat in Joshua's sermon in Joshua 24, such as where Joshua appears to get his chronology backwards in vv. 11-13. The creation account in Genesis 1, where the events of the sixth day, especially the creation of Adam and Eve, are telescoped together and the much greater detail appearing in Genesis 2 is left out. Despite (though not necessarily contradictory to) all the emphasis that has been laid out about the Hellenism of Stephen's audience, we can see that Stephen's sermon delivery is firmly in the Hebrew tradition. Sermonry through the recounting of historical details and progression, especially as they apply to God's dealings with the nation of Israel, are a programmatic Hebrew method of exhortation. This methodology is used extensively by Moses (e.g. Deut. chs. 4, 29, 32), is the basis of Joshua's sermon in Joshua 24, forms the basis of Psalm 78, and is found elsewhere in the Hebrew scriptures. This same sort of Hebraism appears elsewhere in the New Testament, such as in Corinthians 10 and Hebrews 11.
Thus, Stephen's sermon was fully in line with both the Hebraic and Hellenistic traditions of his audience, and his meaning would have been easily recognised by the members of his audience. While this telescoping appears to modern, low-context observers as wrong, it is incorrect to say that this is a "contradiction" or "error" given what has been said above. This only appears to be a contradiction because our modern minds are not conditioned to recognise and expect Hellenistic modes of speech.
People on this site all have access to Bibles concordances and computers/internet. Yet there are still arguments and debates about various things found in the Bible. In particular things connected with the last days. If being filled with the Holy Spirit guaranteed complete knowledge of the truth there wouldn't be any.
It's because those who want to be teachers forget the BEST PART and want to feed meat to lambs who haven't first drink the milk
we weren't supposed to preach anything but CHRIST
If we have knowledge of prophecies and insight by HIS SPIRIT we atill
has better make sure that our feet are planted on the ONE FOUNDATION of our faith
CHRIST
And not "go out" from HIM who is both the FOUNDATION and HEAD of this faith in which we stand and will stand
provided we do not "go out"
we weren't supposed to preach anything but CHRIST
If we have knowledge of prophecies and insight by HIS SPIRIT we atill
has better make sure that our feet are planted on the ONE FOUNDATION of our faith
CHRIST
And not "go out" from HIM who is both the FOUNDATION and HEAD of this faith in which we stand and will stand
provided we do not "go out"
I think this is where this scripture comes into play, tanakh:
2 Timothy 3
1But realize this, that in the last days difficult times will come. 2For men will be lovers of self, lovers of money,boastful, arrogant, revilers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3unloving, irreconcilable, malicious gossips, without self-control, brutal, haters of good, 4treacherous, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5holding to a form of godliness, although they have denied its power; Avoid such men as these. 6For among them are those who enter into households and captivate weak women weighed down with sins, led on by various impulses,7always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 8Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so these men also oppose the truth, men of depraved mind, rejected in regard to the faith. 9But they will not make further progress; for their folly will be obvious to all, just as Jannes’s and Jambres’s folly was also.
2 Timothy 3
1But realize this, that in the last days difficult times will come. 2For men will be lovers of self, lovers of money,boastful, arrogant, revilers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3unloving, irreconcilable, malicious gossips, without self-control, brutal, haters of good, 4treacherous, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5holding to a form of godliness, although they have denied its power; Avoid such men as these. 6For among them are those who enter into households and captivate weak women weighed down with sins, led on by various impulses,7always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 8Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so these men also oppose the truth, men of depraved mind, rejected in regard to the faith. 9But they will not make further progress; for their folly will be obvious to all, just as Jannes’s and Jambres’s folly was also.
Most certainly
just as it was made manifest by those, though they claimed to know GOD, yet tested CHRIST by bringing to HIM
a woman caught in adultery showing that by what was really in them, they did not truly know of whose spirit they claimed themselves to be of
in the end. many will rise uo thinking themselves in service to GOD, but by what they do will make manifest that they misrepresent HIM
just as it was made manifest by those, though they claimed to know GOD, yet tested CHRIST by bringing to HIM
a woman caught in adultery showing that by what was really in them, they did not truly know of whose spirit they claimed themselves to be of
in the end. many will rise uo thinking themselves in service to GOD, but by what they do will make manifest that they misrepresent HIM
please explain i'm all ears 