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You are sadly mistaken, Paul only knew the law of moses and what was in the scriptures of the old testament.. no revelation of Jesus until he was converted when he was knocked from his horse and blinded. Read Galatians ; 1; 11-24.

He then went and stayed with the disciples at damascus acts 9:19. he also taught nothing but what the law and prophets said would happen.

acts 26:20-23 "But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance. 21For these causes the Jews caught me in the temple, and went about to kill me. 22Having therefore obtained help of God, I continue unto this day, witnessing both to small and great, saying none other things than those which the prophets and Moses did say should come: 23That Christ should suffer, and that he should be the first that should rise from the dead, and should shew light unto the people, and to the Gentiles."

Paul was a pharisee according to the Law, which means he knew the law and prophets thoroughly, and the law and prophets testify of Jesus and give revelation of Him. its why paul taught of Jesus from the law and prophets, the idea that we learn without scripture is ridiculous anything we Know about Jesus comes from scripture, either someone else learned it and then shared it, or we learn it ourselves. theres a not so subtle movement in the "church" to get away from the scriptures and teach our own brand of Jesus. thats not a good idea. there is no magical spirit that comes and will ever teach anything different from the scriptures in the bible. Gods Word doesnt change the spirit gives us understanding and revelation through Gods Word. whether studied or shared by someone who studied it.

another thing about paul is Luke was His traveling companion Luke who wrote the gospel of Luke and the book of acts. pauls hunger for the scriptures is evident even in His final Letter where He asks for the scrolls and parchments, obviously searching for more knowledge of God.
 
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This is one of the classic problems of interpretation.
It all hinges on the meaning of this sentence

"Terah lived seventy years, and became the father of Abram, Nahor and Haran."
Gen 11:26

If this means Terah became a father aged 70, and his sons are Abram, Nahor and Haran.
It makes sense when they moved to Haran everyone went with them.
Equally when they left Haran when Abram was 75, everyone went with them.

So Terah is not mentioned so must have died.
This suggest with Terah living to be 205, Abram was born when he was 130+.

So what Stephen is saying is a reasonable conclusion.
Now the reason this is the accepted position, because Stephen is preaching to
the highest authority in Judaism, and he is building an argument of the link between
Abraham and Jesus, so would start on the solid ground of understanding within Judaism
which is obviously Abraham, aged 75, left Haran after Terah died.
From the Book of Jubilee 11: 14; And in this thirty-ninth jubilee, in the second week in the first year, [1870 A.M.] Terah took to himself a wife, and her name was ’Edna, the daughter of ’Abram, the daughter of his father’s sister. And in the seventh year of this week [1876 A.M.] she bare him a son, and he called his name Abram, 15 by the name of the father of his mother; [Abrahams grand father on his mothers side] for he had died before his daughter had conceived a son.

Terah is the father of Abraham his first born, of whom Edna the wife of Terah gave birth to 6 years after she was married, Haran was the second born and he was burned to death trying to save the idols in the temple in Ur of which his father 'Terah' was High Priest, and which Abraham had deliberately torched, and Nahor the youngest, cared for his father in Haran until he died at the age of 205, some 130 years after Abraham, at the age of 75 left him there with his youngest brother.

Stephen was wrong in saying that it was after the death of Terah, that the 75 year old Abraham, left him there in Haran with Nahor, where he died 130 years later at the age of 205.

Believe Stephen, or believe the words of the Lord. BTW, from which scripture did you receive your false information that Abraham was born when Terah was 130?
 

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Genesis 11:26 doesn't mean that all three sons of Terah were born in the same year in the order they are there listed.

compare every listing of Noah's sons - given in the order '
Shem, Ham and Japheth' - this doesn't mean Japheth is the youngest; in fact Ham is the youngest son ((Genesis 9:22-24)).

what Genesis 11:26 tells us is that Terah became a father when he was 70. it doesn't tell us that Abraham was firstborn.

the Book of Jubliee only exists in complete form in Ethiopian, written in 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] century BC. only fragments of Greek & Hebrew versions of it have ever been found and it's not possible to know how close the Ethiopian version of it is to the original text; for this reason it's never been considered canon. moreover the author dates everything with a solar calendar - antithetical to the Hebrew lunar calendar. many scholars believe this book was written expressly for the purpose of promoting a solar calendar, and it's not considered a reliable source.

you may as well be quoting an 18[SUP]th[/SUP] century version of the book of Enoch as though it is 5,000 years older than it actually is, for all the legitimacy the book of Jubilee has.
 
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Genesis 11:26 doesn't mean that all three sons of Terah were born in the same year in the order they are there listed.

compare every listing of Noah's sons - given in the order '
Shem, Ham and Japheth' - this doesn't mean Japheth is the youngest; in fact Ham is the youngest son ((Genesis 9:22-24)).

what Genesis 11:26 tells us is that Terah became a father when he was 70. it doesn't tell us that Abraham was firstborn.

the Book of Jubliee only exists in complete form in Ethiopian, written in 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] century BC. only fragments of Greek & Hebrew versions of it have ever been found and it's not possible to know how close the Ethiopian version of it is to the original text; for this reason it's never been considered canon. moreover the author dates everything with a solar calendar - antithetical to the Hebrew lunar calendar. many scholars believe this book was written expressly for the purpose of promoting a solar calendar, and it's not considered a reliable source.

you may as well be quoting an 18[SUP]th[/SUP] century version of the book of Enoch as though it is 5,000 years older than it actually is, for all the legitimacy the book of Jubilee has.
Then forget about Jubilees and look to the Septuagint: Genesis 11: 27-32; 27 And these are the generations of Tharrha/Terah.

Tharrha begot Abram/Abraham and Nachor/Nahor, and Arrhan/Haran; and Arrhan/Haran begot Lot.
28 And Arrhan/Haran died in the presence of Tharrha/Tarah his father, in the land in which he was born, in the country of the Chaldees.

29 And Abram/Abraham and Nachor/Nahor took to themselves wives, the name of the wife of Abram/Abraham was Sara, and the name of the wife of Nachor, Malcha, daughter of Arrhan/Haran, and he was the father of Malcha, the father of Jescha/Iscah.

30 And Sara was barren, and did not bear children.

31 And Tharrha/Terah took Abram/Abraham his son, and Lot the son Arrhan/Haran, the son of his son, and Sara his daughter-in-law, the wife of Abram/Abraham his son, and led them forth out of the land of the Chaldees, to go into the land of Chanaan/Canaan, and they came as far as Charrhan/Haran, and he dwelt there.

32 And all the days of Tharrha/Terah in the land of Charrhan/Haran were two hundred and five years, and Tharrha/Tharah died in Charrhan/Haran.

According to the Septuagint Terah died in Haran at the age of 205, 130 years after his first born son Abraham left him there with his younger brother Nahor.

But then so does your own bible: KJV Gen 11: 32; "And the days of Terah were 205 years and Terah died in Haran." 130 years after Abraham at the age of 75, had left him there with his younger brother Nahor.

Stephen was wrong to say that it was after Terah had died, that Abraham moved into the land of Canaan.

But if you wish to believe Stephen the newly converted Christian, and reject the truth of the Lord as revealed in the Holy Scriptures, then that is your God given right, you have a free will my friend.

How many Christians of different denominations, claim that the Holy Sprit leads them in the truth which is totally different to another of a different denomination, who also has the truth that was revealed to them by the Holy Spirit.

The story of Stephen reveals to us that you can be filled with the Holy Spirit and be a valuable member of your community and yet be totally ignorant to the truths of the Lord; "Blessed are those who do not see, and yet believe."
 
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Believe Stephen, or believe the words of the Lord. BTW, from which scripture did you receive your false information that Abraham was born when Terah was 130?
The order of scripture is simple. Terah, took Abram, Lot and Sarai to Haran.
There he died. No more mention of him.
Abram was then called by God and left Haran to go to Canaan.
The ages are filled in when these events occured.
Terah 205 at death. He became a father at 75, had three sons, Abram, Nahor, Haran

You will notice there is no mention of daughters, only the sons.
Now either there were triplets, or this is a summary of when he became a father, and
these three sons where the most significant.

130 = 205 - 75

Now the only reason for this discrepancy was Stephens sermon to the sanhedren.
Paul, a pharisee did not correct this "error" or the apostles, rather they accepted
it written in Acts, and took it into scripture.

I would therefore suggest this was the interpretation at the time of Jesus.
What I find interesting is how some have problems over such interpretation details
which can be explained, but never definitively, because we have no more information.
The Lord will always provide reasons to disbelieve Him, because it relies on do you believe
His Spirit and ways of working, and leave it in His hands.
 
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The order of scripture is simple. Terah, took Abram, Lot and Sarai to Haran.
There he died. No more mention of him.
Abram was then called by God and left Haran to go to Canaan.
The ages are filled in when these events occured.
Terah 205 at death. He became a father at 75, had three sons, Abram, Nahor, Haran

You will notice there is no mention of daughters, only the sons.
Now either there were triplets, or this is a summary of when he became a father, and
these three sons where the most significant.

130 = 205 - 75

Now the only reason for this discrepancy was Stephens sermon to the sanhedren.
Paul, a pharisee did not correct this "error" or the apostles, rather they accepted
it written in Acts, and took it into scripture.

I would therefore suggest this was the interpretation at the time of Jesus.
What I find interesting is how some have problems over such interpretation details
which can be explained, but never definitively, because we have no more information.
The Lord will always provide reasons to disbelieve Him, because it relies on do you believe
His Spirit and ways of working, and leave it in His hands.
PeterJens wrote.........The order of scripture is simple. Terah, took Abram, Lot and Sarai to Haran.
There he died. No more mention of him.
Abram was then called by God and left Haran to go to Canaan.
The ages are filled in when these events occurred.
Terah 205 at death. He became a father at 75, had three sons, Abram, Nahor, Haran.

S-word...........According to my bible Terah was 70 when he began his family, not 75, as you seem to have gleaned from whatever bible you study, Abraham was 75 when he left his father, who was then 145, in Haran with his younger brother Nahor, and Terah died there 60 years later at the age of 205.

Peter Jen wrote...........You will notice there is no mention of daughters, only the sons. Now either there were triplets, or this is a summary of when he became a father, and these three sons where the most significant.

S-word...........I will accept that this was a summary of when Terah first became a father, if you want to believe that his three sons were triplets? Fair enough, but Abraham was the first born of Terah's sons, who became a father at the age of 70.

PeterJen wrote.........130 = 205 - 75

S-word...........According to my bible Terah was 70 when he began his family, not 75, as you seem to have gleaned from whatever bible you study, Abraham was 75 when he left his father in Haran with his younger brother Nahor, and Terah, who was then 145, died there 60 years later at the age of 205.

PeterJens wrote............Now the only reason for this discrepancy was Stephens sermon to the sanhedren. Paul, a pharisee did not correct this "error" or the apostles,

S-word............No, they took him outside and stoned him to death for his heresy. To speak against the truths of the Lord, was heresy, and Stephen. a newly converted Christian contradicted all the truth as revealed in the Hebrew bible.
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Peter Jan.........rather they accepted it written in Acts, and took it into scripture.

S-word.......To prove to all that one can be full of the Holy Spirit and be a valuable member of society, and yet be totally ignorant to the truths as revealed in the Holy Scriptures.

Peter Jan wrote........... I would therefore suggest this was the interpretation at the time of Jesus.

S-word..........And you are entitled to your erroneous belief.

Peter Jen wrote.........What I find interesting is how some have problems over such interpretation details which can be explained, but never definitively, because we have no more information. The Lord will always provide reasons to disbelieve Him, because it relies on do you believe His Spirit and ways of working, and leave it in His hands.

S-word........Stephen, was a newly converted Christian and would have been taught, that after Jesus had been given divine glory by our God, He had ascended to his Father and our Father, to his God and our God, where he, who is now incontestably divine and sits on the right hand of our God, to where he invites his brothers, who like himself, are able to win the victory over the world, to sit with him in the throne of Godhead to all creation, visible and invisible, See Rev 3: 21. But did he actually see anything? After reading everything that Stephen said, I cant put faith he anything that he had to say.

Stephen, a Greek speaking Jew, who had been dragged before the Jewish authorities by Saul, in defense of his faith before being stoned to death,

So then, do you believe as stated by Stephen in acts 7: 4, that it was after Terah HAD DIED that his son Abraham obeyed Gods command and went to live in the land of Canaan. But the record in Genesis makes it plain that after Terah had turned 70 not 75 or 80, he became the father of Abraham, Nahor and Haran, and that Abraham was 75 when he travelled to Canaan, leaving his father with his younger brother Nahor,and that his father died there in Haran 60 years later at the age of 205?

And do you believe Stephen who said in Acts 7: 15-17, that Abraham bought the grave site for Sarah in the land of Shechem from Hamor, whereas Genesis 23: shows that Abraham bought the grave site from Ephron the Hittite at Machpeleh east of Mamre, which is way to the south of Shechem?

It is also said by Stephen in the same verses, that Jacob and his sons were buried at Shechem, when in fact, it was only the remains of Joseph which was buried there, see Joshua 24: 32. Jacob and his other sons were buried at Mamre and concerning the burial of Jacob, it is written in genesis 50: 13, They carried the body of Jacob to Canaan and buried it in the cave at Machpelah east of Mamre in the field which Abraham had bought from Ephron the Hittite.Again do you believe that Stephens words are the truth as revealed in Gods word?

Stephen said in Acts 7: 14; that the number of Jacobs Family that went into Egypt was 75 people in all, whereas Genesis 46: 27; reveals that the number of Jacobs family who went down to Egypt was 70.


Who speaks the truth? The word of God, or Stephen the newly converted Christian?
 

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He then went and stayed with the disciples at damascus acts 9:19. he also taught nothing but what the law and prophets said would happen.

acts 26:20-23 "But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance. 21For these causes the Jews caught me in the temple, and went about to kill me. 22Having therefore obtained help of God, I continue unto this day, witnessing both to small and great, saying none other things than those which the prophets and Moses did say should come: 23That Christ should suffer, and that he should be the first that should rise from the dead, and should shew light unto the people, and to the Gentiles."

Paul was a pharisee according to the Law, which means he knew the law and prophets thoroughly, and the law and prophets testify of Jesus and give revelation of Him. its why paul taught of Jesus from the law and prophets, the idea that we learn without scripture is ridiculous anything we Know about Jesus comes from scripture, either someone else learned it and then shared it, or we learn it ourselves. theres a not so subtle movement in the "church" to get away from the scriptures and teach our own brand of Jesus. thats not a good idea. there is no magical spirit that comes and will ever teach anything different from the scriptures in the bible. Gods Word doesnt change the spirit gives us understanding and revelation through Gods Word. whether studied or shared by someone who studied it.

another thing about paul is Luke was His traveling companion Luke who wrote the gospel of Luke and the book of acts. pauls hunger for the scriptures is evident even in His final Letter where He asks for the scrolls and parchments, obviously searching for more knowledge of God.
Could you supply the whole truth according to Philippians 3?

Paul was a Pharisee of Pharisee and perfect according to the legal requirements of the law but he counted all these things as dung for the knowledge of HIS LORD
All these "gains" he considered a loss that he may gain CHRIST and be found in HIM not having a righteousness based on the law

Paul desired to know nothing but CHRIST and HIM crucified and he understood that's no man can lay any other foundation than the one laid

and that is CHRIST
 
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lol no comment :) please explain i'm all ears :)
Whatsa matta, friend,you don't have the same line that I have to cross, do you?:p


This fellow is an unbelieving Muslim who's already been on several christian sites..... watch him closely.:)
 
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Yer not gonna to respond to that S-word?

Didn't think so.

I believe I know what the s-word stands for now. I used to tell my kids "Never say the s-word".:)
 

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To repeat, the Bible doesn't say Abraham was the firstborn. The order the sons are listed doesn't necessarily reflect the order they were born - for reference, Noah's son's, and Jacob's, are never listed by order of birth.
 

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Not all who are filled with the Holy Spirit have the truth.

This is true, but people who are filled with the Holy Spirit will not dare teach anything beyond their knowledge.
 
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Luke, who was an apostle under our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, confirms that Stephen was:

of honest report, full of the Holy Ghost and wisdom (Acts 6:3).

full of faith and power, did great wonders and miracles among the people (Acts 6:8).

Stephen spoke with the wisdom and the spirit (Acts 6:10).

Luke was an eyewitness at the time these events occurred. Luke's witness is much more powerful than what we can comprehend many centuries later.


Also, have you ever heard of the "traditions" which had been established and which were not in alignment with God's Word? Jesus speaks of these "traditions" in Matthew 15. Do you think it is possible that Stephen spoke of the traditional understanding held by those he addressed, rather than what was written in Genesis?
 

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Not all who are filled with the Holy Spirit have the truth.

This is true, but people who are filled with the Holy Spirit will not dare teach anything beyond their knowledge.
Sometimes HE gives us what we need to say in that moment
so those filled with the HOLY SPIRIT don't even prepare what they are about to say because as HE said

it will be the SPIRIT of MY FATHER giving you what to say

and the VOICE/SPIRIT of GOD will never contradict the written WORD of GOD
And the written WORD of GOD will never contradict the VOICE/SPIRIT of GOD
 
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Sometimes HE gives us what we need to say in that moment
so those filled with the HOLY SPIRIT don't even prepare what they are about to say because as HE said

it will be the SPIRIT of MY FATHER giving you what to say

and the VOICE/SPIRIT of GOD will never contradict the written WORD of GOD
And the written WORD of GOD will never contradict the VOICE/SPIRIT of GOD

So then, you must disbelieve the words as stated by Stephen in acts 7: 4, that it was after Terah HAD DIED that his son Abraham obeyed Gods command and went to live in the land of Canaan. Because the written WORD OF GOD in Genesis makes it plain that after Terah had turned 70 not 75 or 80, he became the father of Abraham, Nahor and Haran, and that Abraham was 75 when he travelled to Canaan, leaving his father with his younger brother Nahor,and that his father died there in Haran 60 years later at the age of 205?

And do you also disbelieve Stephen who said in Acts 7: 15-17, that Abraham bought the grave site for Sarah in the land of Shechem from Hamor. Because the written 'WORD OF GOD' says in Genesis 23: that Abraham bought the grave site from Ephron the Hittite at Machpeleh east of Mamre, which is way to the south of Shechem
?

Again, you must also disbelieve what is said by Stephen in the same verse, that Jacob and his sons were buried at Shechem, because according to the written 'WORD OF GOD' it was only the remains of Joseph which was buried there, see Joshua 24: 32. Jacob and his other sons were buried at Mamre and concerning the burial of Jacob, it is written in genesis 50: 13, They carried the body of Jacob to Canaan and buried it in the cave at Machpelah east of Mamre in the field which Abraham had bought from Ephron the Hittite.Again do you believe that Stephens words are the truth as revealed in Gods written word?

Stephen also said in Acts 7: 14; that the number of Jacobs Family that went into Egypt was 75 people in all, whereas the
written 'WORD OF GOD' in Genesis 46: 27; reveals that the number of Jacobs family who went down to Egypt was 70.


Where do find the truth? In the written 'WORD OF GOD,' or in the words of Stephen the newly converted Christian?

Paul commended the people in his day, who checked his words against the written 'WORD OF GOD.' What a pity that the people on this forum do not do the same with Stephen's words.
 
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So then, you must disbelieve the words as stated by Stephen in acts 7: 4, that it was after Terah HAD DIED that his son Abraham obeyed Gods command and went to live in the land of Canaan. Because the written WORD OF GOD in Genesis makes it plain that after Terah had turned 70 not 75 or 80, he became the father of Abraham, Nahor and Haran, and that Abraham was 75 when he travelled to Canaan, leaving his father with his younger brother Nahor,and that his father died there in Haran 60 years later at the age of 205?

And do you also disbelieve Stephen who said in Acts 7: 15-17, that Abraham bought the grave site for Sarah in the land of Shechem from Hamor. Because the written 'WORD OF GOD' says in Genesis 23: that Abraham bought the grave site from Ephron the Hittite at Machpeleh east of Mamre, which is way to the south of Shechem
?

Again, you must also disbelieve what is said by Stephen in the same verse, that Jacob and his sons were buried at Shechem, because according to the written 'WORD OF GOD' it was only the remains of Joseph which was buried there, see Joshua 24: 32. Jacob and his other sons were buried at Mamre and concerning the burial of Jacob, it is written in genesis 50: 13, They carried the body of Jacob to Canaan and buried it in the cave at Machpelah east of Mamre in the field which Abraham had bought from Ephron the Hittite.Again do you believe that Stephens words are the truth as revealed in Gods written word?

Stephen also said in Acts 7: 14; that the number of Jacobs Family that went into Egypt was 75 people in all, whereas the
written 'WORD OF GOD' in Genesis 46: 27; reveals that the number of Jacobs family who went down to Egypt was 70.


Where do find the truth? In the written 'WORD OF GOD,' or in the words of Stephen the newly converted Christian?

Paul commended the people in his day, who checked his words against the written 'WORD OF GOD.' What a pity that the people on this forum do not do the same with Stephen's words.
I believe in ONE TESTIMONY only
That alone is what I am to concern myself with
 

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Heads up.

S-word is not a Christian. He says so in his profile. That might help in the way you approach what he says. He has written a poem to Omar Khayyam.

Wikipedia says this about Omar Khayyam's religion.

There have been widely divergent views on Khayyám. At one end of the spectrum, there are nightclubs named after Khayyám, and he is seen as an agnostic hedonist.
40] On the other end of the spectrum, he is seen as a mystical Sufi Muslim poet with a complex set of ideals.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omar_Khayyam
 
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I believe in ONE TESTIMONY only
That alone is what I am to concern myself with
And is that the testimony of the Lord, or the testament of Stephen? Because you can not believe both.
 
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Heads up.

S-word is not a Christian. He says so in his profile. That might help in the way you approach what he says. He has written a poem to Omar Khayyam.

Wikipedia says this about Omar Khayyam's religion.

There have been widely divergent views on Khayyám. At one end of the spectrum, there are nightclubs named after Khayyám, and he is seen as an agnostic hedonist.
40] On the other end of the spectrum, he is seen as a mystical Sufi Muslim poet with a complex set of ideals.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omar_Khayyam
Heap your rubbish on me girly, I've got broad shoulders.

While the servants of He who stands before God night and day accusing his brothers, attack me, they are leaving some other poor soul, whose hide is not as thick as mine, alone.

According to your definition, a Christian is one who believe the corrupted version of God's Holy WORD, wherein the Roman church of Emperor Constantine spread their lie, that Jesus was supposedly born of some ever virgin, which he was not, as revealed when the added lies of that church are stripped from the truth of God's word.
 
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Luke, who was an apostle under our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, confirms that Stephen was:

of honest report, full of the Holy Ghost and wisdom (Acts 6:3).

full of faith and power, did great wonders and miracles among the people (Acts 6:8).

Stephen spoke with the wisdom and the spirit (Acts 6:10).

Luke was an eyewitness at the time these events occurred. Luke's witness is much more powerful than what we can comprehend many centuries later.


Also, have you ever heard of the "traditions" which had been established and which were not in alignment with God's Word? Jesus speaks of these "traditions" in Matthew 15. Do you think it is possible that Stephen spoke of the traditional understanding held by those he addressed, rather than what was written in Genesis?
So then, do you believe the words of Stephen, which have been proven to be in direct contradiction to Gods WORD?

According to Jewish scriptures of those days, from who and where did Abraham buy his family grave site? See Gen 23.

Where was the body of Jacob Buried? See Gen 50: 12.

Although Stephen was correct in saying the number of Jacobs family that went down into Egypt was 75, See the Septuagint 46: 27. It is the corrupted Roman Version, which gives the number as 70.

If you believe that Abraham was born when his father, Terah, who began his family at the age of 70, was 130 and who, according to Stephen, died before his son went into the land of Canaan at the age of 75, with his young nephew Lot, the son of the dead Haran, then I'm afraid you are not well versed in the Holy Scriptures of the Lord.
 
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I believe the words of Luke when he wrote that Stephen was of honest report, full of the Holy Ghost and wisdom (Acts 6:3), full of faith and power, did great wonders and miracles among the people (Acts 6:8), spoke with the wisdom and the spirit (Acts 6:10).

The reaction of those to whom Stephen spoke was not "Oh Stephen, you are in error. Go back and study before you speak with us concerning these matters".

The reaction of those to whom Stephen spoke was they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth (Acts 7:54).

Why did all that sat in the council (Acts 6:15) and the high priest (Acts 7:1) have such a violent reaction?

Stephen hit a nerve in those present at that time. Again, Stephen may have knocked down some of the traditions which had sprung up and which were contrary to what was written in Genesis.