Are you RIGHTEOUS?
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1 Peter 5:
6Therefore humble yourselves under the mighty hand of God, that He may exalt you at the proper time,7casting all your anxiety on Him, because He cares for you.
James 4:
10Humble yourselves in the presence of the Lord, and He will exalt you.
An attitude of superiority indicates an individual is lifting himself up, & not allowing God to do it. It is self-righteousness & fleshly works.
A superior attitude will never show the fruit of humility, though he/she will strive to fake it.
6Therefore humble yourselves under the mighty hand of God, that He may exalt you at the proper time,7casting all your anxiety on Him, because He cares for you.
James 4:
10Humble yourselves in the presence of the Lord, and He will exalt you.
An attitude of superiority indicates an individual is lifting himself up, & not allowing God to do it. It is self-righteousness & fleshly works.
A superior attitude will never show the fruit of humility, though he/she will strive to fake it.
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who has the superiority attitude?
Those demanding works, and judging the sinners.
Or those who have humbled themselves, and always point to christ.
it is one thing to talk the talk, It is another to walk the walk. If you talk i t, and do not walk it, Your talk is meaningless and will never get heard.
Those demanding works, and judging the sinners.
Or those who have humbled themselves, and always point to christ.
it is one thing to talk the talk, It is another to walk the walk. If you talk i t, and do not walk it, Your talk is meaningless and will never get heard.
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one of the problems I have seen in churches since I have been going (and I have been going to church for 45 years now. and been to many churches all over the country)
is that pastors who are not humble, but demanding, and expect people to walk the walk, Yet when reality hits, the pastor himself has not lived up to his own standard, Something always happens which shows some hidden sin, or hidden life, that (I think because God exposes it) always comes out. I have seen many a pastor fall hard because he refused to humble himself and teach humility, and confess his sin, But instead hid them, and became the ultimate hypocrite. who crashed and burned.
I have also seen quite a few humble spiritual leaders, who just humbly share gods word, And are able to walk the walk, But in humility, not judgmental or demanding, Who are not afraid to admit they still sin, Not afraid to admit they are not perfect yet But walk with his congregation in the hope of finishing the race.. They run together as a group.
Thats what the church needs. Not these hypocritical fruit inspectors who think they have made it.
is that pastors who are not humble, but demanding, and expect people to walk the walk, Yet when reality hits, the pastor himself has not lived up to his own standard, Something always happens which shows some hidden sin, or hidden life, that (I think because God exposes it) always comes out. I have seen many a pastor fall hard because he refused to humble himself and teach humility, and confess his sin, But instead hid them, and became the ultimate hypocrite. who crashed and burned.
I have also seen quite a few humble spiritual leaders, who just humbly share gods word, And are able to walk the walk, But in humility, not judgmental or demanding, Who are not afraid to admit they still sin, Not afraid to admit they are not perfect yet But walk with his congregation in the hope of finishing the race.. They run together as a group.
Thats what the church needs. Not these hypocritical fruit inspectors who think they have made it.
James 1:12
New International Version
Blessed is the one who perseveres under trial because, having stood the test, that person will receive the crown of life that the Lord has promised to those who love him.
New Living Translation
God blesses those who patiently endure testing and temptation. Afterward they will receive the crown of life that God has promised to those who love him.
English Standard Version
Blessed is the man who remains steadfast under trial, for when he has stood the test he will receive the crown of life, which God has promised to those who love him.
Berean Study Bible
Blessed is the man who perseveres under trial, because when he has stood the test, he will receive the crown of life that God has promised to those who love Him.
Berean Literal Bible
Blessed is the man who endures trial, because, having been approved, he will receive the crown of life that He has promised to those loving Him.
New American Standard Bible
Blessed is a man who perseveres under trial; for once he has been approved, he will receive the crown of life which the Lord has promised to those who love Him.
I love God's word, because it is able to stand without man's help.
For in the gospel the righteousness of God is revealed--a righteousness that is by faith from first to last, just as it is written: "The righteous will live by faith."
New Living Translation
This Good News tells us how God makes us right in his sight. This is accomplished from start to finish by faith. As the Scriptures say, "It is through faith that a righteous person has life."
Berean Study Bible
For the gospel reveals the righteousness of God that comes by faith from start to finish, just as it is written: "The righteous will live by faith."
God's word will stand!!! Hallelujah!!!
New International Version
Blessed is the one who perseveres under trial because, having stood the test, that person will receive the crown of life that the Lord has promised to those who love him.
New Living Translation
God blesses those who patiently endure testing and temptation. Afterward they will receive the crown of life that God has promised to those who love him.
English Standard Version
Blessed is the man who remains steadfast under trial, for when he has stood the test he will receive the crown of life, which God has promised to those who love him.
Berean Study Bible
Blessed is the man who perseveres under trial, because when he has stood the test, he will receive the crown of life that God has promised to those who love Him.
Berean Literal Bible
Blessed is the man who endures trial, because, having been approved, he will receive the crown of life that He has promised to those loving Him.
New American Standard Bible
Blessed is a man who perseveres under trial; for once he has been approved, he will receive the crown of life which the Lord has promised to those who love Him.
I love God's word, because it is able to stand without man's help.
Romans 1:17
New International Version
For in the gospel the righteousness of God is revealed--a righteousness that is by faith from first to last, just as it is written: "The righteous will live by faith."
New Living Translation
This Good News tells us how God makes us right in his sight. This is accomplished from start to finish by faith. As the Scriptures say, "It is through faith that a righteous person has life."
Berean Study Bible
For the gospel reveals the righteousness of God that comes by faith from start to finish, just as it is written: "The righteous will live by faith."
God's word will stand!!! Hallelujah!!!
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Rom 16:26
but now has been made known through the prophets to all the gentiles, in keeping with the decree of the eternal God to bring them to the obedience that springs from faith—
1Pe 2:7 Unto youG5213 thereforeG3767 which believeG4100 he is precious:G5092 butG1161 unto them which be disobedient,G544 the stoneG3037 whichG3739 theG3588 buildersG3618 disallowed,G593 the sameG3778 is madeG1096 the(G1519) headG2776 of the corner,G1137
disobedient:
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G544
ἀπειθέω
apeitheō
ap-i-theh'-o
From G545; to disbelieve (wilfully and perversely): - not believe, disobedient, obey not, unbelieving.
Total KJV occurrences: 16
but now has been made known through the prophets to all the gentiles, in keeping with the decree of the eternal God to bring them to the obedience that springs from faith—
1Pe 2:7 Unto youG5213 thereforeG3767 which believeG4100 he is precious:G5092 butG1161 unto them which be disobedient,G544 the stoneG3037 whichG3739 theG3588 buildersG3618 disallowed,G593 the sameG3778 is madeG1096 the(G1519) headG2776 of the corner,G1137
disobedient:
~
G544
ἀπειθέω
apeitheō
ap-i-theh'-o
From G545; to disbelieve (wilfully and perversely): - not believe, disobedient, obey not, unbelieving.
Total KJV occurrences: 16
1 Peter 2:21
New Living Translation
For God called you to do good, even if it means suffering, just as Christ suffered for you. He is your example, and you must follow in his steps.
A word tried & true!
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I understand, my issue is with the words demand and require.
In the new covenant obedience is not a requirement, it is not a necessary element to ensure our righteousness and salvation.
However, it is a result/symptom of that freely given righteousness, an outward confirmation of that which we already have in Christ.
In the new covenant obedience is not a requirement, it is not a necessary element to ensure our righteousness and salvation.
However, it is a result/symptom of that freely given righteousness, an outward confirmation of that which we already have in Christ.
It gets confusing though when we don't look at the Greek because our English might have different meanings. It's why I try to stick to the same words of the KJV and the Strongs concordance.
When we think disobedient in English, we think actions. Not so in the scriptures. That's why I said it the way I did.
In another post I wrote there is two greek words for disobedient.
When we think disobedient in English, we think actions. Not so in the scriptures. That's why I said it the way I did.
In another post I wrote there is two greek words for disobedient.
UnderGrace this is beautifully said, simple even a child can understand...Some people make the word of God so hard, i am a new born again, just under 2 years i been walking with Our Lord, but like your self, i was blind and now i see, I know i have so much to learn, but the Holy Spirit teaches me day by day, bit by bit, step by step, i like simple, i love the whole book of 1 John, it lets me know that i am saved, i have read so many different teachings on this site that i have sometimes ended up doubting my salvation, but then i remember to always go back to the word of God and let His unchanging words fill me up and be careful of whose teaching i listen to...xox...
From Proving Of Faith (Forerunner Commentary)
In James 1:12, the apostle is saying that the man who overcomes trials becomes a man of sterling worth and emerges strong and pure spiritually. But what must we overcome? In Revelation, each of the letters to the seven churches of Asia Minor contains the phrase "to him who overcomes." Later, in a summary statement near the end of the book, Christ says, "He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son" (Revelation 21:7). It is obvious that overcoming is a prime activity in a Christian's life.Paul says we are in a warfare against "spiritual wickedness" (Ephesians 6:12, KJV). He also writes that "the carnal mind is enmity against God" (Romans 8:7) and that "those who are in the flesh cannot please God" (verse 8). John says those who "overcome the wicked one" are strong (I John 2:14), and then he says we are not to love the world or its lusts and pride (verses 15-16).We have, therefore, three general areas in which to overcome:
In James 1:12, the apostle is saying that the man who overcomes trials becomes a man of sterling worth and emerges strong and pure spiritually. But what must we overcome? In Revelation, each of the letters to the seven churches of Asia Minor contains the phrase "to him who overcomes." Later, in a summary statement near the end of the book, Christ says, "He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son" (Revelation 21:7). It is obvious that overcoming is a prime activity in a Christian's life.Paul says we are in a warfare against "spiritual wickedness" (Ephesians 6:12, KJV). He also writes that "the carnal mind is enmity against God" (Romans 8:7) and that "those who are in the flesh cannot please God" (verse 8). John says those who "overcome the wicked one" are strong (I John 2:14), and then he says we are not to love the world or its lusts and pride (verses 15-16).We have, therefore, three general areas in which to overcome:
1. We must overcome Satan, his demons, and their evil influence.
2. We must overcome this world and its ways.
3. We must overcome our fleshly, carnal, human nature.
The way that Christ taught to overcome is not only to avoid sin, but to do what is good and right. Paul explains this succinctly to the Christians in Rome, "Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good" (Romans 12:21). So we see that the crown of life is a crown of righteousness, and righteousness can be defined simply as "right doing." An overcomer is victorious over sin!2. We must overcome this world and its ways.
3. We must overcome our fleshly, carnal, human nature.