Is there a moral limit to what we can do to promote mankind?

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[FONT=Calibri, sans-serif]Arewe allowed under God to alter ourselves and our appearance? Are weallowed to change how we were created?[/FONT]


[FONT=Calibri, sans-serif]ConsiderJohn Chapter 9, in which Jesus enables a man who was blind from birthto see. God created all of us in a certain manner. Genesis 1:31 says,“And God saw everything that he had made, and behold, it was verygood. .” So if this man was blind from birth, shouldn't he havestayed that way, since whatever God has created is good? [/FONT]


[FONT=Calibri, sans-serif]Andconsider that God created all of us for a purpose. Jeremiah 29:11says, “For I know the plans I have for you, declares the LORD,plans for welfare and not for evil, to give you a future and a hope.”The man who was born blind, then, must have been born blind for apurpose. That is the default. And yet Jesus comes along, and heenables the man to see, contrary to the way he was born. You canargue that Jesus was sent by God to save us, and that whatever Godallows Jesus to do is toward that end, and so God had planned it thatthe blind man be given his sight by Jesus to show that Jesus has adivine connection with God, contrary to the scribes and Pharisees andeveryone else. [/FONT]


[FONT=Calibri, sans-serif]Youcan argue that Jesus was given this special privilege by God tochange the way God created certain people as part of His Plans. Butwhat does that say about the rest of us, who if it were in our power,would give sight to the blind, understanding to those born deficientin it, and wisdom and light to some of our leaders who are blind toit?[/FONT]


[FONT=Calibri, sans-serif]Psalm139:14 says, “I praise you, for I am fearfully and wonderfullymade. Wonderful are your works; my soul knows it very well.” Thisapplies to all of us, including those of us who will never see, neverunderstand as well as some others, never be good enough to beprofessional athletes, and who will never acquire the wisdom thatsome others have acquired. Since we've been created by God, in ourown way we are wonderfully made. We are wonderfully made in terms ofthe plans god has for us. No matter our capabilities, we are templesof God, as inferred by 2 Corinthians 6:16, and it is upon us astemples that God presides. [/FONT]


[FONT=Calibri, sans-serif]Dowe have a God-given right to increase people's physical capabilitiesas Jesus made the blind man see, considering that, in alluding toGenesis 1:31, God had already seen that we were created good in Hiseyes? Would we be tampering with His plans, if, for example, throughthe benefits of science we can give sight to those who were bornblind? If we could similarly turn born liars into honest people,input a sense of morality upon the immoral, and turn 98-poundweaklings into ballplayers like Barry Bonds, are we interfering withthe works of God?[/FONT]


[FONT=Calibri, sans-serif]Godin Genesis told us to be fruitful, but the inference is that we befruitful with what we were born with. We can gather up the fruit, butcan we alter the tree that gave that fruit so that it gives morefruit than when it was first created? [/FONT]


[FONT=Calibri, sans-serif]Isthere a moral limit to what we can do to promote mankind?[/FONT]

 

[BenFTW]

There is no moral limitation by which we may not through the will of God and leading set others free from the results of the Fall of Man. God's will is shown in His goodness that leads men to repentance, often this goodness is revealed in God divinely delivering people from their burdens.
In fact, one might say we have an obligation to go to the world and proclaim Christ, and as the believers of old, see the miraculous follow suit to confirm the truth of the Word.

I would base my whole argument in this discussion on the fact that the Fall happened and with it deterioration of the genetic pool, hence why we see diseases that are genetic. It is not God's will for people to have all this sickness and disease, such things were considered a curse under His law. Yet His blessings were of divine health and providence. Knowing good from evil, we can take a stand of faith using our God-given authority to set people free unto His glory, as we are His hands and feet moving through the Earth.

 

[Blain]

Well as far as looks like dying hair nose rings tatoos ect. I think that is fine however I think things like getting a sex change is wrong and honestly getting surgery to change your face and such like how my mom got her nose done to make it look smaller and more narrow is probably going to far. I mean I hate how I look but I would never go so far as to change how God made me look like that

 

[OneFaith]

Arewe allowed under God to alter ourselves and our appearance? Are weallowed to change how we were created?


ConsiderJohn Chapter 9, in which Jesus enables a man who was blind from birthto see. God created all of us in a certain manner. Genesis 1:31 says,“And God saw everything that he had made, and behold, it was verygood. .” So if this man was blind from birth, shouldn't he havestayed that way, since whatever God has created is good?


Andconsider that God created all of us for a purpose. Jeremiah 29:11says, “For I know the plans I have for you, declares the LORD,plans for welfare and not for evil, to give you a future and a hope.”The man who was born blind, then, must have been born blind for apurpose. That is the default. And yet Jesus comes along, and heenables the man to see, contrary to the way he was born. You canargue that Jesus was sent by God to save us, and that whatever Godallows Jesus to do is toward that end, and so God had planned it thatthe blind man be given his sight by Jesus to show that Jesus has adivine connection with God, contrary to the scribes and Pharisees andeveryone else.


Youcan argue that Jesus was given this special privilege by God tochange the way God created certain people as part of His Plans. Butwhat does that say about the rest of us, who if it were in our power,would give sight to the blind, understanding to those born deficientin it, and wisdom and light to some of our leaders who are blind toit?


Psalm139:14 says, “I praise you, for I am fearfully and wonderfullymade. Wonderful are your works; my soul knows it very well.” Thisapplies to all of us, including those of us who will never see, neverunderstand as well as some others, never be good enough to beprofessional athletes, and who will never acquire the wisdom thatsome others have acquired. Since we've been created by God, in ourown way we are wonderfully made. We are wonderfully made in terms ofthe plans god has for us. No matter our capabilities, we are templesof God, as inferred by 2 Corinthians 6:16, and it is upon us astemples that God presides.


Dowe have a God-given right to increase people's physical capabilitiesas Jesus made the blind man see, considering that, in alluding toGenesis 1:31, God had already seen that we were created good in Hiseyes? Would we be tampering with His plans, if, for example, throughthe benefits of science we can give sight to those who were bornblind? If we could similarly turn born liars into honest people,input a sense of morality upon the immoral, and turn 98-poundweaklings into ballplayers like Barry Bonds, are we interfering withthe works of God?


Godin Genesis told us to be fruitful, but the inference is that we befruitful with what we were born with. We can gather up the fruit, butcan we alter the tree that gave that fruit so that it gives morefruit than when it was first created?


Isthere a moral limit to what we can do to promote mankind?

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No, it wasn't good for him to be blind. Everything God made was good, but mankind ruined it with sin. Hardships and disease are punishments for sin. Like Jesus said, "What is easier to say- that you are healed or your sins are forgiven?" They mean the same thing most of the time. However it is possible to happen simply to show God's healing, or because someone caught the disease accidentally.

So the man could have been blind from birth in order to show God's healing, or it could have been an abnormality past down through his DNA. Children do not inherit their parents or grandparents sins, but they can inherit just the punishment for sin- to the third or forth generation. Such as AIDS or leperosy.

But the apostles asked Jesus if it was his sins or his parents sins that caused his blindness, and Jesus said neither- that it was for people to see the power of God heal him. But the power of God would not need to heal him if sin never entered the world. There would be no need to show people they could go to God to be healed, cause they would already be with God.

We don't promote mankind persay. God said whatever is good or praise worthy, think on such things. So whatever or whoever is Godly, yes promote it.