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    Exclamation Are Christian virgins different?

    I am both Christian and a virgin; and after hearing people that profess Christianity talk about their sexual experiences--I get spiritually quixotic...I told a friend just earlier tonight as he was going to go through some 'crazy' summer he had last summer, that I didn't want to hear about it...

    I don't know if this is true of Christians or not that have had sex, but it seems even when they are talking about it they only half regret or repent of doing it--it seems as if something in their heart or soul still remembers enjoying it, even if it was wrong... something that I see in their eyes and on their faces that seems to still like or desire it.

    Also, since I have had problems with lust in the past, I feel as if I am drawn into a whirlwind when they start recounting or 'confessing' (if you want to call it that) their sexual sins...

    Do virgins have a spiritual right not to hear the sexual ''confessions" of others, including Christian confessions?

    And yes, are Christian virgins different? See, I know to some extant I have 'lusted' in the past after women--so does that truly count as sex? I know Jesus said, "He who looks at a girl lustfully has already commited adultry in his heart." But how literal are we to take that? I know in a class in college when a teacher asked every virgin to raise their hands, I only half-raised mine as I felt spiritually like a whore. As back then, I was in a chaotic state of thinking I wanted but not wanting to have sex.

    I have had feelings where I felt as if I wanted to have sex, but even then if an opportunity arises, I have always decline (even when physically I almost felt like I couldn't control it)--knowing for some reason it would be hell, or complete madness, to abandon love/light for sensual/physical passion.

    So here is the verse I want contemplated:

    Revelation 14: 3-4

    and they were singing a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and before the elders. No one could learn that song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth. It is these who have not defiled themselves with women, for they are virgins. It is these who follow the Lamb whereever he goes, These have been redeemed from mankind as firstfruits for God and the Lamb, and on their mouth no lie was found, for they are blameless.

    Seems to almost suggest that women are just temptations? Kind of kidding...

    I personally think the Christians 'who wait to have sex until they are married' are missing Christ completely...I do not believe in premarital sex just that we are to keep pushing into Christ until sexual wants (waiting) has no power over us whatsoever.

    Who that didn't love Christ enough wouldn't yearn with all his heart to be one of those 144,000? (I am not claiming that I know what this number is or represents but that they are virgins is clear I believe)

    Shouldn't church be teaching that about sex rather than anything else? Strive to be a virgin, but if you marry there is no sin in that is what I hear Paul pleaing...

    Can you still claim to be virgin if you have thought you wanted to have sex before but repented even of the thoughts?

    Just wondering because often when I hear other people's sex confessions--I just feel like yelling--'stop, don't draw my mind into your sins and you chaotic sinful moments'

    God bless and peace

    tony

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    Well, if your virginity is that important to you, does it make sense to put yourself in situations that would make you compromise your values?

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    No, lusting in your heart is not the same as sex. To say otherwise is absurd.

    People shouldn't have any sexual confessions to others unless they are your spouse, and even then it may not be appropriate, not even in a christian environment.

    I have been in that situation before about raising your hand, and it 's not nice for anyone.

    I know how Christians who fornicate (let's use the proper name here of what it is), gloss over their mistake (they call it a mistake not a sin), as if it is a small thing and not that important.

    Sorry to say, but the 144,000 spots are full up, there's no spots left.. they are taken by Jehovah's Witnesses. (that's a joke, if you know anything about JW doctrine).

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    Celibacy can help to concentrate the mind for prayer in the same way fasting can.

    The edge of desire and suffering we feel in fasting can spur us to seek God. God has promised us as Christians that when we seek him with our whole hearts we will receive him.

    In this Lenten season, I can perhaps somewhat empathize with those who hold to chastity out of obedience.

    I know very few men who aren't drawn into lust in the current cultural setting.

    I admire your chastity, sir. It is a testament to others and I wouldn't be ashamed of your obedience to God.

    I suppose I'd be troubled also if others recounted their sins to me (ones I was also tempted of) instead of confessing of them in grief and repentance. Even in repentance I'd prefer if the sin was not the focus but the Christ we abuse who comes to our rescue despite our many sins against him.

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    Default Re: Are Christian virgins different?

    The differance is God.
    peace be to you
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    Quote Originally Posted by MahogonySnail View Post
    No, lusting in your heart is not the same as sex. To say otherwise is absurd.

    People shouldn't have any sexual confessions to others unless they are your spouse, and even then it may not be appropriate, not even in a christian environment.

    I have been in that situation before about raising your hand, and it 's not nice for anyone.

    I know how Christians who fornicate (let's use the proper name here of what it is), gloss over their mistake (they call it a mistake not a sin), as if it is a small thing and not that important.

    Sorry to say, but the 144,000 spots are full up, there's no spots left.. they are taken by Jehovah's Witnesses. (that's a joke, if you know anything about JW doctrine).
    I got the JW joke btw lol

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