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thanks big uce.
i have it now and i like it. even when you copy a verse from the middle of the chapter it still types it in automatically when you paste it here. i only highlighted titus 2:13 and it automatically types it in for me. amazing. thanks a lot. God bless u.

Titus 2:13 (KJV)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
Make sure you download that Free HCSB, you will like it, and the Free CSB is a good one too, they are very similar. And if you plan on adding any of the purchase books, WATCH FOR THEIR SALES. Some times they post a 20% off coupon on that Sale Page. Their Sales and Coupons are in the right hand column when you first launch the program.

Here is a tip. When you are doing Search if you do not know how to spell a word, but know what it starts with and ends with just type the first letter or two and then * and then the last letter or two, which is telling the Search Program to find every every word in the Bible that begins with those letters and ends with those letters. For example, if you TYPE: on*us, you are telling the program to find all the words that begin with on and end with us.

There are only two words, and both of them are first names: Onesimus
and Onesiphorus. I like Onesiphorus, because HE ENCOURAGED PAUL, when he was chained to wall in the dungeon sewer system of Rome. There are only two verses in the Bible that mention his name, and I have a hard time remembering how to spell his name.
 
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I do not know if this video is a hundred percent TRUE, a story told too many times, embellishing it a little more each time.

This Video is about Archeologist, Ron Wyatt in his Search and his supposed discover of the Ark of the Covenant. Ron Wyatt died of Cancer on August 4, 1999. I post this, not because I am convinced it is 100% TRUE, but because it is very interesting and may give us some insight about the how and why GOD may be going to restore the Ark of the Covenant to the THIRD TEMPLE when it is built. Did I see some signs of embellishment in video? Yes, but not enough to totally rule it out as fake, or to confirm it as truth. So take the info in this video, as possibly based on some factual discoveries, but probably has some embellishments in the story designed to sell books. That is my best opinion of this video. If someone wants to discuss what parts of the Video, that I think were embellished, just ask and we will discuss it.

[video=youtube;rN8g8ud44HY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN8g8ud44HY[/video]
 
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Now weather they rebuild the temple or not I don't know. But does it matter? What use is the temple when the true sacrifice is in heaven?

What use is an earthly temple when we are the temple of God?

All this rebuilding the temple Sounds a little like backwards thinking to me.
 

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Now weather they rebuild the temple or not I don't know. But does it matter? What use is the temple when the true sacrifice is in heaven?

What use is an earthly temple when we are the temple of God?

All this rebuilding the temple Sounds a little like backwards thinking to me.
We are the Temple of the Holy Spirit, that is true. BUT GOD IS NOT FINISHED WITH FULFILLING PROPHECIES PERTAINING TO HOW HE WILL BRING THE WHOLE NATION ISRAEL TO KNOW HIM, and that includes a TEMPLE OF GOD ON THE SAME SITE AS SOLOMON"S TEMPLE. BLOOD SACRIFICES may be FINISHED, but THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER SACRIFICES and FEASTS THAT are are COMMANDED TO TAKE PLACE IN THE HOUSE OF GOD, THE TEMPLE. Such as the FIRST FRUITS OFFERING. It pays to spend a little time studying the Seven Feasts of Israel and why they did what they DID in those FEASTS. AND why JESUS said not on Jot nor Tittle will pass from the Law, Until heaven (our atmosphere) and earth Pass Away. THAT means there will be a TEMPLE in the Future 70th Week of Daniel, and throughout the 1000 year Millennium, when HE rules the Earth from the THRONE OF DAVID.

Zechariah 14:9-17 (HCSB)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] On that day Yahweh will become King over all the earth—Yahweh alone, and His name alone.
[SUP]10 [/SUP] All the land from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem will be changed into a plain. But ⌊Jerusalem⌋ will be raised up and will remain on its site from the Benjamin Gate to the place of the First Gate, to the Corner Gate, and from the Tower of Hananel to the royal winepresses.
[SUP]11 [/SUP] People will live there, and never again will there be a curse of complete destruction. So Jerusalem will dwell in security.
[SUP]12 [/SUP] This will be the plague the LORD strikes all the peoples with, who have warred against Jerusalem: their flesh will rot while they stand on their feet, their eyes will rot in their sockets, and their tongues will rot in their mouths.
[SUP]13 [/SUP] On that day a great panic from the LORD will be among them, so that each will seize the hand of another, and the hand of one will rise against the other.
[SUP]14 [/SUP] Judah will also fight at Jerusalem, and the wealth of all the surrounding nations will be collected: gold, silver, and clothing in great abundance.
[SUP]15 [/SUP] The same plague as the previous one will strike the horses, mules, camels, donkeys, and all the animals that are in those camps.
[SUP]16 [/SUP] Then all the survivors from the nations that came against Jerusalem will go up year after year to worship the King, the LORD of Hosts, and to celebrate the Festival of Booths.
{That is also known as the Festival of Tabernacles. Do you even know HOW?}
[SUP]17 [/SUP] Should any of the families of the earth not go up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of Hosts, rain will not fall on them.



NOW WHERE DO YOU THINK HE WILL PUT HIS THRONE WHEN HE TAKES HIS RIGHTFUL PLACE ON THE THRONE OF DAVID?

I think it will be in the Holy of Holies in the rebuilt TEMPLE in the City of DAVID.




https://www.levitt.tv/media/series/DSFI
 
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The bible says there will be a third temple, but not made by mans hands.

Jerusalem, the future headquarters city of the Earth (Haggai 2:6-8)
Gods latter house shall be greater than of the former (Haggai 2:9)

The Eternal has chosen Jerusalem. (1Kings 11:13) And the Lord shall inherit
Judah his portion in the holy land, and shall choose Jerusalem again.Zech 2:12

The whole world will revolve around Jerusalem in the Millennium. And
the whole universe will revolve around Jerusalem after the Millennium.

You simply are not walking by faith, the unseen eternal but are walking by sight as that seen, the temporal .

I cannot think of one good reason why we would walk by sight (the temporal) rather than by faith (the unseen eternal.)

I would offer in order to seek the approval of God not seen, first things first. God is not a man as us never was never could be. He who is not a man as us remains without mother or father beginning of Spirit life or end thereof.

There will not be a Son of man born of woman again (a fleshly Jesus) The one time demonstration of the lamb of God slain from the foundation of the world will not be repeated.He was shown as sacrificed once.

2Co 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

The whole idea of a third temple is not a biblical teaching. The veil is rent used to indicate Christ had come in the flesh (the temporal). Resurrecting the temple will not change Christ has come in the flesh.

Because we walk by faith in respect to the eternal things not seen and not by sight, the law of faith must be maintained when rightly dividing His word of truth .

Without parables used in ceremonial laws to preach the gospel Christ spoke not. The whole temple to include the furnishing all speak of certain aspects of the suffering of Christ beforehand and the glory that did follow, the first resurrection ,the promised opening of the graves

1Pe 1:11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.

The purpose of a temple as that seen the temporal was used to signify the eternal Spirit of Christ that dwells in the heart of those who have been born again.

It cannot be emphasized enough we a walk by faith the unseen eternal, not by sight that seen the temporal.

The visible temporal was used up until the time of reformation. The reformation restored the government of God to the time of the judges before they were kings and temples used in parables in order to preach the gospel beforehand .

The veil is rent signifying the end of temporal .The temple made up of many lively stones that forms the spiritual house of God the church is Christ in us.

If any man has not the Spirit of Christ they do not belong to Him.



Revelation 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

Rev 21:22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.

The temporal land as that seen Jerusalem represented the eternal land the New Jerusalem ,not seen ,the faith principle.


These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country.And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned.But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city. Heb 11:13
 
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Now weather they rebuild the temple or not I don't know. But does it matter? What use is the temple when the true sacrifice is in heaven?

What use is an earthly temple when we are the temple of God?

All this rebuilding the temple Sounds a little like backwards thinking to me.
Exactly ,upside down.We walk by faith not by sight.

Isaiah 29:16 Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter's clay: for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not? or shall the thing framed say of him that framed it, He had no understanding?
 

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Exactly ,upside down.We walk by faith not by sight.

Isaiah 29:16 Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter's clay: for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not? or shall the thing framed say of him that framed it, He had no understanding?
The Third TEMPLE refer to the ONE that will be built to fulfill the 70th week of Daniel STILL IN THE FUTURE, the FINAL Seven Years of the Gentiles Trampling over JERUSALEM. You are talking about the TEMPLE CHRIST REIGNS FROM, which HE HIMSELF WILL MOST LIKELY BUILD is the FOURTH AND FINAL TEMPLE. The Third TEMPLE exhists during WWIII, the Rider of the Red Horse, and Throughout the Pouring out of God's Wrath, and Throughout the FINAL BATTLES OF ALL THE WORLD'S ARMIES over running Jerusalem, trying to STOP CHRIST FROM TAKING BACK THE EARTH. I doubt if there will be much left of the THIRD TEMPLE by the end of those Seven Years, the 70th Week of Daniel.

This is what it looked just before the Roman Army tore down every Block of the TEMPLE.



Now imagine what Jerusalem will look like after WWIII, and especially after the Final Battle of ALL the World's Armies attacking Jerusalem, as CHRIST COMES BACK:




Zechariah 14:2-5 (HCSB)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle. The city will be captured, the houses looted, and the women raped. Half the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be removed from the city.
[SUP]3 [/SUP] Then the LORD will go out to fight against those nations as He fights on a day of battle.
[SUP]4 [/SUP] On that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, which faces Jerusalem on the east. The Mount of Olives will be split in half from east to west, forming a huge valley, so that half the mountain will move to the north and half to the south.
[SUP]5 [/SUP] You will flee by My mountain valley, for the valley of the mountains will extend to Azal. You will flee as you fled from the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Then the LORD my God will come and all the holy ones with Him.

Revelation 19:19-21 (HCSB)
[SUP]19 [/SUP] Then I saw the beast, the kings of the earth, and their armies gathered together to wage war against the rider on the horse and against His army.
[SUP]20 [/SUP] But the beast was taken prisoner, and along with him the false prophet, who had performed the signs in his presence. He deceived those who accepted the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image with these signs. Both of them were thrown alive into the lake of fire that burns with sulfur.
[SUP]21 [/SUP] The rest were killed with the sword that came from the mouth of the rider on the horse, and all the birds were filled with their flesh.

Zechariah 14:12-17 (HCSB)
[SUP]12 [/SUP] This will be the plague the LORD strikes all the peoples with, who have warred against Jerusalem: their flesh will rot while they stand on their feet, their eyes will rot in their sockets, and their tongues will rot in their mouths.
[SUP]13 [/SUP] On that day a great panic from the LORD will be among them, so that each will seize the hand of another, and the hand of one will rise against the other.
[SUP]14 [/SUP] Judah will also fight at Jerusalem, and the wealth of all the surrounding nations will be collected: gold, silver, and clothing in great abundance.
[SUP]15 [/SUP] The same plague as the previous one will strike the horses, mules, camels, donkeys, and all the animals that are in those camps.
[SUP]16 [/SUP] Then all the survivors from the nations that came against Jerusalem will go up year after year to worship the King, the LORD of Hosts, and to celebrate the Festival of Booths.
[SUP]17 [/SUP] Should any of the families of the earth not go up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of Hosts, rain will not fall on them.

Ezekiel 35:1-15 (GW)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] The LORD spoke his word to me. He said,
[SUP]2 [/SUP] “Son of man, turn to Mount Seir, and prophesy against it.
[SUP]3 [/SUP] Tell it, ‘This is what the Almighty LORD says: I'm against you, Mount Seir. I will use my power against you, and you will become a wasteland.
[SUP]4 [/SUP] I will turn your cities into ruins, and you will become a wasteland. Then you will know that I am the LORD.
[SUP]5 [/SUP] “‘You have always been an enemy of Israel. You deserted the people of Israel in battle when they were in trouble during their final punishment.
[SUP]6 [/SUP] That is why, as I live, declares the Almighty LORD, I will let you be murdered. Murderers will pursue you. Since you don't hate murdering people, murder will pursue you.
[SUP]7 [/SUP] I will turn Mount Seir into a barren wasteland, and I will destroy everyone who comes or goes from there.
[SUP]8 [/SUP] I will fill your mountains with those who have been killed. Those killed in battle will fall on your hills and in your valleys and ravines.
[SUP]9 [/SUP] I will turn you into a permanent wasteland. Your cities will not be lived in. Then you will know that I am the LORD.
[SUP]10 [/SUP] “‘You said, “These two nations, Israel and Judah, along with their land, belong to us. We will take possession of them.” But the LORD was there.
[SUP]11 [/SUP] That is why, as I live, declares the Almighty LORD, I will do to you what you did to them. When you were angry and jealous, you acted hatefully toward them.
[SUP]12 [/SUP] Then you will know that I, the LORD, heard all the insults that you spoke about the mountains of Israel. You said, “They have been deserted and handed over to us to use up.”
[SUP]13 [/SUP] You bragged and continually talked against me. I heard you.
[SUP]14 [/SUP] “‘This is what the Almighty LORD says: The whole earth will be glad when I turn you into a wasteland.
[SUP]15 [/SUP] You were happy when the land of Israel became a wasteland. I will do the same thing to you. You will become a wasteland, Mount Seir, and so will all of Edom. Then you will know that I am the LORD.'”


 
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What country/nation would the edomites be in the 21st century? Saudis?
 

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Interesting. Is it not the Jordan clergy that is "controlling" the temple mount currently?
Could be, but according to those verse's I quoted, Jordan will claim to have Israel's back, and when the big attack comes, Jordan will back away and let Israel be turned into a wasteland, and rejoice over it.
 

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We are the Temple of the Holy Spirit, that is true. BUT GOD IS NOT FINISHED WITH FULFILLING PROPHECIES PERTAINING TO HOW HE WILL BRING THE WHOLE NATION ISRAEL TO KNOW HIM, and that includes a TEMPLE OF GOD ON THE SAME SITE AS SOLOMON"S TEMPLE. BLOOD SACRIFICES may be FINISHED, but THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER SACRIFICES and FEASTS THAT are are COMMANDED TO TAKE PLACE IN THE HOUSE OF GOD, THE TEMPLE. Such as the FIRST FRUITS OFFERING. It pays to spend a little time studying the Seven Feasts of Israel and why they did what they DID in those FEASTS. AND why JESUS said not on Jot nor Tittle will pass from the Law, Until heaven (our atmosphere) and earth Pass Away. THAT means there will be a TEMPLE in the Future 70th Week of Daniel, and throughout the 1000 year Millennium, when HE rules the Earth from the THRONE OF DAVID.

Zechariah 14:9-17 (HCSB)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] On that day Yahweh will become King over all the earth—Yahweh alone, and His name alone.
[SUP]10 [/SUP] All the land from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem will be changed into a plain. But ⌊Jerusalem⌋ will be raised up and will remain on its site from the Benjamin Gate to the place of the First Gate, to the Corner Gate, and from the Tower of Hananel to the royal winepresses.
[SUP]11 [/SUP] People will live there, and never again will there be a curse of complete destruction. So Jerusalem will dwell in security.
[SUP]12 [/SUP] This will be the plague the LORD strikes all the peoples with, who have warred against Jerusalem: their flesh will rot while they stand on their feet, their eyes will rot in their sockets, and their tongues will rot in their mouths.
[SUP]13 [/SUP] On that day a great panic from the LORD will be among them, so that each will seize the hand of another, and the hand of one will rise against the other.
[SUP]14 [/SUP] Judah will also fight at Jerusalem, and the wealth of all the surrounding nations will be collected: gold, silver, and clothing in great abundance.
[SUP]15 [/SUP] The same plague as the previous one will strike the horses, mules, camels, donkeys, and all the animals that are in those camps.
[SUP]16 [/SUP] Then all the survivors from the nations that came against Jerusalem will go up year after year to worship the King, the LORD of Hosts, and to celebrate the Festival of Booths.
{That is also known as the Festival of Tabernacles. Do you even know HOW?}
[SUP]17 [/SUP] Should any of the families of the earth not go up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of Hosts, rain will not fall on them.



NOW WHERE DO YOU THINK HE WILL PUT HIS THRONE WHEN HE TAKES HIS RIGHTFUL PLACE ON THE THRONE OF DAVID?

I think it will be in the Holy of Holies in the rebuilt TEMPLE in the City of DAVID.




https://www.levitt.tv/media/series/DSFI
Interesting point of view. I disagree but that is ok. blessings.
 

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Here is a useful quote from the Jewish Historian Josephus, about our LORD, Jesus Christ. Yes. there are four other men with the name Jesus that Josephus talks about, but this quote is clearly about the Messiah, our Lord, and it appears that Josephus, before He wrote this, had become a Christian.

THE COMPLETE WORKS OF FLAVIUS JOSEPHUS
THE ANTIQUITIES OF THE JEWS
BOOK 18

CHAPTER 3
SECTION 3

3. Now there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man; for he was a doer of wonderful works, a teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of the Jews and many of the Gentiles. He was [the] Christ. And when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him; for he appeared to them alive again the third day; as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him. And the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not extinct at this day.


The Works of Flavius Josephus.
 

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Here is a sermon about HOW ISRAEL will get SAVED During the Great Tribulation, and on into the Millenial Reign of Jesus Christ:


[video=youtube;3uWIohv0HuQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uWIohv0HuQ[/video]
 

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Knowledge that Mount Zion was cut down has been known for awhile, but the info that presented earlier that Prince of Judah, Simon bar Kokhba in 132 ordered Mount Zion turned into a Rock Quarry. That wabecause the Romans defiled even the bedrock according to Jewish Beliefs, because the Romans built a Temple to Jupiter on the site of Solomon's Temple. This has apparently validated more recently by historians and with recent archeological discoveries, they are taking a serious look at ruins and artifact found in the City of David.

The Bar Kokhba revolt (Hebrew: מרד בר כוכבא‎; Mered Bar Kokhba) was a rebellion of the Jews of the Roman province of Judea, led by Simon bar Kokhba, against the Roman Empire. Fought circa 132–136 CE,[SUP][3][/SUP] it was the last of three major Jewish–Roman wars, so it is also known as The Third Jewish–Roman War or The Third Jewish Revolt. Some historians also refer to it as the Second Revolt of Judea, not counting the Kitos War (115–117 CE), which had only marginally been fought in Judea.

The revolt erupted as a result of ongoing religious and political tensions in Judea following on the failure of the First Revolt in 66−70 CE. These tensions were related to the establishment of a large Roman presence in Judea, changes in administrative life and the economy, together with the outbreak and suppression of Jewish revolts from Mesopotamia to Libya and Cyrenaica.[SUP][4][/SUP] The proximate reasons seem to centre around the construction of a new city, Aelia Capitolina over the ruins of Jerusalem and the erection of a temple to Jupiter on the Temple Mount.[SUP][5][/SUP] The Church Fathers and rabbinic literature emphasize governor of Judaea Rufus' role in provoking the revolt.[SUP][6][/SUP]

In 132, a revolt led by Bar Kokhba quickly spread from Modi'in across the country, cutting off the Roman garrison in Jerusalem.[SUP][7][/SUP] Roman Governor Rufus then unsuccessfully engaged the early phase of the uprising. Rufus is last recorded in 132, the first year of the rebellion; whether he died or was replaced is uncertain, but Gargilius Antiques is recorded as the Roman Prefect of Judea during the conflict.[SUP][8][/SUP] Initial rebel victories over the Romans established an independent state of Israel over parts of Judea for over two years, as Bar Kokhba took the title of Nasi ("prince"). Simon bar Kokhba, the commander of the revolt, was regarded by many Jews as the Messiah, who would restore their national independence.[SUP][9][/SUP] This setback, however, caused Roman Emperor Hadrian to assemble a large scale Roman force from across the Empire, which invaded Judea in 134 under the command of Roman General Sextus Julius Severus. The Roman army was made of six full legions with auxiliaries and elements from up to six additional legions, which finally managed to crush therevolt.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bar_Kokhba_revolt

Here is the proof that Historians have known that Mount Zion was torn down, was a known Fact for awhile, but rarely mentioned. This short video was posted Jun 28, 2013.

[video=youtube;YwsGkNkaiUk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwsGkNkaiUk[/video]
 
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Julian the Apostate the last Pagan Emperor of Rome and Nephew of Constantine attempted to repaganise the Empire. Among the acts of his short reign was the giving of permission for the Jews to rebuild the Temple. The project was stopped when balls of fire appeared among the foundations burning those involved in the construction. The cause is believed to be due to an Earthquake that happened in the Galilee area in 363AD. I wonder if those mysterious great balls of fire will make another appearence if another attempt is made
 

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Maps and drawings to help pinpoint various points of interest.




A MORE DETAILED DRAWING OF WHERE THE POOL SILOAM IS LOCATED:






The TEMPLE would have been at the southern end of the OPHEL, according to the Archeologists. And the HUGE Fort Antonia would be North of the actual Temple location, and the remnants of Fort Antonia Wall, were misidentified as the Temple outer wall, therefore in the 400's B.C. the Rabbis mistook the Center of Fort Antonia as the Temple Mount. The Ophel is now part of the City of David, where at the time of Christ, the Ophel was part of Jerusalem.



You can see the Pool of Siloam just outside the western wall of the City of David, in the above model.

The right picture is the Pool of Siloam today, during the dry season. At the time of Christ, it would have been kept full year round via the Gihon Springs, that flowed through Hezekiah's Tunnel.

The Correct location of the TEMPLE at the time of Christ, remember the TEMPLE always faced DUE EAST. East of the Praetorium in Fort Antonia in this drawing, in the open space of that courtyard, is where the Dome of the Rock is located today.





I think this Artist is off on the location of Eastern Gate of the Temple, because I think I remember in one of the videos or something I read, maybe even Josephus, that from the Eastern Gate of the Temple, you could see the Curtain of the Holy of Holies when all the doors were open. I also think this Artist is off on the size of the Court of the Gentiles on the left of the Temple, because I remember reading that the smallest Courtyard was on the right side of the TEMPLE, while the Court of the Gentiles was three or four times that size. However, showing the TALLEST TOWER in the southeast corner of Fort Antonia, certainly is correct, and I do remember reading that in the writings of Josephus. That was so the Roman Guards could look down into the Courtyards of the Temple, to watch for an Uprising. One quick warning from that tower guard, and hundreds of Roman soldiers would pour out of those barracks and be running across those two Causeways (labeled Double Colonnades here) that join Fort Antonia to the Temple Wall. I major battle between the Jews and the Roman 10th Legion took place on those Causeways, to which Josephus was an eyewitness. And the uprising was put down. The Western Wall where the Jews pray at, would behind the barracks 3, 4, and 5, counting from the left to the right on that western side. That is probably the biggest obstacle to getting the Jews to take the Archeologists discoveries serious. They have to be willing to admit that they have been praying at the wrong wall since the early 400's.
 

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A while back, we were discussing where was the brook that lied west of the Temple in the City of David, I guessed at that time that it was the street or road going up through the center of the Modern City of David. I now have found biblical proof that my guess was actually correct. There are two main Streets or Roads going through the City of David. The one on the right leads down into the Kidron Valley while the other comes up through the center of town, the Central Valley Road, ends below and slightly left of the steel domed mosque. That would have been that brook the Prophet described. The second picture is a model of the City of David placing that brook in the same location as the Central Valley Road, and even shows several bridges across it.






Archaeology | City Of David - Locations of Archeological diggings in the City of David.


Now when the Jews went into the Babylonian Captivity, the Babylonians destroyed Jerusalem and the City of David especially the WALLS, because it was too well Fortified, with the Gihon Springs, to leave for an enemy to just walk in and take over. So the City and walls were destroyed by the Babylonians, and the Romans.

Artaxerxerses, Nehemiah chapter 2, gives the command to rebuild Jerusalem and the City of David (a suburb even then); and the King sends Nehemiah to survey the damage to estimate how much money and supplies it will take to rebuild it all.


Nehemiah 2:13-15 (ASV)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] And I went out by night by the valley gate, even toward the jackal's well, and to the dung gate, and viewed the walls of Jerusalem, which were broken down, and the gates thereof were consumed with fire.
[SUP]14 [/SUP] Then I went on to the fountain gate and to the king's pool: but there was no place for the beast that was under me to pass.
[SUP]15 [/SUP] Then went I up in the night by the brook, and viewed the wall; and I turned back, and entered by the valley gate, and so returned.





Clearly, even though the City of David was a suburb, it was Considered PART OF JERUSALEM at the Time of Nehemiah.

Now follow Nehemiah's root on this part of Nehemiah's inspection tour in the verses above. He goes out of Jerusalem through the Valley Gate on the west side of the City of David, obviously on a full moon night. He inspects all of the wall going down to the Dung Gate along the Wall, noting the damage. Then He goes around the corner to Fountain Gate, and finds it collapsed and unpassable by a horse or mule. SO HE THEN GOES UP by the Brook (apparently leaving his horse or mule behind unless he went back through the Dung Gate, and therefore, probably on foot, he surveys the damage to the Fountain Gate and walls from the inside. NOTE: from that position BOTH the Kidron Valley brook and Hinnom Valley brook (if it was the rainy season) were still DOWNHILL from there, since Nehemiah was at the Fountain Gate, and Nehemiah said he went up to the brook (fed by the Gihon Springs, during the dry season those brooks may have only had a little trickle of water coming off the Central Valley brook.) And then Nehemiah rode back to the Valley Gate and entered Jerusalem again. ALSO NOTE: The King's Pool, is apparently another name for the Pool of Shiloam.
 
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Who said it's God that will build the temple? It's so-called Jews who want to do it.

Why does scripture say the anti-Christ will stand in the temple in Judea? Why warn Judeans to flee to the mountains?

If the so-called Jews knew that God didn't want animal sacrifices, wouldn't they worship Lord Jesus? Hint: they don't understand.
People are confusing the Third Temple, not even Realizing that the TEMPLE HE BUILDS in the Millenial Kingdom would be the 4th TEMPLE.

GOD is actively involved seeing that EVERYTHING HE PROPHESIED IS FULFILLED.

GOD Keeps HIS PROMISES, and the Promise for the Descendents of ISRAEL is to enherit the Land of Canaan, was an ETERNAL COVENANT, thus when at the Second Coming when the LORD of ARMIES is going to DESTROY all combatants in and around Jerusalem and Israel, HE makes a way for those bloodline descendants of Israel, to escape to the Mountains (the 144,0000 and maybe others), to repopulate the Land of Israel in the Millenial KINGDOM, keeping the Eternal Covenant going. Read Zech. chapter 14.

Most Christians do NOT realize that there are several other Feasts and Offerings that went on in the TEMPLE besides the blood Sacrifices. Such as the Grain Offering (kind of like our Thanksgiving), First Fruits Wave Offering, Feast of Unleaven Bread, etc.

Satan (Lucifer) has always coveted the Position of GOD. The Presence of the Holy Spirit here on Earth has always been the power that only let's Satan go just SO FAR. But when the Holy Spirit is "taken out of the way", when we Go to the Wedding of the Lamb in Heaven, the Holy Spirit goes with us, because Jesus said He would NEVER LEAVE US. Satan by possessing a World Dictator, (perhaps Leader of the E.U., a revival of the Roman Empire) very quickly after that comes to FULL POWER as Antichrist. He breaks his 7 Seven Year Peace Treaty with Israel, and marches into the Holy of Holies, (probably killing any priests that try to stop him), and takes the ONLY SEAT IN THE TEMPLE, the MERCY SEAT on the Ark of the Covenant. AND SITS ON IT PROCLAIMING THAT NOW HE IS GOD.

That will be a VERY BLOODY TIME IN ISRAEL. Anyone refusing to bow to the Antichrist as GOD will be BEHEADED. In that 3.5 years prior to the Antichrist sitting on the MERCY SEAT. The TWO WITNESSES, convert the 144,000 Jews, and probably multitudes more, and then the 144,000 most likely follow their mentors and start converting more multitudes of OTHERS. Only the 144,000 are selled from harm in their Mortal bodies. The rest of the converted Jews will become part of the Martyred Tribulation Saints, unless they flee in exile via another route. Read through the book of Revelation SLOWLY asking GOD to give you spiritual understanding of what is Symbolism and what is LITERAL.