THIRD TEMPLE NEWS

[Bookends]

Because the Prophecy is that Jesus will sit on David's throne.

You are confused.

The term "David's Throne" does not mean that it belongs to David. It means that the Throne, which belongs to God BTW, the Old Testament teaches that, was a kingship dynasty started through human linage by David. It never belonged to David. David never owned it! The kingship dynasty started by David ends with Christ taking over the throne forever. The throne is not an earthly one, but a Godly one and Christ is sitting on it now.

Acts 2:

[FONT=&quot]29 “Men and brethren, let me speak freely to you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his tomb is with us to this day. 30 Therefore, being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him that of the fruit of his body, according to the flesh, He would raise up the Christ to sit on his throne,[e] 31 he, foreseeing this, spoke concerning the resurrection of the Christ, that His soul was not left in Hades, nor did His flesh see corruption. 32 This Jesus God has raised up, of which we are all witnesses. 33 Therefore being exalted to the right hand of God, and having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, He poured out this which you now see and hear.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]34 “For David did not ascend into the heavens, but he says himself:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][FONT=&quot]‘The Lord said to my Lord,
“Sit at My right hand,
35 Till I make Your enemies Your footstool.”’[f][/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]36 “Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ.”


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I pray that God give you understanding.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

YEP, and between WWIII (full blown nukier), post War diseases and radiation deaths, GOD's Wrath, Plagues, HUGE hail stones, Mountain Size Meteors, Poisoned Red Water, Ultra Severe Draught, Beheadings, etc., etc.; I agree with Ahwatukee; there will be less than 10% of the World's population left.

it could be WW4 for all we know. But yes, it is future, And many will die, Scripture said 1/3 will die in one event, And it will be so bad, the kings of the earth will beg God to make the rocks fall on them so they can die,

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Is this the "let's post conspiracy theories" thread? Wild speculation for sure.

Also, God doesn't use hydrogen bombs.

No but man can, And God has used men to punish each other since the beginning of time,

 

[eternally-gratefull]

We are the temple, stop looking towards buildings. The enemy will seek to sit on the throne of the hearts of men. Make sure it is reserved for only One.

God also prophesied Israel would rebuild. a man of sin would abominate, And when jesus returns, he will sit in the "house of God" Which is and has always been a place of worship for the people of Israel.

In fact it says all the nations of the world will come visit jesus there.

So while yes, the gospel is the most important thing, and these discussion should not get heated because they are not salvic. We should not just count out prophesy If God said it will happen, it will.

 

[Bladerunner]

AND I THINK IT SAY A THIRD OF THE WORLD'S POPULATION WILL DIE IN THE WAR, FOLLOWED BY ANOTHER FOURTH OF THE WORLD'S POPULATION IN THE POST WAR TRIBULATIONS LIKE FAMINE, SICKNESS, RADIO-ACTIVE FALLOUT, SEVERE DROUGHT, BEHEADINGS, ETC.

The 1/4 of the earth verse is in rev 6:8 which is long before 9:15. By the time 9:15 gets there, the wars among nations will be over...Rem..the antichrist does not come to make war but restore the peace the wars had taken away.

Rev 9:15 are four angels who have been training a long time for this event.... Again the nations and the Beast are ruling at this time as this is well within Daniel's 70th week. These angels are God's soldiers and will kill indiscriminately.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I know what you're saying, Israel is rumored to have the 'Samson option' to nuke everyone in the world if they are attacked.

But look

Zechariah 14:12
And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

Exodus 9:14
For I will at this time send all my plagues upon thine heart, and upon thy servants, and upon thy people; that thou mayest know that there is none like me in all the earth.

I feel like, if God wants to be known by people, that they should give Him glory and recognize Him... why would He use nuclear weapons and control planes and rockets and stuff like that? People would just think that a nuclear weapon did it, wouldn't they?

I'm inclined to believe it's an actual plague and not a fallout.

smh, Who said God is doing it.

Did God wipe out the northern kingdom of Israel in punishment, Or did he have the nation of assyria do it? Did God wipe out the southern kingdom of Judah, or did he have babylon do it?

Some study of the OT might be usefull in how God uses nations to punish nations, and how God will then punish those nations.

ps. Israel is not doing the fighting, They are being protected from the final beast, God is the one who punishes, and who are we to decide what God uses (how did God destroy sodam and Gomorrah?)

 

[eternally-gratefull]

A form of Premillennialism was around since 2-3 century, not dispensationalism. A dispensationalist is mostly defined by a future separation of the Church and Jew as God's economy.

Show me the proof of any Christian author, from 2 century until Darby of any writing/commentary of a future Jewish Nation as God main economy with another earthly temple in which animal sacrifices are re-established.

The Late Great Planet Chruch:
<br>[video]https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x41qlhw[/video]

ever heard of the bible

This strawman argument is one of the worse arguments I have ever heard, It is a catholic tactic and should not be used by people. because it does not help your case any more than it helps the roman catholic cause.

 

[Bladerunner]

Hey BladeRunner,

My two cents is that, personally, I believe that the scripture means what it says. And I don't believe that is a matter of punctuation, but of context. There are two things within the context that would demonstrate that they both do kill a fourth of the earth population.

1). The context tells how that fourth is going to be killed by sword, famine, plague and wild beasts of the earth

2). Hades is said to be following death which would infer people dying

In addition, it would make no sense for the scripture to say that they are given authority over a fourth of the earth and then for that not to take place. Remember, these are plagues of God's wrath, so if it says that a fourth is going to be killed and it states how they are going to be killed, then that is most likely exactly what is going to happen.

I personally believe that at the opening of the 4th seal, that a fourth of the earths population will literally be killed by the means presented.

Also, regarding the so-called gap in between the gathering of the church and the establishing of the seven years, there is just no information that there even is a gap. In fact, the gathering of the church would be the perfect intro for the antichrist.

Hi Ahwatukee.... it seems we disagree again which is ok. Since the Church will not be here to endure these events, it is of little consequences to us. However, your opinion and my opinion give the ones who are not in the Church (and they know who they are) something to think about.

The bottom line is that Billions will die during this time that the Anti-christ is establishing himself as a leader who conquers the earth through peace maneuvers and the time that the temple is beginning to be rebuilt by his confirmation (enforcement) which is the beginning of Daniel's 70th week.

Good to talk to you again my friend.
Hope you have a Blessed Day
Blade

 

[Issachar92]

The temple is right around the corner.
Get ready y'all! The Lord is gonna return real quick!

The iranian president said Israel won't exist in a 100 years; lemme make my own prediction, Iran won't exist in a 100 years.
And lemme assure you, Israel is here to stay, and Israel aint going away without a fight and for the nations who are against it, theres gonna be hell to pay, read Zechariah 14 it aint looking too good for them nations who attack Israel.

trofimus whats wrong with you dude, you are saying that this thread is anti-christian? nobody is worshiping Israel, but ya gotta realize that GOD AINT DONE with Israel, and you best get used to it because the Lord will be ruling the world FROM Israel, Jerusalem.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

The temple is right around the corner.
Get ready y'all! The Lord is gonna return real quick!

The iranian president said Israel won't exist in a 100 years; lemme make my own prediction, Iran won't exist in a 100 years.
And lemme assure you, Israel is here to stay, and Israel aint going away without a fight and for the nations who are against it, theres gonna be hell to pay, read Zechariah 14 it aint looking too good for them nations who attack Israel.

trofimus whats wrong with you dude, you are saying that this thread is anti-christian? nobody is worshiping Israel, but ya gotta realize that GOD AINT DONE with Israel, and you best get used to it because the Lord will be ruling the world FROM Israel, Jerusalem.

they both will be around, living in peace. Lets not judge nations, Leave that up to God. we are to love all nations and pray they all come to God.

 

[Stephen63]

A thread about worshipping Israel.

A very antichristian thread.

I don't see that at all.

 

[Bladerunner]

A form of Premillennialism was around since 2-3 century, not dispensationalism. A dispensationalist is mostly defined by a future separation of the Church and Jew as God's economy.

Show me the proof of any Christian author, from 2 century until Darby of any writing/commentary of a future Jewish Nation as God main economy with another earthly temple in which animal sacrifices are re-established.

The Late Great Planet Chruch:
<br>[video]https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x41qlhw[/video]

I can......How about Jesus as an author...Is that good enough??? I know, He was in the 1st century which is outside of your boundaries. It does show the idea of separation of the Church and Israel was from the beginning. If you cannot take this author's word to heart and believe it, then you got bigger problems than trying to find 2nd and 3rd century authors to dispute or confirm what Jesus said:

God made a covenant with Abram, Isaac and Jacob (Mat 22:32..."‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob?’ ......". Jesus made a new covenant with Israel at the Last Supper. (Mat 26:28-29).

Yes Israel,,,not the Church!!!!!WHY, because the church had not even been started yet. They all were still under the law of Moses. So, there was no "new"covenant with the Church. It was with Israel.

Notice that Jesus did not say he was the God of the Church...He is the Church and we believers are with the body of the Church

Yet, Preterist still insist that the Church took Israels place in 70 AD. How can they do this?????. by not being able to separate Mat 24 and Luke 21 fro one another. One states "Then shall they deliver " (then=after cosmic* signs) and the other "But before all these**". Oh and in Matthew, Jesus was talking to four disciples (James, Peter, Andrew and John,,,Mark 13:3) and in Luke he is talking to people in the Temple.

*Cosmic signs: Nations rising up against nations, and kingdoms against kingdoms, Earthquakes, Famines, Pestilence, False prophets, Apostasy, Persecution of the followers of Jesus,The spread of Jesus' message (the gospel) around the world.

**Luke 21:12...." But before all these,..."

***Matthew 24:9..."Then shall they deliver " Verse 8.."All these (verses (6,7) before this one) are the beginning of sorrows." [Parenthesis Added]


Please wake up before it is too late. Billions will die once it starts and I would prefer you and other preterist not be on that list.

Do hope you have a blessed day.
Blade

 

[VCO]

There will not be many....THose who survive the Great Tribulation of Daniel's 70th week will be in the millennium. There will be nations, but everyone within will have their own land...(same model of Israel in the Torah)

I do not think there will be any government except the KING'S.


Zechariah 14:9 (HCSB)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] On that day Yahweh will become King over all the earth—Yahweh alone, and His name alone.

 

[VCO]

The temple is right around the corner.
Get ready y'all! The Lord is gonna return real quick!

The iranian president said Israel won't exist in a 100 years; lemme make my own prediction, Iran won't exist in a 100 years.
And lemme assure you, Israel is here to stay, and Israel aint going away without a fight and for the nations who are against it, theres gonna be hell to pay, read Zechariah 14 it aint looking too good for them nations who attack Israel.

trofimus whats wrong with you dude, you are saying that this thread is anti-christian? nobody is worshiping Israel, but ya gotta realize that GOD AINT DONE with Israel, and you best get used to it because the Lord will be ruling the world FROM Israel, Jerusalem.

He will figure it out when he has to go to Jerusalem every year to Celebrate the Festival of BOOTHS (Tabernacles).

Since he will not be making reservations, he will have to settle for setting up his tabernacle in an alley.

Zechariah 14:16-17 (HCSB)
[SUP]16 [/SUP] Then all the survivors from the nations that came against Jerusalem will go up year after year to worship the King, the LORD of Hosts, and to celebrate the Festival of Booths.
[SUP]17 [/SUP] Should any of the families of the earth not go up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of Hosts, rain will not fall on them.

 

[VCO]

Interesting find in the City of David, short video.

[video=youtube;hk0njpxXJI8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk0njpxXJI8[/video]

 

[VCO]

it could be WW4 for all we know. But yes, it is future, And many will die, Scripture said 1/3 will die in one event, And it will be so bad, the kings of the earth will beg God to make the rocks fall on them so they can die,

YES, when the world's Armies gather to attack at Jerusalem, to try to STOP CHRIST FROM TAKING BACK THE WORLD, that Certainly could be called WWIIII. World War III is early in the the Tribulation seven Year Period, when the Rider of the RED HORSE is sent to take PEACE away from the World.

 

[VCO]

This doesn't really have anything to do with the THIRD TEMPLE, but it certainly has to do with the Book of Revelation.

Look at the little statue that a scuba diver found on a First Century shipwreck in the Eastern Mediterranian:

THIS is the Babyloninan Goddess Ashtoreth.

I have heard that the Artist who made the Statue of Liberty got the idea from a replica of one of those little statues, that he bought in the mideast. Those were a popular statue sold in the market places of John's day. NOW, if John was given an aerial view VISION of New York City being destroyed by NUKES, what would John call that CITY:


Revelation 18:9-19 (HCSB)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] The kings of the earth who have committed sexual immorality and lived luxuriously with her will weep and mourn over her when they see the smoke of her burning.
[SUP]10 [/SUP] They will stand far off in fear of her torment, saying: Woe, woe, the great city, Babylon, the mighty city! For in a single hour your judgment has come.
[SUP]11 [/SUP] The merchants of the earth will also weep and mourn over her, because no one buys their merchandise any longer—
[SUP]12 [/SUP] merchandise of gold, silver, precious stones, and pearls; fine fabrics of linen, purple, silk, and scarlet; all kinds of fragrant wood products; objects of ivory; objects of expensive wood, brass, iron, and marble;
[SUP]13 [/SUP] cinnamon, spice, incense, myrrh, and frankincense; wine, olive oil, fine wheat flour, and grain; cattle and sheep; horses and carriages; and slaves and human lives.
[SUP]14 [/SUP] The fruit you craved has left you. All your splendid and glamorous things are gone; they will never find them again.
[SUP]15 [/SUP] The merchants of these things, who became rich from her, will stand far off in fear of her torment, weeping and mourning,
[SUP]16 [/SUP] saying: Woe, woe, the great city, dressed in fine linen, purple, and scarlet, adorned with gold, precious stones, and pearls,
[SUP]17 [/SUP] for in a single hour such fabulous wealth was destroyed! And every shipmaster, seafarer, the sailors, and all who do business by sea, stood far off
[SUP]18 [/SUP] as they watched the smoke from her burning and kept crying out: “Who is like the great city?”
[SUP]19 [/SUP] They threw dust on their heads and kept crying out, weeping, and mourning:
Woe, woe, the great city, where all those who have ships on the seabecame
rich from her wealth, for in a single hour she was destroyed.

 

[Bookends]

I can......How about Jesus as an author...Is that good enough??? I know, He was in the 1st century which is outside of your boundaries. It does show the idea of separation of the Church and Israel was from the beginning. If you cannot take this author's word to heart and believe it, then you got bigger problems than trying to find 2nd and 3rd century authors to dispute or confirm what Jesus said:

God made a covenant with Abram, Isaac and Jacob (Mat 22:32..."‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob?’ ......". Jesus made a new covenant with Israel at the Last Supper. (Mat 26:28-29).

Yes Israel,,,not the Church!!!!!WHY, because the church had not even been started yet. They all were still under the law of Moses. So, there was no "new"covenant with the Church. It was with Israel.

Notice that Jesus did not say he was the God of the Church...He is the Church and we believers are with the body of the Church

Yet, Preterist still insist that the Church took Israels place in 70 AD. How can they do this?????. by not being able to separate Mat 24 and Luke 21 fro one another. One states "Then shall they deliver " (then=after cosmic* signs) and the other "But before all these**". Oh and in Matthew, Jesus was talking to four disciples (James, Peter, Andrew and John,,,Mark 13:3) and in Luke he is talking to people in the Temple.

*Cosmic signs: Nations rising up against nations, and kingdoms against kingdoms, Earthquakes, Famines, Pestilence, False prophets, Apostasy, Persecution of the followers of Jesus,The spread of Jesus' message (the gospel) around the world.

**Luke 21:12...." But before all these,..."

***Matthew 24:9..."Then shall they deliver " Verse 8.."All these (verses (6,7) before this one) are the beginning of sorrows." [Parenthesis Added]


Please wake up before it is too late. Billions will die once it starts and I would prefer you and other preterist not be on that list.

Do hope you have a blessed day.
Blade

This was my reaction after reading your comment. Jesus confirmed the new covenant at the last supper to all Jews, correct. Peter was there, Jesus told Peter that Peter what?

Matthew 16:18:

And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the forces of Hades will not overpower it.

Common response from a well versed and trained dispensationalist by stating I believe the church replaces Israel, however, the bible clearly teaches that the Church is a continuation of Israel founded upon Christ and the 12 disciples, and the prophets that foretold of the things to come. Paul gives a picture of this use the cultivated olive tree of Romans 11. Paul explains in Ephesians how once the gentiles were far off from the commonwealth of Israel, but now are brought near. The separating veil was torn in two.

I might remind you also, when Jesus was talking to the Jews that would not accept Him, he stated He could raise up children of Abraham from stones. Meaning that being direct blood related descendants has nothing to do with it, He'll make anyone a child of Abraham by their faith in Him. Amazing, Abraham was looking forward to a heavenly Jerusalem not made with human hands and you (dispensationalist) are looking for an earthly one.

I'm actually shocked at how far are you have taken it.

Psa_86:9 All the nations you have made shall come and worship before you, O Lord, and shall glorify your name. (I wonder how the Jews in David's time took this, for they reviled the gentiles).

Berean Literal Bible
And I have other sheep which are not of this fold. It behooves Me to bring those also, and they will hear My voice, and there will be one flock with one shepherd.

 

[VCO]

A thread about worshipping Israel.

A very antichristian thread.

NO, being disobedient to GOD's WORD is being antichristian like you appear to be doing:


Genesis 12:1-3 (HCSB)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] The LORD said to Abram: Go out from your land, your relatives, and your father’s house to the land that I will show you.
[SUP]2 [/SUP] I will make you into a great nation, I will bless you, I will make your name great, and you will be a blessing.
[SUP]3 [/SUP] I will bless those who bless you, I will curse those who treat you with contempt, and all the peoples on earth will be blessed through you.

Psalm 122:6 (ASV)
[SUP]6 [/SUP] Pray for the peace of Jerusalem: They shall prosper that love thee.


Zechariah 8:2-3 (NCV)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] This is what the LORD All-Powerful says: “I have a very strong love for Jerusalem. My strong love for her is like a fire burning in me.“
[SUP]3 [/SUP] This is what the LORD says: “I will return to Jerusalem and live in it. Then it will be called the City of Truth, and the mountain of the LORD All-Powerful will be called the Holy Mountain.“



[video=youtube;mhB-0Ro6Uqc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhB-0Ro6Uqc[/video]

 

[VCO]

This was my reaction after reading your comment. Jesus confirmed the new covenant at the last supper to all Jews, correct. Peter was there, Jesus told Peter that Peter what?

Matthew 16:18:

And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the forces of Hades will not overpower it.

Common response from a well versed and trained dispensationalist by stating I believe the church replaces Israel, however, the bible clearly teaches that the Church is a continuation of Israel founded upon Christ and the 12 disciples, and the prophets that foretold of the things to come. Paul gives a picture of this use the cultivated olive tree of Romans 11. Paul explains in Ephesians how once the gentiles were far off from the commonwealth of Israel, but now are brought near. The separating veil was torn in two.

I might remind you also, when Jesus was talking to the Jews that would not accept Him, he stated He could raise up children of Abraham from stones. Meaning that being direct blood related descendants has nothing to do with it, He'll make anyone a child of Abraham by their faith in Him. Amazing, Abraham was looking forward to a heavenly Jerusalem not made with human hands and you (dispensationalist) are looking for an earthly one.

I'm actually shocked at how far are you have taken it.

Psa_86:9 All the nations you have made shall come and worship before you, O Lord, and shall glorify your name. (I wonder how the Jews in David's time took this, for they reviled the gentiles).

Berean Literal Bible
And I have other sheep which are not of this fold. It behooves Me to bring those also, and they will hear My voice, and there will be one flock with one shepherd.

Look up the Greek word and it original meaning, and you will find out Jesus never said the word Church. HE SAID ASSEMBLY, the same thing He called O.T. True Believers:

Matthew 16:18 (YLT)
[SUP]18 [/SUP] `And I also say to thee, that thou art a rock, and upon this rock I will build my assembly, and gates of Hades shall not prevail against it;