I have a question about being a Christian and Drinking Alcohol

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Radius

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I have been very stressed lately and broke down and bought a couple (2) 500ml cans of beer. After drinking I felt a lot better. It was sort of medicinal for me. I don't have the desire to drink more than that which equaled out to just under 3 beers.

Now I have 2 questions:

1: Is it ok for me, being a Christian, to have a drink to wind down, reduce stress and ease nerves?

2: is feeling the effects ok? nobody can say they don't feel the effects of drinking beer, even if it is just a slight buzz.

As the Bible says, it does gladden the heart and made me feel, I don't know, happier.

I am living in a different country now, have a high stress job, and it wouldn't be an every day thing. Just wondering your take on this.

Thanks!
 

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If your conscious tells you it's wrong, you should not drink at all, whatever is not of faith is sin.

I personally believe drink is not good, so I would never drink, just like I would never do a lot of things that I consider wrong, that is my conscious.

Same can be said about anyone, and the bible has standards of right and wrong we all should follow.
 
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NoNameMcgee

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1 Peter 5:8

8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour


my take on this is you should never get buzzed on any level if you can avoid it

but maybe pray on it man

ask God to show you his will on this
 

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1 Peter 5:8

8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour


my take on this is you should never get buzzed on any level if you can avoid it

but maybe pray on it man

ask God to show you his will on this
Why this verse in the Bible then?
“Give strong drink to the one who is perishing, and wine to those in bitter distress; let them drink and forget their poverty and remember their misery no more” (Prov. 31:6-7)

and

Psalms 104:15

He causes the grass to grow for the cattle, And vegetation for the labor of man, So that he may bring forth food from the earth, 15And wine which makes man's heart glad, So that he may make his face glisten with oil, And food which sustains man's heart.
 

Radius

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I guess what i am trying to say is if the Bible does not condemn moderate use of alcohol, why is it considered wrong? drinking 2-3 beers (at most) would be moderate. If people don't drink it as a way to unwind, why do they drink it? My intentions are not to abuse it or get drunk.
 

Magenta

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Hello Radius :) You say you broke down and bought a couple of cans of beer. Is beer something that has been a problem for you in the past? You seem concerned that it may be a problem, while at the same time downplaying a little the fact that you got off on it. While Scripture does advocate for sobriety and a sober life style, drinking in itself is not a sin, for it is also recommended for those who are grieving, for instance, to help them forget their sorrows, but I don't believe it is meant to be used regularly.

If you have a history of alcohol or drug abuse, drinking now could spiral out of control and cause many problems. Alcoholics call their inability to handle liquor an allergy. If you find you have to start drinking more to achieve the same sense of relaxation, there may be a problem. Other things to watch for:

You’ve lost control over your drinking. You often drink more alcohol than you wanted to, for longer than you intended, or despite telling yourself you wouldn’t.

You want to quit drinking, but you can’t.
You have a persistent desire to cut down or stop your alcohol use, but your efforts to quit have been unsuccessful.

You have given up other activities because of alcohol.
You’re spending less time on activities that used to be important to you (hanging out with family and friends, going to the gym, pursuing your hobbies) because of your alcohol use.

Alcohol takes up a great deal of your energy and focus.
You spend a lot of time drinking, thinking about it, or recovering from its effects. You have few if any interests or social involvements that don’t revolve around drinking.

You drink even though you know it’s causing problems.
For example, you recognize that your alcohol use is damaging your marriage, making your depression worse, or causing health problems, but you continue to drink anyway.
https://www.helpguide.org/articles/addictions/alcoholism-and-alcohol-abuse.htm

Here are some Scriptural cautions against drinking:

75 WARNINGS
There is more Scripture condemning the use of alcoholic beverages than will be found on the subjects of lying, adultery, swearing, cheating, hypocrisy, pride, or even blasphemy.

1) Genesis 9:20-26 - Noah became drunk; the result was immorality and family trouble.

2) Genesis 19:30-38 - Lot was so drunk he did not know what he was doing; this led to immorality

3) Leviticus 10:9-11 - God commanded priests not to drink so that they could tell the difference between the holy and the unholy.

4) Numbers 6:3 - The Nazarites were told to eat or drink nothing from the grape vine.

5) Deuteronomy 21:20 - A drunken son was stubborn and rebellious.

6) Deuteronomy 29:5-6 - God gave no grape juice to Israel nor did they have intoxicating drink in the wilderness.

7) Deuteronomy 32:33 - Intoxicating wine is like the poison of serpents, the cruel venom of asps.

8) Judges 13:4, 7, 14 - Samson was to be a Nazarite for life. His mother was told not to drink wine or strong drink.

9) 1 Samuel 1:14-15 - Accused, Hannah said she drank no wine.

10) 1 Samuel 25:32-38 - Nabal died after a drunken spree.

11) 2 Samuel 11:13 - By getting Uriah drunk, David hoped to cover his sin.

12) 2 Samuel 13:28-29 - Amnon was drunk when he was killed.

13) 1 Kings 16:8-10 - The king was drinking himself into drunkenness when he was assassinated

14) 1 Kings 20:12-21 - Ben-Hadad and 32 other kings were drinking when they were attacked and defeated by the
Israelites.

15) Esther 1:5-12 - The king gave each one all the drink he wanted. The king was intoxicated when he commanded the queen to come.

16) Psalm 75:8 - The Lord’s anger is pictured as mixed wine poured out and drunk by the wicked.

17) Proverbs 4:17 - Alcoholic drink is called the wine of violence.

18) Proverbs 20:1 - Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging.

19) Proverbs 23:19-20 - A wise person will not be among the drinkers of alcoholic beverages.

20) Proverbs 23:21 - Drunkenness causes poverty.

21) Proverbs 23:29-30 - Drinking causes woe, sorrow, fighting, babbling, wounds without cause and red eyes.

22) Proverbs 23:31 - God instructs not to look at intoxicating drinks.

23) Proverbs 23:32 - Alcoholic drinks bite like a serpent, sting like an adder.

24) Proverbs 23:33 - Alcohol causes the drinker to have strange and adulterous thoughts, produces willfulness, and prevents reformation.

25) Proverbs 23:34 - Alcohol makes the drinker unstable

26) Proverbs 23:35 - Alcohol makes the drinker insensitive to pain so he does not perceive it as a warning. Alcohol is habit forming.

27) Proverb 31:4-5 - Kings, Princes, and others who rule and judge must not drink alcohol. Alcohol perverts good judgment.

28) Proverbs 31:6-7 - Strong drink could be given to those about to perish or those in pain. Better anesthetics are available today.

29) Ecclesiastes 2:3 - The king tried everything, including intoxicating drink, to see if it satisfied. It did not. (Ecclesiastes 12:8)

30) Ecclesiastes 10:17 - A land is blessed when its leaders do not drink.

31) Isaiah 5:11-12 - Woe to those who get up early to drink and stay up late at night to get drunk.

32) Isaiah 5:22 - Woe to "champion" drinkers and "experts" at mixing drinks.

33) Isaiah 19:14 - Drunken men stagger in their vomit.

34) Isaiah 22:12-13 - The Israelites choose to drink; their future looks hopeless to them.

35) Isaiah 24:9 - Drinkers cannot escape the consequences when God judges.

36) Isaiah 28:1 - God pronounces woe on the drunkards of Ephraim.

37) Isaiah 28:3 - Proud drunkards shall be trodden down.

38) Isaiah 28:7 - Priests and prophets stagger and reel from beer and wine, err in vision, and stumble in judgment.

39) Isaiah 28:8 - Drinkers’ tables are covered with vomit and filth.

40) Isaiah 56:9-12 - Drinkers seek their own gain and expect tomorrow to be just like today.

41) Jeremiah 35:2-14 - The Rechabites drank no grape juice or intoxicating wine and were blessed.

42) Ezekiel 44:21 - Again God instructed the priests not to drink wine.

43) Daniel 1:5-17 - Daniel refused the king’s intoxicating wine and was blessed for it along with his abstaining friends.

44) Daniel 5:1 - Belshazzar, ruler of Babylon; led his people in drinking.

45) Daniel 5:2-3 - The king, along with his nobles, wives, and concubines, drank from the goblets which had been taken from God’s temple.

46) Daniel 5:4 - Drinking wine was combined with praising false gods.

47) Daniel 5:23 - God sent word to Belshazzar that punishment would be swift for the evil he had committed.

48) Hosea 4:11 - Intoxicating wine takes away intelligence.

49) Hosea 7:5 - God reproves princes for drinking.

50) Joel 1:5 - Drunkards awake to see God’s judgment.

51) Joel 3:3 - The enemy is judged for selling girls for wine.

52) Amos 2:8 - Unrighteous acts of Israel included the drinking of wine which had been taken for the payment of fines.

53) Amos 2:12 - Israel is condemned for forcing Nazarites to drink wine.

54) Micah 2:11 - Israelites are eager to follow false teachers who prophesy plenty of intoxicating drinks.

55) Nahum 1:10 - The drunkards of Nineveh will be destroyed by God.

56) Habakkuk 2:5 - A man is betrayed by wine.

57) Habakkuk 2:15 - Woe to him that gives his neighbor drink.

58) Habakkuk 2:16 - Drinking leads to shame.

59) Matthew 24:48-51 - A drinking servant is unprepared for his Lord’s return.

60) Luke 1:15 - John the Baptist drank neither grape juice nor wine.

61) Luke 12:45 - Christ warned against drunkenness.

62) Luke 21:34 - Drunkenness will cause a person not to be ready for the Lord’s return.

63) Romans 13:13 - Do not walk in drunkenness or immorality.

64) Romans 14:21 - Do not do anything that will hurt your testimony as a believer.

65) 1 Corinthians 5:11 - If a Christian brother is a drinker, do not associate with him.

66) 1 Corinthians 6:10 - Drunkards will not inherit the kingdom of God

67) Galatians 5:21 - Acts of the sinful nature, such as drunkenness, will prohibit a person from inheriting the kingdom of God.

68) Ephesians 5:18 - In contrast to being drunk with wine, the believer is to be filled with the Spirit.

69) 1 Thessalonians 5:6-7 - Christians are to be alert and self-controlled, belonging to the day. Drunkards belong to the night and darkness.

70) 1 Timothy 3:2-3 - Bishops (elders) are to be temperate, sober, and not near any wine.

71) 1 Timothy 3:8 - Deacons are to be worthy of respect and not drinkers.

72) 1 Timothy 3:11 - Deacons’ wives are to be temperate and sober.

73) Titus 1:7-8 - An overseer is to be disciplined.

74) Titus 2:2-3 - The older men and older women of the church are to be temperate and not addicted to wine.

75) 1 Peter 4:3-4 - The past life of drunkenness and carousing has no place in the Christian’s life.
75 Bible References on Drinking Alcohol
 

shrume

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I guess what i am trying to say is if the Bible does not condemn moderate use of alcohol, why is it considered wrong?
It's not.

drinking 2-3 beers (at most) would be moderate. If people don't drink it as a way to unwind, why do they drink it? My intentions are not to abuse it or get drunk.
You're ok.

Just watch yourself (you seem like the type who will.. I know, snap judgment on my part. :) ) and don't cause another to stumble.

Edit: Magenta's point is valid:
If you have a history of alcohol or drug abuse, drinking now could spiral out of control and cause many problems.
If alcohol has been a problem in the past, don't drink.
 
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still conformed to the worlds way of unwinding? everyone can write anything off as no big deal.... this is a relationship we are in.. why are you asking everyone but the one with whom you are in one with?

I can't ask you if its ok to not call my boyfriend back if im out somewhere and not busy.. for him if im not busy it shouldn't be an inconvenience to call back.. i can say also that I don't see what the big deal is... but if i want to be with him then his thoughts should matter

just giving my 2 since you openly asked
 

Radius

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Hello Radius :) You say you broke down and bought a couple of cans of beer. Is beer something that has been a problem for you in the past? You seem concerned that it may be a problem, while at the same time downplaying a little the fact that you got off on it. While Scripture does advocate for sobriety and a sober life style, drinking in itself is not a sin, for it is also recommended for those who are grieving, for instance, to help them forget their sorrows, but I don't believe it is meant to be used regularly.

If you have a history of alcohol or drug abuse, drinking now could spiral out of control and cause many problems. Alcoholics call their inability to handle liquor an allergy. If you find you have to start drinking more to achieve the same sense of relaxation, there may be a problem. Other things to watch for:

You’ve lost control over your drinking. You often drink more alcohol than you wanted to, for longer than you intended, or despite telling yourself you wouldn’t.

You want to quit drinking, but you can’t.
You have a persistent desire to cut down or stop your alcohol use, but your efforts to quit have been unsuccessful.

You have given up other activities because of alcohol.
You’re spending less time on activities that used to be important to you (hanging out with family and friends, going to the gym, pursuing your hobbies) because of your alcohol use.

Alcohol takes up a great deal of your energy and focus.
You spend a lot of time drinking, thinking about it, or recovering from its effects. You have few if any interests or social involvements that don’t revolve around drinking.

You drink even though you know it’s causing problems.
For example, you recognize that your alcohol use is damaging your marriage, making your depression worse, or causing health problems, but you continue to drink anyway.
https://www.helpguide.org/articles/addictions/alcoholism-and-alcohol-abuse.htm

Here are some Scriptural cautions against drinking:

75 WARNINGS
There is more Scripture condemning the use of alcoholic beverages than will be found on the subjects of lying, adultery, swearing, cheating, hypocrisy, pride, or even blasphemy.

1) Genesis 9:20-26 - Noah became drunk; the result was immorality and family trouble.

2) Genesis 19:30-38 - Lot was so drunk he did not know what he was doing; this led to immorality

3) Leviticus 10:9-11 - God commanded priests not to drink so that they could tell the difference between the holy and the unholy.

4) Numbers 6:3 - The Nazarites were told to eat or drink nothing from the grape vine.

5) Deuteronomy 21:20 - A drunken son was stubborn and rebellious.

6) Deuteronomy 29:5-6 - God gave no grape juice to Israel nor did they have intoxicating drink in the wilderness.

7) Deuteronomy 32:33 - Intoxicating wine is like the poison of serpents, the cruel venom of asps.

8) Judges 13:4, 7, 14 - Samson was to be a Nazarite for life. His mother was told not to drink wine or strong drink.

9) 1 Samuel 1:14-15 - Accused, Hannah said she drank no wine.

10) 1 Samuel 25:32-38 - Nabal died after a drunken spree.

11) 2 Samuel 11:13 - By getting Uriah drunk, David hoped to cover his sin.

12) 2 Samuel 13:28-29 - Amnon was drunk when he was killed.

13) 1 Kings 16:8-10 - The king was drinking himself into drunkenness when he was assassinated

14) 1 Kings 20:12-21 - Ben-Hadad and 32 other kings were drinking when they were attacked and defeated by the
Israelites.

15) Esther 1:5-12 - The king gave each one all the drink he wanted. The king was intoxicated when he commanded the queen to come.

16) Psalm 75:8 - The Lord’s anger is pictured as mixed wine poured out and drunk by the wicked.

17) Proverbs 4:17 - Alcoholic drink is called the wine of violence.

18) Proverbs 20:1 - Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging.

19) Proverbs 23:19-20 - A wise person will not be among the drinkers of alcoholic beverages.

20) Proverbs 23:21 - Drunkenness causes poverty.

21) Proverbs 23:29-30 - Drinking causes woe, sorrow, fighting, babbling, wounds without cause and red eyes.

22) Proverbs 23:31 - God instructs not to look at intoxicating drinks.

23) Proverbs 23:32 - Alcoholic drinks bite like a serpent, sting like an adder.

24) Proverbs 23:33 - Alcohol causes the drinker to have strange and adulterous thoughts, produces willfulness, and prevents reformation.

25) Proverbs 23:34 - Alcohol makes the drinker unstable

26) Proverbs 23:35 - Alcohol makes the drinker insensitive to pain so he does not perceive it as a warning. Alcohol is habit forming.

27) Proverb 31:4-5 - Kings, Princes, and others who rule and judge must not drink alcohol. Alcohol perverts good judgment.

28) Proverbs 31:6-7 - Strong drink could be given to those about to perish or those in pain. Better anesthetics are available today.

29) Ecclesiastes 2:3 - The king tried everything, including intoxicating drink, to see if it satisfied. It did not. (Ecclesiastes 12:8)

30) Ecclesiastes 10:17 - A land is blessed when its leaders do not drink.

31) Isaiah 5:11-12 - Woe to those who get up early to drink and stay up late at night to get drunk.

32) Isaiah 5:22 - Woe to "champion" drinkers and "experts" at mixing drinks.

33) Isaiah 19:14 - Drunken men stagger in their vomit.

34) Isaiah 22:12-13 - The Israelites choose to drink; their future looks hopeless to them.

35) Isaiah 24:9 - Drinkers cannot escape the consequences when God judges.

36) Isaiah 28:1 - God pronounces woe on the drunkards of Ephraim.

37) Isaiah 28:3 - Proud drunkards shall be trodden down.

38) Isaiah 28:7 - Priests and prophets stagger and reel from beer and wine, err in vision, and stumble in judgment.

39) Isaiah 28:8 - Drinkers’ tables are covered with vomit and filth.

40) Isaiah 56:9-12 - Drinkers seek their own gain and expect tomorrow to be just like today.

41) Jeremiah 35:2-14 - The Rechabites drank no grape juice or intoxicating wine and were blessed.

42) Ezekiel 44:21 - Again God instructed the priests not to drink wine.

43) Daniel 1:5-17 - Daniel refused the king’s intoxicating wine and was blessed for it along with his abstaining friends.

44) Daniel 5:1 - Belshazzar, ruler of Babylon; led his people in drinking.

45) Daniel 5:2-3 - The king, along with his nobles, wives, and concubines, drank from the goblets which had been taken from God’s temple.

46) Daniel 5:4 - Drinking wine was combined with praising false gods.

47) Daniel 5:23 - God sent word to Belshazzar that punishment would be swift for the evil he had committed.

48) Hosea 4:11 - Intoxicating wine takes away intelligence.

49) Hosea 7:5 - God reproves princes for drinking.

50) Joel 1:5 - Drunkards awake to see God’s judgment.

51) Joel 3:3 - The enemy is judged for selling girls for wine.

52) Amos 2:8 - Unrighteous acts of Israel included the drinking of wine which had been taken for the payment of fines.

53) Amos 2:12 - Israel is condemned for forcing Nazarites to drink wine.

54) Micah 2:11 - Israelites are eager to follow false teachers who prophesy plenty of intoxicating drinks.

55) Nahum 1:10 - The drunkards of Nineveh will be destroyed by God.

56) Habakkuk 2:5 - A man is betrayed by wine.

57) Habakkuk 2:15 - Woe to him that gives his neighbor drink.

58) Habakkuk 2:16 - Drinking leads to shame.

59) Matthew 24:48-51 - A drinking servant is unprepared for his Lord’s return.

60) Luke 1:15 - John the Baptist drank neither grape juice nor wine.

61) Luke 12:45 - Christ warned against drunkenness.

62) Luke 21:34 - Drunkenness will cause a person not to be ready for the Lord’s return.

63) Romans 13:13 - Do not walk in drunkenness or immorality.

64) Romans 14:21 - Do not do anything that will hurt your testimony as a believer.

65) 1 Corinthians 5:11 - If a Christian brother is a drinker, do not associate with him.

66) 1 Corinthians 6:10 - Drunkards will not inherit the kingdom of God

67) Galatians 5:21 - Acts of the sinful nature, such as drunkenness, will prohibit a person from inheriting the kingdom of God.

68) Ephesians 5:18 - In contrast to being drunk with wine, the believer is to be filled with the Spirit.

69) 1 Thessalonians 5:6-7 - Christians are to be alert and self-controlled, belonging to the day. Drunkards belong to the night and darkness.

70) 1 Timothy 3:2-3 - Bishops (elders) are to be temperate, sober, and not near any wine.

71) 1 Timothy 3:8 - Deacons are to be worthy of respect and not drinkers.

72) 1 Timothy 3:11 - Deacons’ wives are to be temperate and sober.

73) Titus 1:7-8 - An overseer is to be disciplined.

74) Titus 2:2-3 - The older men and older women of the church are to be temperate and not addicted to wine.

75) 1 Peter 4:3-4 - The past life of drunkenness and carousing has no place in the Christian’s life.
75 Bible References on Drinking Alcohol
I will be honest and tell you I did have a problem with alcohol before. I abstained for 2.5 years. I knew deep down back then that i couldn't control it. I hid it from my wife and was a day drinker. Bad problem.

Now, deep down, those feelings of not being able to control it are gone (i know, many alcoholics have said this, haha) and my wife knows I had a drink. She is ok with me drinking just a bit, but no hard stuff, which I agree with.

On the surface, straight away, I bet you are thinking "don't touch it." But I feel my mindset has changed. I really don't have a desire to be drunk whereas before I did. I don't even want to use it everyday. Just now and again to unwind. I am wondering if this intended way of using alcohol is wrong.

God knows my motives, and he knows I don't want to get sloshed on alcohol.
 
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NoNameMcgee

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Why this verse in the Bible then?
“Give strong drink to the one who is perishing, and wine to those in bitter distress; let them drink and forget their poverty and remember their misery no more” (Prov. 31:6-7)

and

Psalms 104:15

He causes the grass to grow for the cattle, And vegetation for the labor of man, So that he may bring forth food from the earth, 15And wine which makes man's heart glad, So that he may make his face glisten with oil, And food which sustains man's heart.
since you asked

how i see the first verse is... those who are perishing dont have eternal life

John 3:15
15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.


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and if you need to drink to get rid of your misery instead of rely on Christ youre free to do so

Romans 15:13 - Now the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, that ye may abound in hope, through the power of the Holy Ghost.

--------------------------------------------------------

as for the heart.....

Jeremiah 17:9

9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
 
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I will be honest and tell you I did have a problem with alcohol before. I abstained for 2.5 years. I knew deep down back then that i couldn't control it. I hid it from my wife and was a day drinker. Bad problem.

Now, deep down, those feelings of not being able to control it are gone (i know, many alcoholics have said this, haha) and my wife knows I had a drink. She is ok with me drinking just a bit, but no hard stuff, which I agree with.

On the surface, straight away, I bet you are thinking "don't touch it." But I feel my mindset has changed. I really don't have a desire to be drunk whereas before I did. I don't even want to use it everyday. Just now and again to unwind. I am wondering if this intended way of using alcohol is wrong.

God knows my motives, and he knows I don't want to get sloshed on alcohol.
Your decision is between you and God. But if you've had problems in the past, you're playing with fire.

Been there, done that, know all the excuses.
 

Radius

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Your decision is between you and God. But if you've had problems in the past, you're playing with fire.

Been there, done that, know all the excuses.
Yeah maybe its best to just stay away. i prayed for stress relief, it just never came and my chest was tightening from it. Alcohol was a physical instant quick fix. It worked. But I felt cheap doing it.
 

Radius

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since you asked

how i see the first verse is... those who are perishing dont have eternal life

John 3:15
15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.


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and if you need to drink to get rid of your misery instead of rely on Christ youre free to do so

Romans 15:13 - Now the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, that ye may abound in hope, through the power of the Holy Ghost.

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as for the heart.....

Jeremiah 17:9

9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
I dont interpret it that way, I believe it for those who are close to dying like Christ who was offered a concoction on the Cross.
 

shrume

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since you asked

how i see the first verse is... those who are perishing dont have eternal life

John 3:15
15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
So we're to pass out booze to all the unbelievers? :). What kind of witness is that?

I'm pretty sure it's talking about someone who is dying, in pain or something.
 
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NoNameMcgee

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So we're to pass out booze to all the unbelievers? :). What kind of witness is that?

I'm pretty sure it's talking about someone who is dying, in pain or something.
i wouldnt say hes saying to GIVE it to them in context...


4 It is not for kings, O Lemuel, it is not for kings to drink wine; nor for princes strong drink
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5 Lest they drink, and forget the law, and pervert the judgment of any of the afflicted.

6 Give strong drink unto him that is ready to perish, and wine unto those that be of heavy hearts.

7 Let him drink, and forget his poverty, and remember his misery no more.
 
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Why not find healthier ways to relieve stress, rather than reverting to old, bad habits? If it got out of control once why would you think it won't this time too?
 

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Why not find healthier ways to relieve stress, rather than reverting to old, bad habits? If it got out of control once why would you think it won't this time too?
I hate exercising lol. Really there could be other ways, but the way my chest was tightening I felt I needed something physically to reduce that feeling.
What's the difference between Christians taking zanax and those who drink 2-3 beers? Both drugs work on the same receptors in the brain and both affect mood. If i could take stress relief pills I would. There's so much negative press about alcohol (and for good reasons usually) but Im not trying to drink like that.
 
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How many alcoholics, or former alcoholics, or those fallen off the bandwagon intended to "drink like that".
Quite honestly you are all over the place on this subject. One second you're speaking against it, the next justifying using it. That's a bad sign.
But mostly you seem as though you didmt come here for opinions but rather hoping to hear what you wanted so you wouldn't feel so guilty, which you obviously do. At this rate you'll be drinking every night to relieve stress. In other words relying on alcohol to help you "deal" with stress. Every time you stress. You'll be back to being an alcoholic in no time with your present attitude and intentions.
 

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How many alcoholics, or former alcoholics, or those fallen off the bandwagon intended to "drink like that".
Quite honestly you are all over the place on this subject. One second you're speaking against it, the next justifying using it. That's a bad sign.
But mostly you seem as though you didmt come here for opinions but rather hoping to hear what you wanted so you wouldn't feel so guilty, which you obviously do. At this rate you'll be drinking every night to relieve stress. In other words relying on alcohol to help you "deal" with stress. Every time you stress. You'll be back to being an alcoholic in no time with your present attitude and intentions.
Thanks for knowing me better than I know myself!
 

Fenner

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I don't have advice about the alcohol but one thing that helps me relieve stress is art. I like to paint, I'm not great but it doesn't matter. Lately I've been taking part in this local thing where you paint rocks and hide them for people to find. People post what they find and hide on Facebook. I don't really look for the rocks but painting them and putting them in different spots for people to find is fun. The painting relaxes me and drawing relaxes me. Just a thought.