My closest sister had had a double mastectomy. When the first lump was diagnosed many years ago and pronounced benign and not needing any treatment, my sister sought a second opinion which counselled immediate removal. The first doctor was absolutely furious with her for refusing to accept his advice, and yet HE was scheduled to remove the lump when that operation was being planned. Guess what? My sister is a nurse and she knows doctors well, and has a pretty good grip on the realities of life and human nature as well, and she REFUSED to go under the knife of a MAN who held a searing grudge against her because she did not take HIS advice. Yeah, doctors play God. All of them? No, I did not say that. Some of them most certainly do.
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Nobody would argue that some doctors don't have ego problems. I stay away from those that do myself. But this problem isn't isolated to only one profession. Good doctors ... bad doctors. Good mechanics .. bad mechanics. Good lawyers ... bad lawyers. I wouldn't expect anything but this given the human condition.
No one truly knows what will happen until they truly experience it. I was firmly on the side that transfusions were okay. I then found out that I needed a bunch and had to think about what I already thought was settled. I struggled with knowing if it was alright for a transfusion, but felt like God was leading me to it. God guided me through the whole thing, there were time in the transfusion and transplant, which was done just like a transfusion, that the doctor's could even tell God was in control. I heard about different things being miracles, one doctor even asked for us to pray for the other patients. The decision is between God and the person who needs the transfusion. God uses us to spread the word about Him, and we do not save others, Christ does that. Similarly, I believe God can use doctors. God is still in control, but doctors can help heal the body.
You overlook the fact that doctors are in the profession of attempting to sustain and prolong our lives hopefully through educating us to making better choices more aligned with how our bodies operate in the first place, so comparing them to auto mechanics may have relevance in terms of how a mechanic is attempting to help you prolong the usefulness of your car, but your car is not your LIFE. Stop waffling. The point was relevant in the first place, despite your denial.
Since we walk by the faith of Christ which comes from hearing God in the scriutres the focus is never on that seen Blood. But ratheron that not seen the Spirit essence of life. We all come from two parents.Adam and Eve If three or three hundred different genes are used it does not take away from the fact if God does not breath in the breath of spirit life . there would be no child.
If the focus was on that seen. There will be no graves,. Simply take two pints and call in the morning
The verse that inform us as a parable rightly dividing between that seen (blood ) the temporal the unseen spiritual eternal Understanding that “without the shedding of blood a person has no remission. The focus is not on literal blood but is on the pouring out of His Spirit the unseen Its what that which is seen reveals as a metaphor for spirit .Again shed blood show Spirit life was give. Water is used in the same way
And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission. It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these. For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us: Heb 9:22
If the focus was on that seen. There will be no graves,. Simply take two pints and call in the morning
The verse that inform us as a parable rightly dividing between that seen (blood ) the temporal the unseen spiritual eternal Understanding that “without the shedding of blood a person has no remission. The focus is not on literal blood but is on the pouring out of His Spirit the unseen Its what that which is seen reveals as a metaphor for spirit .Again shed blood show Spirit life was give. Water is used in the same way
And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission. It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these. For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us: Heb 9:22
Which of the following things being pushed by scientists are from God, or the will of God?
- 3 or more parents donating cells to create children in test tubes
- Blending animal and human DNA
- Mixing seeds to bring forth things not after their own kind
- Colonizing space
- Bio/chemical weapons
- Anti-gravity
- Weakening faith in God by influencing the brain
- Transhumanism / putting person's consciousness or soul inside a machine
- Modifying weather through cloud seeding
- Replacing people's blood to extend their life artificially
- Selectively editing genes of unborn children to give them designer traits
- Receiving electronic implants to make things like turning on lights much easier
Can you highlight all the ones that are good and from God, in green?
- 3 or more parents donating cells to create children in test tubes
- Blending animal and human DNA
- Mixing seeds to bring forth things not after their own kind
- Colonizing space
- Bio/chemical weapons
- Anti-gravity
- Weakening faith in God by influencing the brain
- Transhumanism / putting person's consciousness or soul inside a machine
- Modifying weather through cloud seeding
- Replacing people's blood to extend their life artificially
- Selectively editing genes of unborn children to give them designer traits
- Receiving electronic implants to make things like turning on lights much easier
Can you highlight all the ones that are good and from God, in green?
Acts 15:20
But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.
Acts 15:29
That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.
Acts 21:25
As touching the Gentiles which believe, we have written and concluded that they observe no such thing, save only that they keep themselves from things offered to idols, and from blood, and from strangled, and from fornication.
"Mr Hornet, the doctor will see you now. It's a painless procedure. He's going to jam this metal rod through your eye socket in to your skull and scramble your brain like an egg. It will make you much happier. Cheer up."
"Great, doctors are awesome."
But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.
Acts 15:29
That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.
Acts 21:25
As touching the Gentiles which believe, we have written and concluded that they observe no such thing, save only that they keep themselves from things offered to idols, and from blood, and from strangled, and from fornication.
"Mr Hornet, the doctor will see you now. It's a painless procedure. He's going to jam this metal rod through your eye socket in to your skull and scramble your brain like an egg. It will make you much happier. Cheer up."
"Great, doctors are awesome."
Doctors initially SCOFFED at and rejected the idea of needing to wash their hands between patients to prevent the transfer of one microbial organism from one patient to another. Those who promoted and professed to the necessity of doing such were basically LAUGHED out of their professional standing within the cliquey community known as the health care profession. My how things change.
Let us not forget also that they used to "bleed" people, being under the mistaken assumption that the procedure would help cure the person suffering.
Death of a President: A 200-Year-Old Malpractice Debate
Death of a President: A 200-Year-Old Malpractice Debate - The New York Times
More than two hundred years ago, on Dec. 14, 1799, the first president of the United States died at the age of 67 in his bed at Mount Vernon. George Washington's doctors said the cause was ''inflammatory quinsy,'' a severe infection of the throat, but to this day controversy has surrounded his death.
That debate -- did Washington die because of medical malpractice? -- is vividly evoked, though not resolved, in an article in the current issue (1999) of The New England Journal of Medicine. The author, Dr. David Morens, an epidemiologist with the National Institutes of Health in Maryland, pulls together details about Washington's treatment from dozens of published medical and historical sources over nearly two centuries.
''What I've tried to do is describe the medical events and also set Washington's final days in a social and cultural context,'' Dr. Morens, 51, said in an interview. ''My study shows that accusations of malpractice were very much in the air during and immediately after the great man died.''
Dr. Morens writes that when Washington's throat swelled so painfully that he could not swallow, he asked his doctors to bleed him. At the time it was standard medical practice, but the amount of blood removed was staggering -- 80 ounces, or 5 pints, in a single day -- and many people questioned whether he had been bled to death.
Still, bloodletting did not die out as a regular practice until the mid-19th century.
Death of a President: A 200-Year-Old Malpractice Debate
Death of a President: A 200-Year-Old Malpractice Debate - The New York Times
More than two hundred years ago, on Dec. 14, 1799, the first president of the United States died at the age of 67 in his bed at Mount Vernon. George Washington's doctors said the cause was ''inflammatory quinsy,'' a severe infection of the throat, but to this day controversy has surrounded his death.
That debate -- did Washington die because of medical malpractice? -- is vividly evoked, though not resolved, in an article in the current issue (1999) of The New England Journal of Medicine. The author, Dr. David Morens, an epidemiologist with the National Institutes of Health in Maryland, pulls together details about Washington's treatment from dozens of published medical and historical sources over nearly two centuries.
''What I've tried to do is describe the medical events and also set Washington's final days in a social and cultural context,'' Dr. Morens, 51, said in an interview. ''My study shows that accusations of malpractice were very much in the air during and immediately after the great man died.''
Dr. Morens writes that when Washington's throat swelled so painfully that he could not swallow, he asked his doctors to bleed him. At the time it was standard medical practice, but the amount of blood removed was staggering -- 80 ounces, or 5 pints, in a single day -- and many people questioned whether he had been bled to death.
Still, bloodletting did not die out as a regular practice until the mid-19th century.
