Accepting ones self

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Blain

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Weakness, strength, being clean, being filthy, being a sinner, being holy screwing up, and doing right these are all things that many people contemplate inside their own hearts even though we say that we are holy righteous and redeemed and that it was never about us being strong or good enough and that it's his holiness and sinlessness that matters and not ours because of human nature even though we say these things and even maybe believe them we still at times contemplate them when we look at ourselves.

I had a discussion with God today going on my walk and it was an educational one to say the least, i have always been one to search my own heart the problem i have is doing so in a non condemning or non judgemental way lol. I spoke to him how I know that i am a child inside in mind heart and soul and that I want to one day mature and grow up to be a responsible respectful mature and upright man, I want to grow out of this child like nature of mine and be like everyone else my age.

But then a thought came to mind which I have no doubt was him responding to me, I am a child in mind nature heart and soul even though my age would say different but what if instead of being concerned with who and what i am not I accept myself as I am? To God it never seemed to matter if I was mature or a grown up in mind and heart in fact it seemed as if because of my childlike mind and heart he and I have always been able to connect in a way that others wouldn't be able to otherwise, and he would because of my child like nature allow me to see, perceive and to receive things that only thew mind and heart of a child could.

It made think to myself how it's so exhausting not liking myself for who I am and how it's such a drag wishing I was this or that when he accepts me and adores me for who I am right now. I began to wonder if many others feel this way too, and maybe that is our main issue. I mean what if what we think we want to become and want to be isn't at all what he does?
I just wanted to post this in hopes that the fruit of my discussion with him might help someone here, Me personally, i have a lot to ponder about from it.
 
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By God's grace I am what I am......so are you Blain.... ;)
 

Nehemiah6

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I mean what if what we think we want to become and want to be isn't at all what he does?
Well before you go too far with that thought, it would be prudent to determine what Scripture reveals about this matter. What is God's ultimate goal for every believer? Two passages should suffice (Rom 8:29 and Eph 1:4:

For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

So just based on these two verses, we can know the mind of God regarding ourselves. We all begin as sinners bound for Hell, and then are justified by grace through faith. But salvation does not end with justification. It ends with perfection and glorification. So in the interim what does God expect? That we should be holy and without blame before Him in love (at present) and be perfectly so in eternity. That actually translates into being "conformed to the image of His Son" who is holy and without blame since He is the perfect Son of God.

In view of this we cannot possibly be satisfied with who we currently are, but need to examine and purge ourselves daily so that "the flesh" is not in control. The apostle John puts it all together in 1 John 3:1-3:

1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.

2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.

Based on the last verse, we cannot accept ourselves the way we are but must move on from where we were to what we will be in eternity. And mortifying (putting to death) the flesh can be painful, yet Paul said "I die daily".
 
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Blain

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Well before you go too far with that thought, it would be prudent to determine what Scripture reveals about this matter. What is God's ultimate goal for every believer? Two passages should suffice (Rom 8:29 and Eph 1:4:

For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

So just based on these two verses, we can know the mind of God regarding ourselves. We all begin as sinners bound for Hell, and then are justified by grace through faith. But salvation does not end with justification. It ends with perfection and glorification. So in the interim what does God expect? That we should be holy and without blame before Him in love (at present) and be perfectly so in eternity. That actually translates into being "conformed to the image of His Son" who is holy and without blame since He is the perfect Son of God.

In view of this we cannot possibly be satisfied with who we currently are, but need to examine and purge ourselves daily so that "the flesh" is not in control. The apostle John puts it all together in 1 John 3:1-3:

1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.

2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.

Based on the last verse, we cannot accept ourselves the way we are but must move on from where we were to what we will be in eternity. And mortifying (putting to death) the flesh can be painful, yet Paul said "I die daily".
That isn't what I meant
 
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Weakness, strength, being clean, being filthy, being a sinner, being holy screwing up, and doing right these are all things that many people contemplate inside their own hearts even though we say that we are holy righteous and redeemed and that it was never about us being strong or good enough and that it's his holiness and sinlessness that matters and not ours because of human nature even though we say these things and even maybe believe them we still at times contemplate them when we look at ourselves.

I had a discussion with God today going on my walk and it was an educational one to say the least, i have always been one to search my own heart the problem i have is doing so in a non condemning or non judgemental way lol. I spoke to him how I know that i am a child inside in mind heart and soul and that I want to one day mature and grow up to be a responsible respectful mature and upright man, I want to grow out of this child like nature of mine and be like everyone else my age.

But then a thought came to mind which I have no doubt was him responding to me, I am a child in mind nature heart and soul even though my age would say different but what if instead of being concerned with who and what i am not I accept myself as I am? To God it never seemed to matter if I was mature or a grown up in mind and heart in fact it seemed as if because of my childlike mind and heart he and I have always been able to connect in a way that others wouldn't be able to otherwise, and he would because of my child like nature allow me to see, perceive and to receive things that only thew mind and heart of a child could.

It made think to myself how it's so exhausting not liking myself for who I am and how it's such a drag wishing I was this or that when he accepts me and adores me for who I am right now. I began to wonder if many others feel this way too, and maybe that is our main issue. I mean what if what we think we want to become and want to be isn't at all what he does?
I just wanted to post this in hopes that the fruit of my discussion with him might help someone here, Me personally, i have a lot to ponder about from it.
Right there with you, Blain.
 

breno785au

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Well before you go too far with that thought, it would be prudent to determine what Scripture reveals about this matter. What is God's ultimate goal for every believer? Two passages should suffice (Rom 8:29 and Eph 1:4:

For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

So just based on these two verses, we can know the mind of God regarding ourselves. We all begin as sinners bound for Hell, and then are justified by grace through faith. But salvation does not end with justification. It ends with perfection and glorification. So in the interim what does God expect? That we should be holy and without blame before Him in love (at present) and be perfectly so in eternity. That actually translates into being "conformed to the image of His Son" who is holy and without blame since He is the perfect Son of God.

In view of this we cannot possibly be satisfied with who we currently are, but need to examine and purge ourselves daily so that "the flesh" is not in control. The apostle John puts it all together in 1 John 3:1-3:

1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.

2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.

Based on the last verse, we cannot accept ourselves the way we are but must move on from where we were to what we will be in eternity. And mortifying (putting to death) the flesh can be painful, yet Paul said "I die daily".
There's a big difference between personality and character. I believe Blain is discussing personality.
 

Joidevivre

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The easiest way to avoid judging yourself vs. accepting yourself is to keep your focus on Jesus. All else just falls into place.

There is no "you" anymore. For "you have died and your life is hidden in Christ Jesus".
 
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Weakness, strength, being clean, being filthy, being a sinner, being holy screwing up, and doing right these are all things that many people contemplate inside their own hearts even though we say that we are holy righteous and redeemed and that it was never about us being strong or good enough and that it's his holiness and sinlessness that matters and not ours because of human nature even though we say these things and even maybe believe them we still at times contemplate them when we look at ourselves.

I had a discussion with God today going on my walk and it was an educational one to say the least, i have always been one to search my own heart the problem i have is doing so in a non condemning or non judgemental way lol. I spoke to him how I know that i am a child inside in mind heart and soul and that I want to one day mature and grow up to be a responsible respectful mature and upright man, I want to grow out of this child like nature of mine and be like everyone else my age.

But then a thought came to mind which I have no doubt was him responding to me, I am a child in mind nature heart and soul even though my age would say different but what if instead of being concerned with who and what i am not I accept myself as I am? To God it never seemed to matter if I was mature or a grown up in mind and heart in fact it seemed as if because of my childlike mind and heart he and I have always been able to connect in a way that others wouldn't be able to otherwise, and he would because of my child like nature allow me to see, perceive and to receive things that only thew mind and heart of a child could.

It made think to myself how it's so exhausting not liking myself for who I am and how it's such a drag wishing I was this or that when he accepts me and adores me for who I am right now. I began to wonder if many others feel this way too, and maybe that is our main issue. I mean what if what we think we want to become and want to be isn't at all what he does?
I just wanted to post this in hopes that the fruit of my discussion with him might help someone here, Me personally, i have a lot to ponder about from it.
"A thought came to your mind" And you suppose it was him? Are you reading your bible often, brother.

God does not pop thoughts in our heads, he's that little still voice that is far removed from our own thoughts.

What you hear should sound sweet, but go sour once you digest it. The reason it sours is that it confronts a deeper sin in the pit of your soul.
 
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Well before you go too far with that thought, it would be prudent to determine what Scripture reveals about this matter. What is God's ultimate goal for every believer? Two passages should suffice (Rom 8:29 and Eph 1:4:

For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

So just based on these two verses, we can know the mind of God regarding ourselves. We all begin as sinners bound for Hell, and then are justified by grace through faith. But salvation does not end with justification. It ends with perfection and glorification. So in the interim what does God expect? That we should be holy and without blame before Him in love (at present) and be perfectly so in eternity. That actually translates into being "conformed to the image of His Son" who is holy and without blame since He is the perfect Son of God.

In view of this we cannot possibly be satisfied with who we currently are, but need to examine and purge ourselves daily so that "the flesh" is not in control. The apostle John puts it all together in 1 John 3:1-3:

1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.

2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.

Based on the last verse, we cannot accept ourselves the way we are but must move on from where we were to what we will be in eternity. And mortifying (putting to death) the flesh can be painful, yet Paul said "I die daily".
This not being satisfied with ourselves is, in my opinion, a hungering for righteousness in our inner man, our heart. :)
 
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BeyondET

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"A thought came to your mind" And you suppose it was him? Are you reading your bible often, brother.

God does not pop thoughts in our heads, he's that little still voice that is far removed from our own thoughts.

What you hear should sound sweet, but go sour once you digest it. The reason it sours is that it confronts a deeper sin in the pit of your soul.
I don't think he wants to be far remove from people's thoughts, but people have to allow that still small voice to come closer and I believe that's of the people's choice, we all can be like Adam hiding in the garden, where are you Adam why are you hiding, God knew where Adam was, Adam chose to come out of hiding, God didn't force him to.

[video=youtube;T4FUBsKzJww]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4FUBsKzJww[/video]
 

lastofall

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Denying ones self is the only acceptable way in Christ Jesus according to Him.
 
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BeyondET

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To the OP...

[video=youtube;23QEU-hyL7Q]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23QEU-hyL7Q[/video]
 
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BeyondET

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Have a good weekend blain, I'm out for the weekend myself :)

child like nature I understand for its in me as well, it's the holding on to the innocence that we are born with,

slowing this world try's and erode that as we get older through life we are bombarded with these temptations and trails etc.

Don't let go but let the child within live. :)

God bless brother
 
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savedtoast

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I don't think he wants to be far remove from people's thoughts, but people have to allow that still small voice to come closer and I believe that's of the people's choice, we all can be like Adam hiding in the garden, where are you Adam why are you hiding, God knew where Adam was, Adam chose to come out of hiding, God didn't force him to.
The difference between Adam and us, is that the Lord was in the garden with him. Walking around the garden with them, but we are banned from the garden still.
 
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by God's Grace,

we are becoming what He expects us to become in order to be a partaker of His Holy Kingdom...
 
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Weakness, strength, being clean, being filthy, being a sinner, being holy screwing up, and doing right these are all things that many people contemplate inside their own hearts even though we say that we are holy righteous and redeemed and that it was never about us being strong or good enough and that it's his holiness and sinlessness that matters and not ours because of human nature even though we say these things and even maybe believe them we still at times contemplate them when we look at ourselves.

I had a discussion with God today going on my walk and it was an educational one to say the least, i have always been one to search my own heart the problem i have is doing so in a non condemning or non judgemental way lol. I spoke to him how I know that i am a child inside in mind heart and soul and that I want to one day mature and grow up to be a responsible respectful mature and upright man, I want to grow out of this child like nature of mine and be like everyone else my age.

But then a thought came to mind which I have no doubt was him responding to me, I am a child in mind nature heart and soul even though my age would say different but what if instead of being concerned with who and what i am not I accept myself as I am? To God it never seemed to matter if I was mature or a grown up in mind and heart in fact it seemed as if because of my childlike mind and heart he and I have always been able to connect in a way that others wouldn't be able to otherwise, and he would because of my child like nature allow me to see, perceive and to receive things that only thew mind and heart of a child could.

It made think to myself how it's so exhausting not liking myself for who I am and how it's such a drag wishing I was this or that when he accepts me and adores me for who I am right now. I began to wonder if many others feel this way too, and maybe that is our main issue. I mean what if what we think we want to become and want to be isn't at all what he does?
I just wanted to post this in hopes that the fruit of my discussion with him might help someone here, Me personally, i have a lot to ponder about from it.
Oh you would bring up the hard subjects, wouldn't you? I've fought that one all my life. You can make mistake after mistake after mistake and I'll go...Well he's trying. Well he's not perfect yet. Well he's only human (which is not true by the way) or any number of other excuses for you, but if I do not do 100% my own self....Oh Boy. Condemnation, criticism, anger, frustration etc.

Listen! The problem, I've discovered, is not lack of acceptance of self. Its not believing the Love of God for me! My head says "God loves me" But my spirit, ME does not. That is what needs worked on for me. How about you? Could it be? If you believe Gods love for you, would you not see yourself from Gods viewpoint? Instead of Satan's viewpoint?
 
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"A thought came to your mind" And you suppose it was him? Are you reading your bible often, brother.

God does not pop thoughts in our heads, he's that little still voice that is far removed from our own thoughts.

What you hear should sound sweet, but go sour once you digest it. The reason it sours is that it confronts a deeper sin in the pit of your soul.
There are three voices you will hear...You will hear your voice, You will hear Gods voice, and you will hears Satan's voice (or his minions) You have to learn to recognize each voice. Know who is doing the talking.. I know. Your mother talks to you, father, siblings, friends.......But who is talking through them at or to you?
 
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There are three voices you will hear...You will hear your voice, You will hear Gods voice, and you will hears Satan's voice (or his minions) You have to learn to recognize each voice. Know who is doing the talking.. I know. Your mother talks to you, father, siblings, friends.......But who is talking through them at or to you?
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everything changes 'after REAL-CONVERSION', we may hear echo's of satan's old shananigans,
that we must 'over-come' in order to GROW-UP' into Christ,
but 'after CONVERSION', he has no more 'power-control-influence over us, we belong to Jesus/Yeshua,
'lock-stock-and-SPIRIT'...