RUNNING THROUGH THE GARDEN NAKED.....

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p_rehbein

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No, no, not what you think...... :)

It actually happened on the night Christ was taken into custody by the Soldiers in the Garden. I have read this passage of Scripture many times, but never paid much attention to the young man "streaking" away in fear!

Mark 14:50) And they all forsook him, and fled. 51 .) And there followed him a certain young man, having a linen cloth cast about his naked body; and the young men laid hold on him: 52
.) And he left the linen cloth, and fled from them naked.

Thinking about who this young man could have been, I looked through several Commentaries, and got several opinions. Way it goes when discussing Scripture is it not? :)




Mark 14:51 Commentary - John Gill's Exposition of the Bible

Who's the Naked Guy and Why Does He Matter? | Desiring God

Just F.Y.I.




 
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And the widow of Nain, her risen son left his garment behind, huh what kind of symbolic meaning could this be.

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Thanks for making this thread p_rehbain, you are blessed indeed, I've learned something about this event that I had not known before quite a few things about it, it's small event but such a great hidden gem of mystery it is. the two diciples that went to the tomb and saw the linen cloth lying there were Jesus was placed, didn't look back at this event as being yet another example of the resurrection and what they would see in the tomb. they didn't put two and two together for they walked away wondering what had happen after looking at the linen cloth left behind after Jesus resurrection. I'm a firm believer now that the young man who left the scene leaving his linen cloth garment behind was none other than the son of the widow of Nain.
 

p_rehbein

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An interesting theory :) Thanks........
 

Angela53510

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We were studying this in Daily Greek, a 2 minute analysis verse by verse through the Bible I get emailed daily from a Greek prof at Southern, I believe! The professor says at one time, it was thought this man was Mark, and a bit of autobiography. However, the early church fathers are unanimous that Mark did not join the apostles till after the Ascension. Therefore, it must have been someone Peter saw, as he is the source material for Mark.

For those who are interested:

Learn Biblical Greek | Daily Dose of Greek
 
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An interesting theory :) Thanks........
Your welcome bro,

A added little note, Jesus chose the widow of Nain for a reason, Joseph isn't mentioned after Jesus was 12 years old. The bible doesn't say what happen to him if he was still alive or what, but I think this is why Jesus chose the widow, for His mother was a widow too.
 
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To me, it's straining at gnats.

I've seen so much "what do you think?" instead of "what does the Bible say?"

Getting used to "telling what we think" about small, unimportant things in scripture will lead us by habit to do so with all of the scripture.

IMO, it's the reason many don't hear the Spirit, because they're too busy depending on their own thinking.
 
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To me, it's straining at gnats.

I've seen so much "what do you think?" instead of "what does the Bible say?"

Getting used to "telling what we think" about small, unimportant things in scripture will lead us by habit to do so with all of the scripture.

IMO, it's the reason many don't hear the Spirit, because they're too busy depending on their own thinking.
I hear ya man, though IMO nothing in the bible is unimportant, sorry bro but that's sad way to look at scripture to view things as small unimportant things is quite odd.

God does come into people's lives and warns, brings knowledge and or understanding, God is that small still voice as well as that small still message one may see or hear around them and or through other people, I've looked at the verses posted in this thread probably 2 dozen times, though it took another person posting about it for the light bulb to click on, I too can get in a bad habit of just milling over the small things in the bible and assume they are unimportant, is a mistake indeed. Knowing when God is giving you a hint about something can be of life and death importance in some cases.
 
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there are hidden mysteries in the bible, the only way to understand and find them is to be looking at the small details, the assumed unimportant things of scripture and let God work with you to confirm it and this can be by many ways or through other people.
 
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Thinking about who this young man could have been, I looked through several Commentaries, and got several opinions. Way it goes when discussing Scripture is it not? :)
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Adam... running from the Garden... naked
 

p_rehbein

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The theory that he was a young man from the house where Jesus stayed has some merit. And, the one that he was just a young man living in the town who was wakened by the commotion of the Soldiers passing by on their way to the Garden, jumped out of bet and followed them to see what was up............and then was mistaken as a Disciple of Christ has also some merit. Most of the theories have some merit. One belief is that he was James, the brother of Christ......but don't know how they work that one out.

As for not having meaning...... I dunno........now, it it some HUGE CLUE to some GREAT MYSTERY? Probably not, but the Bible I read says ALL SCRIPTURE IS..............nowhere do I see it saying "except for the meaningless little one liners we just threw in there to fill up the Epistle.........."

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We were studying this in Daily Greek, a 2 minute analysis verse by verse through the Bible I get emailed daily from a Greek prof at Southern, I believe! The professor says at one time, it was thought this man was Mark, and a bit of autobiography. However, the early church fathers are unanimous that Mark did not join the apostles till after the Ascension. Therefore, it must have been someone Peter saw, as he is the source material for Mark.

For those who are interested:

Learn Biblical Greek | Daily Dose of Greek
 

1ofthem

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there are hidden mysteries in the bible, the only way to understand and find them is to be looking at the small details, the assumed unimportant things of scripture and let God work with you to confirm it and this can be by many ways or through other people.
Yeah, it’s not a good idea to skip through things in the Bible and call them unimportant. I used to do this a lot. I would skip through things and go for the main idea and missed many things that seemed to be just small or unimportant details, but upon further thought and prayer these small things held many very important messages. I’m beginning to learn that the scripture was inspired by God and there are many powerful messages in there and nothing in the scripture is unimportant… it is all there for a reason. We’ve got to be willing to search it out and not just skip over parts of it.

I also know that this is how God works in our lives, as well. He is always getting us prepared. He speaks to us all along our walk to give us the information we need so that we can be prepared. We have to be listening and watching, though, because he talks to us in many different ways.

Sometimes these things can seem unimportant, small, or even odd, but we need to always be listening and learning because the information that God is giving us is important. I truly believe that he gives us information to prepare us for upcoming events in our life so that we will be able to make right decisions in those events which could be life changing or even mean the difference between life and death….But we have to be willing to follow his advice and look for his messages no matter how small or odd they may seem at the time.
 
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Yeah, it’s not a good idea to skip through things in the Bible and call them unimportant. I used to do this a lot. I would skip through things and go for the main idea and missed many things that seemed to be just small or unimportant details, but upon further thought and prayer these small things held many very important messages. I’m beginning to learn that the scripture was inspired by God and there are many powerful messages in there and nothing in the scripture is unimportant… it is all there for a reason. We’ve got to be willing to search it out and not just skip over parts of it.

I also know that this is how God works in our lives, as well. He is always getting us prepared. He speaks to us all along our walk to give us the information we need so that we can be prepared. We have to be listening and watching, though, because he talks to us in many different ways.

Sometimes these things can seem unimportant, small, or even odd, but we need to always be listening and learning because the information that God is giving us is important. I truly believe that he gives us information to prepare us for upcoming events in our life so that we will be able to make right decisions in those events which could be life changing or even mean the difference between life and death….But we have to be willing to follow his advice and look for his messages no matter how small or odd they may seem at the time.
Very true indeed, for me sometimes just a passing bird by my window or a bird landing on my side mirror and looking at me, this happened at work for a couple of days in a row after the first day I knew who it was :), simple things can be a message from God simply just saying hello good morning, I'm here and watching and wanting to help you.
 

tanakh

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Adam... running from the Garden... naked
You are right The whole Gethsemane account is the Eden Story in reverse. Christ represents the tree of life. In Eden
Adam and Eve were prevented from eating from the tree. In Gethsemane he made himself freely available. The young man
running naked represents all who are in Christ., who is also called the second Adam. As to who he actually was is secondary to who he represents.
 
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Quite informative indeed, yea that young man at the tomb could very well be the same young man from the Olive tree Garden, as well he could have been Jesus in disguise as he did a few times after the resurrection not sure on that could be either or.

The one thing I found interesting in that write was the author mainly honed in on Mark, true marks account doesn't say angel or anything like that so he could have been a physical being, but I do believe it was somewhat disorderly people running all about to and fro.

Reading John's account clearly there was two angels in the tomb, IMO this happened twice once when Mary Magdalene went to the tomb alone and saw the two angels then she told the disciples and Mary Jesus mother, then both Mary's went to the tomb that's when the young man was seen standing there in the tomb. To get a full picture I think it's good to look at the whole account from the four gospels and piece the whole account back together.


John 20:12
And seeth two angels in white sitting, the one at the head, and the other at the feet, where the body of Jesus had lain.