How does one love someone like Hitler?

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wwjd_kilden

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It is not our jobs to hate them. It is our jobs to pray for them.
Do not assume the news presents the whole picture regarding the present day "Enemies" as it is very one sided. Take a look at each situation and find out what is actually going on. For example, why was the North Korea leader issuing threats unless he was provoked? Provoked by who? Now is your chance to do so research as if your results mirror mine it is eyeopening! (I'm not saying the man is perfect before anyone quotes me! I'm saying there is a far bigger picture to the situation, just like if one does some research into Saddam or Bin Laden (Who was reportedly killed over ten times over many years... Seemingly timed just before each election! Not surprising the coffin was eventually buried at sea as if it was on land and questions were asked and they dug it up, would they find a body?)
While I agree with the general idea of what you are saying
...but..... you do know that the leader of NK is mentally ill right? He'd easily attack even if no- one was doing anything.
That being said, I don't trust ANY leader with access to nuclear or far- reaching arms.
 
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In what moment did I defend evil people or say they won't go to hell if they don't repent?
No, you said God doesn't hate them, but hates what they did. Untrue. God has big time wrath! He hates better than anyone else. And, if he choose to hate someone, (which he has), that's big time BAD! He does not go easy on those he hates.
 
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As Christians we should love everyone. But I have to confess that when I think of people like Hitler and Kim Jong Un, I feel nothing but rage. How does one love these type of people?
Love isn't about how you feel about someone. It is how you treat someone. And it's okay to protect ourselves from those who would do us harm.
 

trofimus

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Who would guess that inquiring about the accuracy of a historically ambiguous event would carry a penalty of life in prison?

Who would guess that so-called Jewish rulers of Russia would genocide countless millions of Europeans but it wasn't taught in schools because the victims weren't so-called Jews?


No idea.

I never heard of anyone being for life in prison because of what you say.

And we learn about the crimes of communism quite a lot.
 

Zen

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No idea.

I never heard of anyone being for life in prison because of what you say.

And we learn about the crimes of communism quite a lot.
Yeah, people get locked up for a long time for saying they have evidence that the holocaust didn't happen. It doesn't help that the official numbers of people killed have been changed drastically. First it was like 3 million, then 6 million, and last I heard they were trying to raise the number to 20million or so.

Notice how 'Communist Jew/bolshevism genocide' had its wikipedia page edited (and protected) by people claiming that it's "anti-semitism" and calling it a conspiracy theory.

Synagogue of satan, it will do the works of the adversary.
 
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The Lord takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked for sure, but his righteousness and holiness demands justice and judgment....to be able to love someone unlovable goes beyond human emotion and is divine.....

As far as Hitler, Stalin (who killed way more than Hitler), Pol Pot, Lil KIM etc......is it possible to despise someone, despise their actions and lifestyle while having the same love that God has for them?.....now that is a tough one for sure......

Huckleberry covers the Proverbs 6 list.....and even Esau was hated because he devalued his birthright and sold it for the proverbial bowl of beans.....

God's ways are so much higher than our ways for sure........!
 
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savedtoast

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As Christians we should love everyone. But I have to confess that when I think of people like Hitler and Kim Jong Un, I feel nothing but rage. How does one love these type of people?
You feel rage? That's not right. Compulsory love is a sick doctrine man has created.

Do you think that maybe you're chasing a feeling to feel towards these kinds of people? Love ultimately is an action, it's more than a squishy feeling about someone. Any person can sit back on their couch and feel lovey towards someone. But that's not love your brother or love your enemy.

Jesus said "Do" good towards your enemies and you will pile coal upon their heads. So it's an action here rather than feelings.

Do you understand.
 
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As Christians we should love everyone. But I have to confess that when I think of people like Hitler and Kim Jong Un, I feel nothing but rage. How does one love these type of people?
The Bible says follow peace with all people,with holiness,without which no person shall see the Lord.

If it be possible,follow peace with all people,as much as lies in you.

Our love towards people will be on a different level,from person to person,and we cannot show the outward expression of love the same with all people.

Some people we can say hi to them,but cannot shake their hand,or hug them.

Some we can shake their hand,but not hug.

Some we can hug.

Some people will be even less outward appearance of love if they are persecuting us,but we show love that way by not fighting back,which the Bible says,resist evil,spiritually,do not resist evil,physically.

Feed and clothe your enemies.

Our outward appearance of love towards people will be on a different level from person to person,and God knows that,but we still have to get along with them.

Love is not wanting any harm to come to anybody,and want nothing but the best for them regardless of how they act,for we are not to condemn anyone,and leave it to God to deal with them.

In the case of Hitler a person that is a Christian would not want to shake his hand,or hug him,but that does not mean they do not love him,for they want no harm to come to him,but they would still have to follow peace with him however it may be,by maybe saying God loves you,and change your ways.
 

Billyd

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How did Jesus demonstrate his love for the money changers?
 

WebersHome

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How did Jesus demonstrate his love for the money changers?
Jesus was micromanaged.

John 4:34 . . My food, said Jesus, is to do the will of him who sent me

John 6:38 . . I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will, but
the will of Him who sent me.

John 8:28 . . I do nothing on my own initiative

John 8:29 . . He that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me
alone; for I do always those things that please Him.

John 10:30 . . I and my Father are unified.

According to Ps 69:9 and John 2:17, Jesus was not happy with the way
things were going on around the Temple. However, it was his Father's will
to clear out the vendors and their wares; so you can't go and blame His son
for that. Jesus was only following orders; and had he not, then according to
1Sam 15:22-23 Jesus would have been no better than a pagan and/or a sorcerer
and a witch.

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WebersHome

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Jesus was micromanaged.
Jesus was under his Father's orders. (John 6:38, John 8:28-29)

Jesus' followers are under Jesus' orders. (John 15:10, John 15:14, 1Cor
14:37, 1Ths 4:1-2)

Jesus was directed by God to be unkind to certain people. Jesus' followers
are directed to be unkind to no one. In other words: Jesus' operations were
on a different level than his followers' operations. There were things that
Jesus was authorized to do that his rank and file followers are not authorized
to do.

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Adstar

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As Christians we should love everyone. But I have to confess that when I think of people like Hitler and Kim Jong Un, I feel nothing but rage. How does one love these type of people?
Contemplate Hitler and Kim Jong Un in absolute agony in the eternal lake of fire where they will have nothing but extreme torment for ever and ever and ever,, eternally.... Then think about it.. Or try to contemplate it... Would you not want even the worst of people to be saved from such a place?
 
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savedtoast

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You know, Jesus only showed his teeth on that one occasion. I wouldn't recommend creating a whole world view around Jesus whipping some corrupted money lenders.
 
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I'd recommend staying far from the world view of Jesus and sticking to how he presented himself. He was constantly rebuking people. Even a few of his own disciples. Constantly warning us in love about the dangers of sin and the true workings of judgement day on his return. Brood of vipers he said talking to hypocrites, whitewashed tombs he called those full of greed, slander, blaming the same for the blood of all the saints. It's not a good idea to try to bend Jesus to what man will accept. He was perfect how he presented himself.

merciful, gracious, stern, didn't mince words, didn't fear telling those who would be offended. Spoke rep tante, forgiveness, righteousness, taught obedience to his word. Expressed Gods love, spoke the deep things of God . Jesus wasn't going around telling people they were already perfect or they didn't need to repent and live right, he wasn't suggesting anything but teaching the direct word of the same exact God who flooded the world because of sin.

God is good, and he is also just, he wasn't vague about right and wrong, nor does he forget to give us the means to overcome the world and live in his Son.
 

Desertsrose

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For, “The one who desires life, to love and see good days,

Must keep his tongue from evil and his lips from speaking deceit.

“HE must turn away from evil and do good;

HE must seek peace and pursue it.


“For the eyes of the Lord are toward the righteous,

And His ears attend to their prayer,

But the face of the Lord is against those who do evil.”

Who is there to harm you if you prove zealous for what is good? But even if you should suffer for the sake of righteousness, you are blessed. And do not fear their intimidation, and do not be troubled, but sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts, always being ready to make a defense to everyone who asks you to give an account for the hope that is in you, yet with gentleness and reverence; and keep a good conscience so that in the thing in which you are slandered, those who revile your good behavior in Christ will be put to shame. For it is better, if God should will it so, that you suffer for doing what is right rather than for doing what is wrong.