Can we pray Mary?

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Gabriel2020

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None other than the Catholic Church that had Jesus killed. giving him over to the roman government by the high priest of that church.
 
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None other than the Catholic Church that had Jesus killed. giving him over to the roman government by the high priest of that church.
The Romanist church did not kill Jesus at all. Well at least no more than your own sin did. Jesus died because of sin, not because of a single religion....Come on!
 
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The Romanist church did not kill Jesus at all. Well at least no more than your own sin did. Jesus died because of sin, not because of a single religion....Come on!
I agree. Thank you for your comment.
Blessings
 

Gabriel2020

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yes, they were in place before Jesus came to preach. They are now back in Italy where they came from.
 

Gabriel2020

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You miss everything. when the high priest of the church and jews turned him over to Pilate the governor to answer to his so called crimes, they cried out to kill him and let barnabus go instead. and so they did.
 

Gabriel2020

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They were the priest of the synagogues under the mosiac law of God. They did not believe that Jesus was the son of God.
 
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You miss everything. when the high priest of the church and jews turned him over to Pilate the governor to answer to his so called crimes, they cried out to kill him and let barnabus go instead. and so they did.
They were all Jews. They did not belong to the Catholic Church.
 
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Magenta wrote,



A Catholic can either believe that she died or did not die. Personally, I believe that she did die and then was assumed into Heaven.



There is evidence that it was alluded to.



But how can you judge something to be heretical or not?
why do you "assume"'that magenta is judging???
is stating "facts" judging???
"Anyone" "can believe" on the "doctrine" of Catholics magenta was more of stating how she "feels" as well as how God according to his "word"(which is not only "doctrine" it is what he has spoken himself,"for in the beginning was the word and the word was God")"feels" on this subject,mary was blessed above all women but nowhere in God's "word" is it written nor spoken by God to pray to mary,nor put her on any same respect as God or Jesus,in fact in God's "word" it has been written and spoken many times of how God is against "Any" idolatry,which is simply what either praying to mary or putting mary in the same respect as God or Jesus,such things have come from the hearts of men the heart being deceitful,many "can" choose to believe upon such "things" of man that are "vanity" but those whom "Respect" and "Fear" God simply do not partake in such "iniquity" because true we do have grace now but that is no reason to no longer "Fear" God,and not partake of what he finds abominable or that he detests,I can say to anyone here loud and clear that mary while "blessed" is not God nor any comparison to so she is not to be prayed to nor is she to be known as equal to God or Jesus,God's "word" is very "clear" on this,whether a person will be for God or for iniquity is up to the individual,to summarize...
was mary blessed above all women?
Yes
was she birth mother to God made flesh as a virgin?
Yes
was she any comparison to God?
No
is she or anyone that is not God or Jesus or the Holy spirit to be prayed to?
No
why do people so quickly turn about to mary instead of Jesus or God,because it's simply "easier" to believe upon what fits what people want instead of what God wants,mary does not participate nor would she encourage such foolishness as a devout follower of Jesus,whether she is simply dead or ascended,she is not here,it would be nice if people stopped using her name as something to hide behind,she wouldn't approve of being worshipped nor prayed to nor do God or Jesus,she was "respectable" and is still "respectable" but "using" her name for iniquity is "disrespectful" to the devout follower and birth mother of Jesus mary magdalene,let her rest where ever she is,her time on earth ended long ago,if anyone "Respects" mary,God or Jesus,then Praise and Pray to God/Jesus instead of mary she lived a "blessed" life and was "honorable" accepting to conceive Jesus,but remember whom made "All" including mary magdalene,God,he made "All" and is worthy of praise and "answers" prayers so it is best to pray to him.
 

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the catholic church is that same church today under the high priest, the pope. no other church has a high priest.
 
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the catholic church is that same church today under the high priest, the pope. no other church has a high priest.
no every "True" church has a "high priest" Jesus the only "True" high priest.
 

Gabriel2020

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That maybe true, but this church practice idoltry, the same way they did in Jesus's day.and this is the same church that had him killed. it still exist today. Read st. matthew 27; verses 11 to 31 and then tell me what you think.
 
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joefizz wrote,

"why do you "assume"'that magenta is judging???
is stating "facts" judging???"

But are those true facts or her perceived facts?

"Anyone" "can believe" on the "doctrine" of Catholics magenta was more of stating how she "feels" as well as how God according to his "word"(which is not only "doctrine" it is what he has spoken himself,"for in the beginning was the word and the word was God")"feels" on this subject,mary was blessed above all women but nowhere in God's "word" is it written nor spoken by God to pray to mary,"

So is it wrong to ask others to pray for us?

"nor put her on any same respect as God or Jesus,"

Catholics do not believe that she is on the same level as God. I also want to ask you this. You stated, "God or Jesus." Do you bevel that God and Jesus are different?

"she wouldn't approve of being worshipped"

Catholics would not approve of her being worshiped either. Catholics do not believe that she is God.


 
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the catholic church is that same church today under the high priest, the pope. no other church has a high priest.
1. The Catholic Church was founded by Our Lord.
2. The Pope is not the high priest. Jesus Christ is our High Priest. The Pope is merely His representative on earth.
 
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That maybe true, but this church practice idoltry, the same way they did in Jesus's day.and this is the same church that had him killed. it still exist today. Read st. matthew 27; verses 11 to 31 and then tell me what you think.
All religions practice idolatry, including some "Christian denominations"
 
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joefizz

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joefizz wrote,

"why do you "assume"'that magenta is judging???
is stating "facts" judging???"

But are those true facts or her perceived facts?

"Anyone" "can believe" on the "doctrine" of Catholics magenta was more of stating how she "feels" as well as how God according to his "word"(which is not only "doctrine" it is what he has spoken himself,"for in the beginning was the word and the word was God")"feels" on this subject,mary was blessed above all women but nowhere in God's "word" is it written nor spoken by God to pray to mary,"

So is it wrong to ask others to pray for us?

"nor put her on any same respect as God or Jesus,"

Catholics do not believe that she is on the same level as God. I also want to ask you this. You stated, "God or Jesus." Do you bevel that God and Jesus are different?

"she wouldn't approve of being worshipped"

Catholics would not approve of her being worshiped either. Catholics do not believe that she is God.


no it's not wrong to ask people to pray for us unless they are dead,then that is useless,....
no God and Jesus are one and the same I just was speaking the names of God's "forms",simple