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I agree that its not wrong to ask people to pray for us. Assuming they are not dead. I would be very careful though as to who I ask to pray though. If we do not pray according to the Word, we will not get our prayers answered by God. On the other hand there is one who is eager to answer ungodly prayers. Ungodly prayers can be curses. Not intentionally of course but still curses.
J
I suppose that went right over your head I was speaking in a "logical" stand point,mary magdalene as I stated before is either dead or ascended,if one prays to someone dead to pray for them that is not God/Jesus,then it is futile,only praying to God/Jesus is of any use,for example if one were to pray to one of God's followers that have either died or ascended,that would be folly,because for one they would not oppose God,and they don't have God's power to answer prayer with action of some sort.
True enough. But they have departed from this earth, and that is the point that is being raised.
There is absolutely no biblical support for petitioning the saints in Heaven. Why? Because we are invited to come DIRECTLY AND BOLDLY to the Throne of God -- to God the Father Himself, in the Name of the Son, sand by the power of the Spirit of God.
There is absolutely no biblical support for petitioning the saints in Heaven. Why? Because we are invited to come DIRECTLY AND BOLDLY to the Throne of God -- to God the Father Himself, in the Name of the Son, sand by the power of the Spirit of God.
Mary died...She was not 'raptured' alive. She died
; "> Mary’s Grave
It is recorded in the Gospel of John that Jesus told the Apostle John to take care of His Mother, Mary. As noted earlier, John cared for Mary as if she were his own mother. After leaving the isle of Patmos, John went back to the city of Ephesus and lived there for twenty more years planting churches in the area. John died and was buried in the city of Ephesus, while Polycarp, his disciple, continued the church-planting work for another twenty years. A church was built over the tomb of the Apostle John. In time, a mosque replaced the church. Mary, Jesus’ mother, and Timothy are also buried in Ephesus.
Just thought you might want a history lesson Do we believe the ancient popes who were eye-witnesses of the apostles or current popes who were not eye-witnesses of the apostles and have changed doctrine they have no right to change?
; "> Mary’s Grave
It is recorded in the Gospel of John that Jesus told the Apostle John to take care of His Mother, Mary. As noted earlier, John cared for Mary as if she were his own mother. After leaving the isle of Patmos, John went back to the city of Ephesus and lived there for twenty more years planting churches in the area. John died and was buried in the city of Ephesus, while Polycarp, his disciple, continued the church-planting work for another twenty years. A church was built over the tomb of the Apostle John. In time, a mosque replaced the church. Mary, Jesus’ mother, and Timothy are also buried in Ephesus.
Just thought you might want a history lesson Do we believe the ancient popes who were eye-witnesses of the apostles or current popes who were not eye-witnesses of the apostles and have changed doctrine they have no right to change?
God is God of the living. This is true.
Someone here, however, did bring up the point of omnipresence.
Can a saint hear all the prayers that are being said to him/her?
I don't see how.
I think of the Communion of the Saints as being something totally different.
We are all joined to God in spirit.
But can anyone except God hear prayers?
Someone here, however, did bring up the point of omnipresence.
Can a saint hear all the prayers that are being said to him/her?
I don't see how.
I think of the Communion of the Saints as being something totally different.
We are all joined to God in spirit.
But can anyone except God hear prayers?
First of all, why assume the prayers are ungodly?
What would be an ungodly prayer? You mean something out of God's will?
Or maybe praying to make a fortune?
As far as "one who is eager to answer ungodly prayers"...
Wouldn't that make a house-divided?
If we're praying to God, I believe God has to answer.
If this is not so, then we'd NEVER be sure who is answering!
What would be an ungodly prayer? You mean something out of God's will?
Or maybe praying to make a fortune?
As far as "one who is eager to answer ungodly prayers"...
Wouldn't that make a house-divided?
If we're praying to God, I believe God has to answer.
If this is not so, then we'd NEVER be sure who is answering!
I will answer this way......If you have a need, you want to pray about it. So you go to the Word and find out Gods will concerning it. Gods will is Gods Word. So now you have the need, you know Gods will, and you pray according to Gods will. Healing for example. You need healing....You look up what God says about healing. By His Word you KNOW that God wants you healthy and whole. By Jesus striped you WERE healed. You also know that healing is already done. So you go to the Father and tell Him. "See? Your Word says I am already healed. So I stand on your promise. I claim my healing, I receive it. It is mine and I reach out to you and take it according to your promise to me." This is praying according to His Word.
Or conversely...Don't look and see what God has to say...Just whine to Him "Oh God! I'm so unworthy! If it be thy will...please heal me." Yuck!! God looks around and says "Yes This is my retarded kid." Ok...He doesn't really say that. I do. LOL But its this kind of powerless and ungodly prayer that Christians tend to pray, then wonder why they don't get answers...Then, not getting answers, they make excuses for God, and why He couldn't or wouldn't heal them but wants them sick so they can learn something.
Its an ungodly prayer because it does not take any thought of what God says about it. It takes no faith at all because they don't expect to be healed at all. If its your will.....The Word says plainly what His will is. If they would take the time to find out by searching it out in Gods Word, they would not need that sappy false humility. "I'm so unworthy!" False humility! The Word says we have been made worthy.
If our prayers do not line up with Gods Word.....They are ungodly.
Or conversely...Don't look and see what God has to say...Just whine to Him "Oh God! I'm so unworthy! If it be thy will...please heal me." Yuck!! God looks around and says "Yes This is my retarded kid." Ok...He doesn't really say that. I do. LOL But its this kind of powerless and ungodly prayer that Christians tend to pray, then wonder why they don't get answers...Then, not getting answers, they make excuses for God, and why He couldn't or wouldn't heal them but wants them sick so they can learn something.
Its an ungodly prayer because it does not take any thought of what God says about it. It takes no faith at all because they don't expect to be healed at all. If its your will.....The Word says plainly what His will is. If they would take the time to find out by searching it out in Gods Word, they would not need that sappy false humility. "I'm so unworthy!" False humility! The Word says we have been made worthy.
If our prayers do not line up with Gods Word.....They are ungodly.
I agree that God does not want us sick so we could learn something.
If He's GOD and can't figure out another way to teach us something, it kind of brings Him down to our level.
I do want to say, however, that God CAN use anything for someone's benefit. Even sickness.
I don't want to be sick. But maybe it could help someone in some way. So God USES the bad circumstance, not that He CAUSES it.
As far as the healing, I do understand what you mean about finding out God's will.
But it's God's will that we all have health, isn't it?
So if your statements are correct, why do some people get healed and some don't??
Everyone who prays for a serious healing REALLY wants it.
If He's GOD and can't figure out another way to teach us something, it kind of brings Him down to our level.
I do want to say, however, that God CAN use anything for someone's benefit. Even sickness.
I don't want to be sick. But maybe it could help someone in some way. So God USES the bad circumstance, not that He CAUSES it.
As far as the healing, I do understand what you mean about finding out God's will.
But it's God's will that we all have health, isn't it?
So if your statements are correct, why do some people get healed and some don't??
Everyone who prays for a serious healing REALLY wants it.
J
I agree to a degree,our prayers ought to be guided by the holy spirit but if you mean that every prayer we pray must be exact in matching biblically with the bible,that's not accurate,each prayer should be "humble" and "sincere" when praying to God,for example there is a prayer in the book of matthew but reciting it would only be educational and spiritually uplifting,but it is not "our" prayer,so reciting it to God without your "heart" in your prayer would not be an acceptable prayer.
C
Mary is dead she cant hear you we as Christians don't talk with dead people Ecclesiastes 9:5 says the dead know nothing. They are no help to you. Jesus is alive so he can hear us. but do what ever you want. Jesus is our mediator. Anyone claiming to have seen or talked to or prayed to Mary are mistaken these are occult pagan practices and thereby satanic.
Yes..God can and will use anything He can to bring us closer to Him and to teach us. But consider...That is what His Word is for. Romans 8:28 says that All things work together for good to those that love God and are the called....." God will use a broken leg, but He doesn't want you to have a broken leg. You said "So if your statements are correct, why do some people get healed and some don't??
Everyone who prays for a serious healing REALLY wants it." Do they really want it? Well ok. Most do. But it comes down to this. If you don't know that its Gods will that you be healed, how can you believe Him for it? Simply put...You won't believe Him for it and thus..you will not receive it. Receive means to reach out and take it....You won't do that if you don't know that it belongs to you, and that you have a right to it.
Everyone who prays for a serious healing REALLY wants it." Do they really want it? Well ok. Most do. But it comes down to this. If you don't know that its Gods will that you be healed, how can you believe Him for it? Simply put...You won't believe Him for it and thus..you will not receive it. Receive means to reach out and take it....You won't do that if you don't know that it belongs to you, and that you have a right to it.
I like that Joe....OUr prayers ought to be humble...So what is humble? Humility is simply bowing to Gods will...Not a fake thingy like "I'm so unworthy." Humility is not contradicting Gods Word. And no, you don't have to quote chapter and verse at Him but your requests should line up at least with His Word. Wouldn't you say?
I have a right to it?
Then why isn't my husband healed of parkinsons?
I know God wants us healthy.
I feel like sickness is demonic, and it is.
But my husband doesn't get well.
Do you believe that everyone who demands, or reaches out to get their healing, will have it?
You're making it sound like maybe some don't really want the healing...
Then why isn't my husband healed of parkinsons?
I know God wants us healthy.
I feel like sickness is demonic, and it is.
But my husband doesn't get well.
Do you believe that everyone who demands, or reaches out to get their healing, will have it?
You're making it sound like maybe some don't really want the healing...
Dear Lady We do have a right to it. As to why your hugsband is not healed.....Ask God, not me. I have no idea what your hugsband is dealing with.
I beieve that we are already healed 1 Pete 2:24 Talk to the God who heals ALL of our dis-eases Ps 103 and let Him tell you whats blocking your hubby's healing. You will get a much more accurate answer.
I beieve that we are already healed 1 Pete 2:24 Talk to the God who heals ALL of our dis-eases Ps 103 and let Him tell you whats blocking your hubby's healing. You will get a much more accurate answer.