Random Question: What Are Intersex People Expected to Do Relationship-wise?

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So, random questions randomly occur to me and this is one of them: What are intersex people expected to do relationship wise? There are a wide-range of variations of this condition. Some are genetically one gender while outwardly appearing to be another (and don't necessarily know they have the condition until something requires them to have some type of test done and surprise!). Some appear to be two genders at once but internally are only one.
I can't imagine how difficult this must be for people. What are they expected to do relationship-wise? Are they supposed to follow their outward gender or chromosomal gender? What if someone thought he/she was female, married a member of the opposite sex, only to find out he/she was actually a member of the opposite sex? Apparently (and this is a random article so it could be wrong) 1 out of 100 people are born as intersex.
 
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That's a toughy...
 
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ROSSELLA said:
So, random questions randomly occur to me and this is one of them: What are intersex people expected to do relationship wise? There are a wide-range of variations of this condition. Some are genetically one gender while outwardly appearing to be another (and don't necessarily know they have the condition until something requires them to have some type of test done and surprise!). Some appear to be two genders at once but internally are only one.
I can't imagine how difficult this must be for people. What are they expected to do relationship-wise? Are they supposed to follow their outward gender or chromosomal gender? What if someone thought he/she was female, married a member of the opposite sex, only to find out he/she was actually a member of the opposite sex? Apparently (and this is a random article so it could be wrong) 1 out of 100 people are born as intersex.
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1 in every 100? Chromosomal gender... so you marry a man because outwardly you are female but you get a test done and you are a man by chromosome?
 
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loveme1 said:
1 in every 100? Chromosomal gender... so you marry a man because outwardly you are female but you get a test done and you are a man by chromosome?
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That's one possible type of it. After posting, I did a bit more research and statistics vary depending on whether you're talking about any form of intersex or just certain forms.
Here's a link with more info:
How Common is Intersex? An Explanation of the Stats. – Intersex Campaign for Equality

The thing is, I've never had a baby so I don't know if doctors routinely check one's chromosomes when a baby is born. It seems to me that if there's not outward sign of any condition, then doctors might not check. In that case, lots of people could be intersex and just not know it, skewing the statistics.
 
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Here are the real stats for ya. No where near as common as the op suggest. And these are probably skewed as they come from the intersex society.

Here's what we do know: If you ask experts at medical centers how often a child is born so noticeably atypical in terms of genitalia that a specialist in sex differentiation is called in, the number comes out to about 1 in 1500 to 1 in 2000 births.
Not XX and not XY‎: ‎one in 1,666 births‎
Idiopathic (no discernable medical cause)‎: ‎one in 110,000 births‎
Mixed gonadal dysgenesis‎: ‎no estimate‎
Complete gonadal dysgenesis‎: ‎one in 150,000 births‎
 
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ROSSELLA said:
So, random questions randomly occur to me and this is one of them: What are intersex people expected to do relationship wise? There are a wide-range of variations of this condition. Some are genetically one gender while outwardly appearing to be another (and don't necessarily know they have the condition until something requires them to have some type of test done and surprise!). Some appear to be two genders at once but internally are only one.
I can't imagine how difficult this must be for people. What are they expected to do relationship-wise? Are they supposed to follow their outward gender or chromosomal gender? What if someone thought he/she was female, married a member of the opposite sex, only to find out he/she was actually a member of the opposite sex? Apparently (and this is a random article so it could be wrong) 1 out of 100 people are born as intersex.
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Hi Rosella, Yeah, I think it's incorrect. USA Today said that here in America it 1 in 5000. Another said internationally it's about 1 in 4500.

It almost sounds like what Jesus said.....some are born eunuchs.

Here's what one definition says.

Intersex

Intersex is a set of medical conditions that feature congenital anomaly of the reproductive and sexual system. That is, intersex people are born with "sex chromosomes," external genitalia, or internal reproductive systems that are not considered "standard" for either male or female. The existence of intersexuals shows that there are not just two sexes and that our ways of thinking about sex (trying to force everyone to fit into either the male box or the female box) is socially constructed.

It makes it sound like they aren't male or female. It's beyond my comprehension, but a lady in NY has the first US birth certificate with her gender as Intersex because she's not male and she's not female, although I think she lives as a female.

I haven't read to see if they ever desire to marry. I'll probably look at it more tomorrow. It seems like this has been dealt with in the past through surgery when the child is young. The doctor and the parents made the decision, but times are changing.
 
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`"but times are changing"


Good song - come gather round people from over the land..






















And don't criticize, What you can't understand
 
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ROSSELLA said:
That's one possible type of it. After posting, I did a bit more research and statistics vary depending on whether you're talking about any form of intersex or just certain forms.
Here's a link with more info:
How Common is Intersex? An Explanation of the Stats. – Intersex Campaign for Equality

The thing is, I've never had a baby so I don't know if doctors routinely check one's chromosomes when a baby is born. It seems to me that if there's not outward sign of any condition, then doctors might not check. In that case, lots of people could be intersex and just not know it, skewing the statistics.
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i'm not sure if being told something about chromosomes if you had outward female parts and married a man could change what you naturally did?

I do do see a no gender movement in the world happening... like they are neither male or female apparently.,. And this to me seems like deception..

a lie from the serpent of being a god and then trying to be neither male or female etc...

The people born with both body parts are deformed like those born with extra limbs.. and this is just part of the fall.

It only goes to show how much we should all be daily saying Come My Lord.
 
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I think it's important to distinguish between what God's design is (heterosexual male and female, related but distinct) and what happens as a result of the Fall (medical anomalies and gender-identity confusion, which may occur together in the same person but are not the same thing).

I would suggest that it is not up to any human being to tell a person with such a medical condition how to handle such issues; that is between that person and God. If you can't determine a person's gender, you can't very well tell them who is "safe" to marry. However, you can counsel them according to the biblical model and encourage them to seek God's direction and provision.
 
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ROSSELLA said:
So, random questions randomly occur to me and this is one of them: What are intersex people expected to do relationship wise? There are a wide-range of variations of this condition. Some are genetically one gender while outwardly appearing to be another (and don't necessarily know they have the condition until something requires them to have some type of test done and surprise!). Some appear to be two genders at once but internally are only one.
I can't imagine how difficult this must be for people. What are they expected to do relationship-wise? Are they supposed to follow their outward gender or chromosomal gender? What if someone thought he/she was female, married a member of the opposite sex, only to find out he/she was actually a member of the opposite sex? Apparently (and this is a random article so it could be wrong) 1 out of 100 people are born as intersex.
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God told us that homosexuality is a sin (Leviticus 18:22). That's all we need to know.
 
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