THE MERCY SEAT

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maverich

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I have tried gently to show that the law is gone, but some think, it is alive and well. This going to be my attempt to show you, that the law is gone. If you can refute this, i will be amazed

The Ark of the Covenant 1. no one knows where its at
2. know one knows where Moses is buried.
3 the lid of the Ark called hilasterion in greek or the propitiation in english
4 In the ark are 3 items
A the show bread, mans rejection of Gods provision
B Aaron's rod that budded, mans rejection of God's leadership
C The ten commandments, mans rejection of Gods moral law

On the lid of the ark are 2 cherubs, forming what we know as the mercy seat,
Jesus in Hebrews it is said he is the propitiation or the lid of the ark for us
His is our Mercy, he alone sits in the mercy seat.

If the law is in the Ark, the lid is on the Ark, and Jesus is in the Mercy Seat, how do you get to the Law. You have to push Jesus out of the way.
Even Indiana Jones knew better than to look in the Ark, but some want to so bad, they scream from the mountain top. I want the law.

No one in the bible ever touched the law, and had it work out well for them.

If you choose to remove Jesus from his seat of honor, you then are fallen from Grace. You have fallen into the law. Hence the term backslider. You have given up the PERFECT GIFT!!!! in favor of you.
 

Zen

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I have tried gently to show that the law is gone, but some think, it is alive and well. This going to be my attempt to show you, that the law is gone. If you can refute this, i will be amazed

The Ark of the Covenant 1. no one knows where its at
2. know one knows where Moses is buried.
3 the lid of the Ark called hilasterion in greek or the propitiation in english
4 In the ark are 3 items
A the show bread, mans rejection of Gods provision
B Aaron's rod that budded, mans rejection of God's leadership
C The ten commandments, mans rejection of Gods moral law

On the lid of the ark are 2 cherubs, forming what we know as the mercy seat,
Jesus in Hebrews it is said he is the propitiation or the lid of the ark for us
His is our Mercy, he alone sits in the mercy seat.

If the law is in the Ark, the lid is on the Ark, and Jesus is in the Mercy Seat, how do you get to the Law. You have to push Jesus out of the way.
Even Indiana Jones knew better than to look in the Ark, but some want to so bad, they scream from the mountain top. I want the law.

No one in the bible ever touched the law, and had it work out well for them.

If you choose to remove Jesus from his seat of honor, you then are fallen from Grace. You have fallen into the law. Hence the term backslider. You have given up the PERFECT GIFT!!!! in favor of you.
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Locutus

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Jer 3:16 “It shall be in those days when you are multiplied and increased in the land,” declares the LORD, “they will no longer say, ‘The ark of the covenant of the LORD.’ And it will not come to mind, nor will they remember it, nor will they miss it, nor will it be made again.

Jer 3:18 “In those days the house of Judah will walk with the house of Israel, and they will come together from the land of the north to the land that I gave your fathers as an inheritance.

The true house of Judah and the elect of Israel were being saved and were coming together in the 1st century AD:

James 1:1 James, a bond-servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, To the twelve tribes who are dispersed abroad: Greetings.
 

loveme1

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I have tried gently to show that the law is gone, but some think, it is alive and well. This going to be my attempt to show you, that the law is gone. If you can refute this, i will be amazed

The Ark of the Covenant 1. no one knows where its at
2. know one knows where Moses is buried.
3 the lid of the Ark called hilasterion in greek or the propitiation in english
4 In the ark are 3 items
A the show bread, mans rejection of Gods provision
B Aaron's rod that budded, mans rejection of God's leadership
C The ten commandments, mans rejection of Gods moral law

On the lid of the ark are 2 cherubs, forming what we know as the mercy seat,
Jesus in Hebrews it is said he is the propitiation or the lid of the ark for us
His is our Mercy, he alone sits in the mercy seat.

If the law is in the Ark, the lid is on the Ark, and Jesus is in the Mercy Seat, how do you get to the Law. You have to push Jesus out of the way.
Even Indiana Jones knew better than to look in the Ark, but some want to so bad, they scream from the mountain top. I want the law.

No one in the bible ever touched the law, and had it work out well for them.

If you choose to remove Jesus from his seat of honor, you then are fallen from Grace. You have fallen into the law. Hence the term backslider. You have given up the PERFECT GIFT!!!! in favor of you.

law of Moses is dead and so we are not adulterous in remarrying the Messiah and partaking in the New Covenant through Faith.

One by Faith can be Baptized with the Holy Spirit and can worship and Love GOD with their Holy Spirit.. which is given Graciously to those that believe.

The Commandments of GOD are kept with our liberty.. those that Keep the Commandments and have the Testimony of the Messiah are saints.

If you try to revive the dead husband then you have fallen from grace... you reject the New wine and drink the Old and receive not Salvation.

If you have not this Truth in you then you have not the Holy Spirit... truly no man teaches we that are Baptized because we are anointed.

Now, you can call me all things and tell me im in error... but I have told you this in love for Heavenly Father and the Messiah.

i ask nothing of you but to search the Scriptures and ask the Holy Spirit to come to you as it came freely to me.

i can not always come and witness this to you because time is ticking..,

But if ever you be sat in darkness remember we that have patiently witnessed to you.. being called much and mocked and threatened.. but I care not and forgive you because I too was without understanding... a free gift so no boast.. just a humbled servant sharing Her Masters Truth.


peace to you all.
 

maverich

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law of Moses is dead and so we are not adulterous in remarrying the Messiah and partaking in the New Covenant through Faith.

One by Faith can be Baptized with the Holy Spirit and can worship and Love GOD with their Holy Spirit.. which is given Graciously to those that believe.

The Commandments of GOD are kept with our liberty.. those that Keep the Commandments and have the Testimony of the Messiah are saints.

If you try to revive the dead husband then you have fallen from grace... you reject the New wine and drink the Old and receive not Salvation.

If you have not this Truth in you then you have not the Holy Spirit... truly no man teaches we that are Baptized because we are anointed.

Now, you can call me all things and tell me im in error... but I have told you this in love for Heavenly Father and the Messiah.

i ask nothing of you but to search the Scriptures and ask the Holy Spirit to come to you as it came freely to me.

i can not always come and witness this to you because time is ticking..,

But if ever you be sat in darkness remember we that have patiently witnessed to you.. being called much and mocked and threatened.. but I care not and forgive you because I too was without understanding... a free gift so no boast.. just a humbled servant sharing Her Masters Truth.


peace to you all.[/QUOTE

that is beautiful, eyes that can see and ears that can hear. Open the eyes of our hearts Lord , Open the eyes of heart I want to see you, high and lifted up
bless you child
 
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Hebrews 8:

1 Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens;

2 A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man.

3 For every high priest is ordained to offer gifts and sacrifices: wherefore it is of necessity that this man have somewhat also to offer.

4 For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law:

5 Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.

6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.



We see here in Hebrews that the tabernacle, the priesthood, the implements within the tabernacle were an example and shadow of heavenly things (Heb 8:5).




Exodus 25:

17 And thou shalt make a mercy seat of pure gold: two cubits and a half shall be the length thereof, and a cubit and a half the breadth thereof.

18 And thou shalt make two cherubims of gold, of beaten work shalt thou make them, in the two ends of the mercy seat.

19 And make one cherub on the one end, and the other cherub on the other end: even of the mercy seat shall ye make the cherubims on the two ends thereof.

20 And the cherubims shall stretch forth their wings on high, covering the mercy seat with their wings, and their faces shall look one to another; toward the mercy seat shall the faces of the cherubims be.

21 And thou shalt put the mercy seat above upon the ark; and in the ark thou shalt put the testimony that I shall give thee.

22 And there I will meet with thee, and I will commune with thee from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubims which are upon the ark of the testimony, of all things which I will give thee in commandment unto the children of Israel.



The mercy seat was the place where God would meet with and commune with man:

Numbers 7:89 And when Moses was gone into the tabernacle of the congregation to speak with him, then he heard the voice of one speaking unto him from off the mercy seat that was upon the ark of testimony, from between the two cherubims: and he spake unto him.




Matthew 27:51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent


When the veil of the temple was torn from top to bottom, the most holy place was no longer separated from the holy place in the temple. The most holy place was where the mercy seat was.




Romans 3:

24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation
(Greek hilasterion – same word as "mercyseat" in Heb 9:25) through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.



The OT example of the holy holies (where the mercy seat was housed) was a foreshadowing. Once the priesthood was established, the mercy seat in the holy of holies was open to the High Priest one day a year (Day of Atonement) and that is where God would commune with the high priest.

In our day and time our meeting place to commune with God is in the Lord Jesus Christ.
 

Nehemiah6

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I have tried gently to show that the law is gone,
It will depend on which part of the Law of Moses is "gone". The Ten Commandments are certainly not "gone", and there are four commandments which are still applicable to the Church (Acts 15). The Ten Commandments are now encompassed in the Law of Love, but they are still valid through that Law.

However everything pertaining to the tabernacle, the temple, the Levitical priesthood, the sacrifices, the feasts, the holy days, the new moons, and the sabbaths are no longer applicable. Christ Himself is the reality, and those are just shadows or foreshadowings.
 

maverich

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It will depend on which part of the Law of Moses is "gone". The Ten Commandments are certainly not "gone", and there are four commandments which are still applicable to the Church (Acts 15). The Ten Commandments are now encompassed in the Law of Love, but they are still valid through that Law.

However everything pertaining to the tabernacle, the temple, the Levitical priesthood, the sacrifices, the feasts, the holy days, the new moons, and the sabbaths are no longer applicable. Christ Himself is the reality, and those are just shadows or foreshadowings.
I think acts 15:10 sums up the above

therefore why ye tempt God putting a yoke around the disiples, and or childrens neck that neither you nor your fathers were able to bear