Gods wants for us to be saved, and it is only by salvation through His Grace

[Willie-T]

No, no, no

The cleansing ourselves is NOT first

---edit: Actually, we CANNOT cleanse ourselves

Jesus forgave sins first.
THEN he told them to sin no more.

Absolute truth spoken!

 

[Willie-T]

Repent and Believe.....

A bit backwards, but you're getting there. ☺

 

[Miri]

Is Hebrews 6 false gospel?

Hebrews 6 starts with the word "therefore"

Hebrews is an entire letter to read all at once, the chapters and verses were added for
our benefit.

Go read the proceeding chapters to get it into context, you will see that it is about
spiritual growth.

 

[Seymmour]

Godswants for us to be saved, and it is only by salvation through HisGrace that we may be saved.

One would think that an omnipotent being wouldn't be constrained by anything to "save" anyone if He wanted to. That's pretty much the definition of omnipotence.

S.G.

 

[Nehemiah6]

One would think that an omnipotent being wouldn't be constrained by anything to "save" anyone if He wanted to. That's pretty much the definition of omnipotence.

Even though Christ was omnipotent, He did not compel anyone to believe on Him. Every sinner must freely respond to the Gospel or suffer the consequences. God will force no one to be saved.

 

[FlSnookman7]

One would think that an omnipotent being wouldn't be constrained by anything to "save" anyone if He wanted to. That's pretty much the definition of omnipotence.

S.G.

God is love and true love never, ever forces anything.

 

[SovereignGrace]

Godswants for us to be saved, and it is only by salvation through HisGrace that we may be saved.


Butwe must do certain things to find salvation in Him. We must, forinstance, have first cleansed ourselves of sins we have knowingly andunknowingly committed in the past, so we may stand ready to receiveGod's Word and abide by it, toward loving Him. Hebrews 6 tells usthat once we have cleansed ourselves of such sins, we may stand cleanbefore the Lord and loving Him through His Word without our mindsbeing tainted by such past sins. Man is prone to sin when on earth,so this act of cleansing is necessary.


Hebrews6:1-2 says, “...let us leave the elementary doctrine of Christ andgo on to maturity, not laying again a foundation of repentance fromdead works and of faith toward God,
andof instruction about washings, the laying on of hands, theresurrection of the dead, and eternal judgment.” The doctrine ofChrist involves repentance, so once we have achieved repentance wemay accept the Word of God willfully and love Him accordingly. Similarly, Ezekiel 18:21-23 says, “But if a wicked person turnsaway from all his sins that he has committed and keeps all mystatutes and does what is just and right, he shall surely live; heshall not die. None of the transgressions that he has committed shallbe remembered against him; for the righteousness that he has done heshall live. Have I any pleasure in the death of the wicked, declaresthe Lord GOD, and not rather that he should turn from his way andlive?”


TheWord of God, with its statutes and ordinances, was first given to thechosen people, but as Jesus implies, it is meant for everyone whowould would be willing to come clean and accept and love God thoughHis Word. Jesus in Mark 16:15-16 says, “Go into all the world andproclaim the gospel to the whole creation. Whoever believes and isbaptized will be saved.” This is God's Will, inasmuch as He createdAdam and Eve in His own image and He expected Adam and Eve to abideby His direction. As we all came from Adam and Eve, we all have thesame standing under God, so we all answer to Him. God, therefore mayhave first conveyed His Word on the Chosen, but His Word is notlimited to the Chosen by any means.


Hebrews6 says that having come clean, we may go beyond the stage ofrepentance, and abide by God's Word through Jesus, who had a betterunderstanding and love for God than the scribes and Pharisees of histime and place who only preached God's Word but did not practice it.Fortunately, there were many Jews of Jesus time who were morediscerning and who ended up willingly accepting what Jesus spoke tothem, and some of them became his disciples. And as through Jesus'teachings we once again realize that, as with Adam and Eve, we areall one under God.


Ina sense, Hebrews 6 may be regarded as the next stage toward gainingsalvation through God's Grace.

We are saved by grace through faith and not of ourselves but it is a gift of God. Grace + nothing = salvation.

 

[Johnny_B]

Hebrews 6:1-12 "Therefore let us leave the elementary doctrine of Christ and go on to maturity, not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God,2 and of instruction about washings, the laying on of hands, the resurrection of the dead, and eternal judgment.3 And this we will do if God permits.4 For it is impossible, in the case of those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, and have shared in the Holy Spirit,5 and have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the age to come,6 and then have fallen away, to restore them again to repentance, since they are crucifying once again the Son of God to their own harm and holding him up to contempt.7 For land that has drunk the rain that often falls on it, and produces a crop useful to those for whose sake it is cultivated, receives a blessing from God.8 But if it bears thorns and thistles, it is worthless and near to being cursed, and its end is to be burned.

9 Though we speak in this way, yet in your case, beloved, we feel sure of better things—things that belong to salvation. 10 For God is not unjust so as to overlook your work and the love that you have shown for his name in serving the saints, as you still do.11 And we desire each one of you to show the same earnestness to have the full assurance of hope until the end,12 so that you may not be sluggish, but imitators of those who through faith and patience inherit the promises."

Notice verse 6:5 compared to I Corinthians 12:12-13 "For just as the body is one and has many members, and all the members of the body, though many, are one body, so it is with Christ.13 For in one Spirit we were all baptized into one body—Jews or Greeks, slaves or free—and all were made to drink of one Spirit." For those that beiieve that the Father does not intrude on ones life, here it says we were "made to drink" Ephesians 2:5 "made us alive" I Peter 1:3 "Hehas caused us to be born again" and Jesus says John 3:3 “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.” No human can even see the kingdom of God unless they are born again, then you believe/repent. According to Jesus you cannot believe/repent then be born again, because you cannot see the kingdom until you've been born again.

Notice those in Hebrews tasted, where members of the body are made to drink, they do not taste, they were made to drink. Tasting is an expierance, where drinking is consumtion and has an effect to the body, it sustains life II Peter 1:3-15 has the same message in different words.

"His divine power has granted to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the knowledge of him who called us to his own glory and excellence,4 by which he has granted to us his precious and very great promises, so that through them you may become partakers of the divine nature, having escaped from the corruption that is in the world because of sinful desire.5 For this very reason, make every effort to supplement your faith with virtue, and virtue with knowledge,6 and knowledge with self-control, and self-control with steadfastness, and steadfastness with godliness,7 and godliness with brotherly affection, and brotherly affection with love.8 For if these qualities are yours and are increasing, they keep you from being ineffective or unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.9 For whoever lacks these qualities is so nearsighted that he is blind, having forgotten that he was cleansed from his former sins.10 Therefore, brothers, be all the more diligent to confirm your calling and election, for if you practice these qualities you will never fall.11 For in this way there will be richly provided for you an entrance into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

12 Therefore I intend always to remind you of these qualities, though you know them and are established in the truth that you have.13 I think it right, as long as I am in this body, to stir you up by way of reminder,14 since I know that the putting off of my body will be soon, as our Lord Jesus Christ made clear to me.15 And I will make every effort so that after my departure you may be able at any time to recall these things."

The writter of Hebrews in his warning is being more discriptive, when speaking of those that John discribed in, I John 2:19 "They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us." Also notice Hebrews 6:9 and II Peter 1:12 are asurring those that are in the body.