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    Default THE POWER OF THE TONGUE PROVERBS 18:21

    Death and life are in the power of the tongue…
    Proverbs 18:21
    - AUGUST 5 -
    WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN SAYING?




    Many things in life can cause us to fear—losing our jobs, deadly diseases, terrorist attacks and so on. When these things confront us, we tend to give in to worry and fear, and start talking about our fears.

    Job was no different. He constantly feared that God would punish him and his family because he kept thinking that his sons had sinned against God. He would get up early in the morning to offer burnt sacrifices, saying, “It may be that my sons have sinned and cursed God in their hearts.” And the Bible tells us that he did this “regularly”. (Job 1:5)

    So Job kept confessing the sins of his sons and fearing that something terrible would happen to him and his family. In fact, his sin-consciousness didn’t just produce fear, the Bible tells us that he “greatly feared”. (Job 3:25)

    It is important that we understand that it was Job’s sin-consciousness that opened the door to Satan. His preoccupation with sins that his family may have committed gave Satan the opportunity to bring death and destruction into his life. God had a hedge of protection around Job. But when he started being sin-conscious and having a fearful expectation of judgment, the hedge was removed and Satan could attack
    him. (Job 1:9–12)

    My friend, today, if you have sinned, don’t say, “I have failed again. I deserve to be punished by God.” Know that you already have forgiveness of sins because Jesus was punished and condemned in your place! (Ephesians 1:7) So say, “I am the righteousness of God in Christ. Jesus, You are my holiness and perfection.” (1 Corinthians 1:30; 2 Corinthians 5:21)

    We must be mindful of what we believe and say regularly because “death and life are in the power of the tongue”. So when you hear of a deadly virus taking many lives, don’t say, “I’m next because I have not been a good Christian!” Instead, say, “Jesus, You are my righteousness and protection. Surely You shall deliver me from the snare of the fowler and from the perilous pestilence!” (Psalm 91:3)

    Beloved, such believing and confessing not only please God, but they also shut the door on Satan so that he cannot make any inroad into your life!


    "Destined To Reign Devotional" For August 5th by Pastor Joseph Prince

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    Quote Originally Posted by joaniemarie View Post
    It is important that we understand that it was Job’s sin-consciousness that opened the door to Satan. His preoccupation with sins that his family may have committed gave Satan the opportunity to bring death and destruction into his life. God had a hedge of protection around Job. But when he started being sin-conscious and having a fearful expectation of judgment, the hedge was removed and Satan could attack
    him. (Job 1:9–12)
    This is not true.

    Bible clearly says that God was proud of Job and was showing him to satan as somebody who is reliable. So the opposite of what you say is true. His fear of sin and his fear of God was the reason God loved him so much.

    Also, Job did not open any door to Satan, God did. Read the story.
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    This was very true in my life as a believer for many years too. And actually., the things I greatly feared tended to come upon me for a lot of years. And ultimately the losses were very great. We are told not to worry for a reason. Fear is the opposite of faith. And it is a spirit that God has not given us. God has not given us the spirit of fear BUT of power and love and a sound mind. Fear has nothing to do with what God gives us. Fear is an actual spirit.

    This is an excellent devotional that brings up the long held interpretation of what Job did and didn't do. How we can learn from Job's mistakes as well as learning why even though Job made wrong choices, the Bible calls him blameless, upright, fearing God and turning away from evil. Job was not perfect and he still had much to learn about who God is and what God requires. Just like all the old testament saints. We are supposed to learn how they were not perfect and still God delivered them out out their tribulations because He loves them (and us) .



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    Quote Originally Posted by joaniemarie View Post
    This was very true in my life as a believer for many years too. And actually., the things I greatly feared tended to come upon me for a lot of years. And ultimately the losses were very great. We are told not to worry for a reason. Fear is the opposite of faith. And it is a spirit that God has not given us. God has not given us the spirit of fear BUT of power and love and a sound mind. Fear has nothing to do with what God gives us. Fear is an actual spirit.

    This is an excellent devotional that brings up the long held interpretation of what Job did and didn't do. How we can learn from Job's mistakes as well as learning why even though Job made wrong choices, the Bible calls him blameless, upright, fearing God and turning away from evil. Job was not perfect and he still had much to learn about who God is and what God requires. Just like all the old testament saints. We are supposed to learn how they were not perfect and still God delivered them out out their tribulations because He loves them (and us) .


    I am sorry but you are mixing it like apples and oranges...

    Fear can be good or bad, love can be good or bad.

    Depends on the context... what do you fear and what do you love. Love to sin is bad, fear of sin is good, for example.

    Beware of wrong generalization. What you call Job's mistake, God calls "my servant Job who is blameless"... so one of you is wrong.
    Do not be worried about many things - only one thing is needed (Lk 10:41-42).

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    Quote Originally Posted by trofimus View Post
    This is not true.

    Bible clearly says that God was proud of Job and was showing him to satan as somebody who is reliable. So the opposite of what you say is true. His fear of sin and his fear of God was the reason God loved him so much.

    Also, Job did not open any door to Satan, God did. Read the story.


    It's understandable why you read it that way because I and many others did and many still do. But I've since changed my mind on how I look at Job. God did not give Job over to the devil. No more than He gives us over to fear. We chose to fear instead of believe and have faith. God allows us to not be in agreement with Him. And we suffer due to our own choices. God is not in the habit if giving us over to the enemy.

    When Adam and Eve came on the scene, they were given the earth to tend and keep. But when they were tempted with evil, they forfeited their place and gave it to satan. It took Jesus to get all that was lost back and then some. So the people on the earth were already living in a cursed sin filled world under satan's power no longer under the care of man who God created in His image. Think about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trofimus View Post
    I am sorry but you are mixing it like apples and oranges...

    Fear can be good or bad, love can be good or bad.

    Depends on the context... what do you fear and what do you love. Love to sin is bad, fear of sin is good, for example.

    Beware of wrong generalization. What you call Job's mistake, God calls "my servant Job who is blameless"... so one of you is wrong.



    God is not telling us to call good=evil nor is He telling us to call evil=good. Why Christians have been taught to do this is not a good thing. It's a religious thing. A way for man to figure out why life stinks and how God can be sovereign and loving at the same time. But man's ways are not God's ways.

    God can take the evil in this fallen world and make good come out of what was meant for evil. But God does not cause evil. God sent His Son to defeat evil and sin. He is not going to be wacky like the Greek gods were on Mt.Olympus. That is man's idea of God. If we want to see God., we are to look at Jesus and how He lived and moved here. He is the very expression of the Father. And we are told to look at Jesus if we want to see the Father.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joaniemarie View Post

    It's understandable why you read it that way because I and many others did and many still do. But I've since changed my mind on how I look at Job. God did not give Job over to the devil. No more than He gives us over to fear. We chose to fear instead of believe and have faith. God allows us to not be in agreement with Him. And we suffer due to our own choices. God is not in the habit if giving us over to the enemy.

    When Adam and Eve came on the scene, they were given the earth to tend and keep. But when they were tempted with evil, they forfeited their place and gave it to satan. It took Jesus to get all that was lost back and then some. So the people on the earth were already living in a cursed sin filled world under satan's power no longer under the care of man who God created in His image. Think about it.
    I think you are trying to see what your pastor Prince told you to see in the Bible.
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    Amen, sister.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joaniemarie View Post
    We must be mindful of what we believe and say regularly because “death and life are in the power of the tongue”. So when you hear of a deadly virus taking many lives, don’t say, “I’m next because I have not been a good Christian!” Instead, say, “Jesus, You are my righteousness and protection. Surely You shall deliver me from the snare of the fowler and from the perilous pestilence!” (Psalm 91:3)
    Quite often the opinions posted here don't lend themselves well to confirmation or refutation beyond reasonable doubt.
    But the claim made in the above quoted Psalm we can actually put to the test in a experiment to find out whether its author was right or wrong.
    Even better, the recorded history of pathogens and its effects on people gives us a vast database to sift through.
    For example: we can ask ourselves the question; did the Bubonic plague that killed tens of millions of people in the 14th century bypass the virtuous and the pious? (It didn't.) When the smallpox virus killed hundreds of millions of people in the 20th century, were the local authorities baffled that amid all this horrific suffering and death the most religiously devoted individuals miraculously were left unscathed? (They weren't.)

    I also wonder how many people are willing to put their faith to the test by exposing themselves willingly to a disease-causing microorganism, or venom, convinced that they will receive a divine inoculation.

    The one person that comes to mind is the late pastor Jamie Coots who had a reality show (who doesn't nowadays?) called "Snake Salvation". In 2014 pastor Coots was gathered to God after being bitten for the ninth time by a rattlesnake he was handling. So perhaps, the first eight times he did receive a celestial intervention.
    Who can tell? God's ways (and those of some of his followers) are mysterious.

    But, let's rejoice! For once we can say with near certainty that whoever authored Psalm 91:3 was in error.

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    I know the scripture where it says there is life and death in the tongue, but it really means that the power lies in what you or someone else HEARS. Faith comes by what we hear - and so does fear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trofimus View Post
    I think you are trying to see what your pastor Prince told you to see in the Bible.


    If I was only repeating and trying to see what someone else sees and only repeating what someone else believes., I would not be able to make my own opinions and beliefs come forward at all in these posts. I share hundreds of words here on CC in many different threads that have nothing to do with Pastor Joseph Prince.

    I think you are not able to answer the topics here and are copping out by trying to dismiss me as someone who doesn't speak her own mind. And that's to your shame, not mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joidevivre View Post
    I know the scripture where it says there is life and death in the tongue, but it really means that the power lies in what you or someone else HEARS. Faith comes by what we hear - and so does fear.


    I strongly disagree for many reasons and here's why. Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. What we say most often is what we believe inside. Words do matter and do have power to heal or to curse. People have been doing it for years. That is just the way of things. If you steer a horse you do so by the bit in his mouth. I'm sure you're familiar with the Bible verses... Giant ships are steered using the rudder., horses are controlled using the bit in their mouths.

    He who masters his tongue is wise...

    We hear and are exposed to many things. Many believers are attacked by the enemy and many will believe the condemnation thrown at them and start repeating how rotten and lousy and sinful they are. While other believers have learned the truth and when they are attacked they don't believe the lies of condemnation because they believe the truth that Jesus is their righteousness and repeat that truth daily and cement that truth in their minds and hearts.

    What we expose ourselves to hear and take in on a consistent basis we will start believing and start saying. When we begin repeating the lies ourselves we are cementing them in our minds and hearts to our own detriment.

    Hearing and speaking both have their place but eventually., what we believe will come out of our mouths. Some for cursing some for blessing.



    There is so much to this matter of the tongue in the Bible

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    Quote Originally Posted by joaniemarie View Post


    I think you are not able to answer the topics here and are copping out by trying to dismiss me as someone who doesn't speak her own mind. And that's to your shame, not mine.
    I am not sure what kind of answer do you want. Just read the book of Job without Prince´s opinion. And see it is not so at all... I do not know what else I can tell.

    I can just copy and paste the book of Job, but I am not sure it is meaningful, who wants it, can check it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joaniemarie View Post
    I think you are not able to answer the topics here and are copping out by trying to dismiss me as someone who doesn't speak her own mind. And that's to your shame, not mine.
    I believe you are confusing reverential fear of the Lord in respecting Him so as to not to sin with the fear of sinning, because Job's reverential fear of the Lord to not to sin is not the same as your fear of sinning.

    I believe your experience is real and tangible and I can relate, but you cannot refer to Job as an example when God pointed Job out from among the sons of God TWICE in showing him off to Satan.

    And TWICE, Satan had to have God's permission for Satan to do something to Job which shows that your fear of sinning had nothing to do with Job's way of life or his godly mentality at all.

    So do not read your experience into Job's life when you know God has nothing to boast about regarding you to Satan, ( except in the Lord Jesus Christ being in you ).

    Again, I understand how fear of sin can bring in sin. I can get pre occupied about not sinning that I am thinking about it when I should be thinking about something else.. and I need the Lord's help to do even that. So I can relate to what you are saying about fear of sinning in regards to your life, but Job comes nowhere near that topic at all, especially when your point rests on Job giving sacrifices for sins that Job had suspect that his sons had committed in heart. That's not Job's fear but Job's love for his sons in being presented before the Lord as acceptable in His sight.

    It is because of Jesus Christ in us... sin has no dominion over us and He will overcome habitual sins as well as keeping us from them when we trust Him as our personal Good Shepherd to lead us in thoughts and actions as we walk through this valley of death with Him for He is in us and is with us always.

    1 John 3:3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.....8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

    2 Timothy 4:18 And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve me unto his heavenly kingdom: to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Joidevivre View Post
    I know the scripture where it says there is life and death in the tongue, but it really means that the power lies in what you or someone else HEARS. Faith comes by what we hear - and so does fear.
    Matthew 12:35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

    Quote Originally Posted by joaniemarie View Post


    I strongly disagree for many reasons and here's why. Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. What we say most often is what we believe inside. Words do matter and do have power to heal or to curse. People have been doing it for years. That is just the way of things. If you steer a horse you do so by the bit in his mouth. I'm sure you're familiar with the Bible verses... Giant ships are steered using the rudder., horses are controlled using the bit in their mouths.

    He who masters his tongue is wise...
    James 3:3 Behold, we put bits in the horses' mouths, that they may obey us; and we turn about their whole body. 4 Behold also the ships, which though they be so great, and are driven of fierce winds, yet are they turned about with a very small helm, whithersoever the governor listeth. 5 Even so the tongue is a little member, and boasteth great things. Behold, how great a matter a little fire kindleth!6 And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell. 7 For every kind of beasts, and of birds, and of serpents, and of things in the sea, is tamed, and hath been tamed of mankind: 8 But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.9 Therewith bless we God, even the Father; and therewith curse we men, which are made after the similitude of God. 10 Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be.11 Doth a fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and bitter? 12 Can the fig tree, my brethren, bear olive berries? either a vine, figs? so can no fountain both yield salt water and fresh. 13 Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him shew out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom. 14 But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth. 15 This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish. 16 For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work. 17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.18 And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace.

    So how can man tame the tongue when it is written that no man can tame the tongue?

    Luke 18:27 And he said, The things which are impossible with men are possible with God.

    Therefore believers wishing their tongue to be tamed from cursing, should turn to the Lord Jesus Christ at that throne of grace to do His work in them to tame that tongue and especially in dealing with the heart which causes that tongue to curse.

    Psalm 19:12 Who can understand his errors? cleanse thou me from secret faults. 13 Keep back thy servant also from presumptuous sins; let them not have dominion over me: then shall I be upright, and I shall be innocent from the great transgression.14 Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O Lord, my strength, and my redeemer.

    1 John 3:3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.....8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

    2 Timothy 4:18 And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve me unto his heavenly kingdom: to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.

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    Joaniemarie (Prince) : It is important that we understand that it was Job’s sin-consciousness that opened the door to Satan. His preoccupation with sins that his family may have committed gave Satan the opportunity to bring death and destruction into his life. God had a hedge of protection around Job. But when he started being sin-conscious and having a fearful expectation of judgment, the hedge was removed and Satan could attack
    him. (Job 1:9–12)
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    Which bible you use to believe such a statement?

    "And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, all that he has is in your power; only upon himself put not forth your hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD. "Job 1,12



    I suppose the text is clear!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfwint View Post
    Joaniemarie (Prince) : It is important that we understand that it was Job’s sin-consciousness that opened the door to Satan. His preoccupation with sins that his family may have committed gave Satan the opportunity to bring death and destruction into his life. God had a hedge of protection around Job. But when he started being sin-conscious and having a fearful expectation of judgment, the hedge was removed and Satan could attack
    him. (Job 1:9–12)
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    Which bible you use to believe such a statement?

    "And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, all that he has is in your power; only upon himself put not forth your hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD. "Job 1,12



    I suppose the text is clear!
    Bingo!!!! The nonsense of joaniemarie/prince/G7 is purely anti-biblical mysticism (and a false antinomian gospel as well as seen in other posts.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by preacher4truth View Post
    Bingo!!!! The nonsense of joaniemarie/prince/G7 is purely anti-biblical mysticism (and a false antinomian gospel as well as seen in other posts.)
    I had to look up antinomian and I must say guilty as charged. I am happy to be antinomian, if this is the correct definition that I found: "In Christianity, an antinomian is one who takes the principle of salvation by faith and divine grace to the point of asserting that the saved are not bound to follow the Law of Moses."

    That is exactly what the New Covenant is all about. As for the OP, the truth is that words have a lot of meaning, with the mouth we curse and bless.
    I have personal experience of cussing and fussing in my mind, constant negativity and it caused depression. Since I learned by the Grace of God to bless, rejoice in good AND bad, my life has been more pleasant. We are not saying that if you think and speak positive that life will be perfect, but I would rather be positive when facing trouble, than negative when facing trouble.

    If it is spiritual things, the name of Jesus WILL always overcome, demons are afraid and tremble at the name of Jesus. In that area we are guaranteed victory, each and everytime.

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    There are a few areas where I disagree with JP. This is one of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bogadile View Post
    I had to look up antinomian and I must say guilty as charged.
    A premature response above. You've just looked it up and are all in based on a cursory and erroneous definition. Interesting and quite gullible of you.

    I am happy to be antinomian, if this is the correct definition that I found: "In Christianity, an antinomian is one who takes the principle of salvation by faith and divine grace to the point of asserting that the saved are not bound to follow the Law of Moses."
    No, it's not a correct definition and therefore doesn't give the true sense of antinomianism. The true sense can be seen in Matthew 7:23 and has nothing to do with following the law of Moses as much as it has to do with license to sin/practicing sin.
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