Another requirement for salvation; Not that simple
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Revelation 22
12And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. 13I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
14Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. 15For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
12And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. 13I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
14Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. 15For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
You're not the earner, and you're not believing the Messiah, thus you labor and haven't entered into His rest.
Salvation is a gift, not a reward. It is not earned by works, it is given by grace. Therefore you are in error and are offending the Gospel of Christ, and the Christ of the Gospel with your false gospel.
Salvation is a gift, not a reward. It is not earned by works, it is given by grace. Therefore you are in error and are offending the Gospel of Christ, and the Christ of the Gospel with your false gospel.
I'm talking to you according to your false gospel.
Salvation isn't a reward, it's a gift. If it were a reward, there would be no need for the cross, but go ahead, twist some more truth and twist that truth along with it as you're doing with Revelation.
It's unbelievable those of your ilk believe they are going to earn and be rewarded with eternal life. Talk about self deception.
Salvation isn't a reward, it's a gift. If it were a reward, there would be no need for the cross, but go ahead, twist some more truth and twist that truth along with it as you're doing with Revelation.
It's unbelievable those of your ilk believe they are going to earn and be rewarded with eternal life. Talk about self deception.
Ephesians 2
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9Not of works, lest any man should boast. 10For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
all of the chapter should be read but this part is vital.. you are saved by grace unto good works.. that GOD ordained we should walk in....
By the blood of our Christ we make peace with GOD we are reconciled... and walk the path of righteousness following the Good Shepherd.
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9Not of works, lest any man should boast. 10For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
all of the chapter should be read but this part is vital.. you are saved by grace unto good works.. that GOD ordained we should walk in....
By the blood of our Christ we make peace with GOD we are reconciled... and walk the path of righteousness following the Good Shepherd.
Revelation 22
And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand. 11He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
12And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. 13I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
14Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. 15For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
pride is at work..
And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand. 11He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
12And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. 13I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
14Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. 15For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
pride is at work..
You are confusing the gift of eternal life with rewards. Your argument is smoke and mirrors/salvation by works. We are saved through faith and rewarded by works. Saved by grace through faith, not works (Ephesians 2:8,9). Eternal life is not a reward that we work for and earn. The gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord (Romans 6:23) and is not by works.
Ephesians 2:8,9 is not a riddle.
It's not about must serve the Messiah to become saved but will serve the Messiah IF we truly are saved. John 10:27 - My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me (not some of them do and some of them don't). 28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. Without believing in Him we are condemned.. (John 3:18).
Again, it's not about must or else but will. We have to BELIEVE IN HIM for salvation and those who truly are born of God love and obey Him BECAUSE they are saved and not in order to become saved. Without faith it's impossible to please God no matter how much so called love and obedience that someone attempts to conjure up through the flesh.
Romans 3:24 - being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, 25 whom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood, through faith, to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance God had passed over the sins that were previously committed, 26 to demonstrate at the present time His righteousness, that He might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.
Ephesians 2:8,9 is not a riddle.
It's not about must serve the Messiah to become saved but will serve the Messiah IF we truly are saved. John 10:27 - My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me (not some of them do and some of them don't). 28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. Without believing in Him we are condemned.. (John 3:18).
Again, it's not about must or else but will. We have to BELIEVE IN HIM for salvation and those who truly are born of God love and obey Him BECAUSE they are saved and not in order to become saved. Without faith it's impossible to please God no matter how much so called love and obedience that someone attempts to conjure up through the flesh.
Romans 3:24 - being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, 25 whom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood, through faith, to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance God had passed over the sins that were previously committed, 26 to demonstrate at the present time His righteousness, that He might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.
*Notice "reward" (not eternal life) is connected with "according as his work shall be." Now read 1 Corinthians 3:13 - each one's work will become clear; for the Day will declare it, because it will be revealed by fire; and the fire will test each one's work, of what sort it is. 14 If anyone's work which he has built on it endures, he will receive a reward. 15 If anyone's work is burned, he will suffer loss; (of reward) but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire.
"Do His commandments" does not earn us eternal life, but it is evidence that we have been granted eternal life through faith and are born of God. Some translations read, "Blessed are those who wash their robes," which symbolizes those who have been forgiven of their sins through the blood of the Lamb (Romans 3:24-26). *Also see Revelation 7:14.
Those who by faith that have trusted in Christ as the ALL-sufficient means of their salvation have received Christ's imputed righteousness (Romans 4:4-6; Philippians 3:9). Unbelievers are all in the same boat with those in Revelation 22:15.
"Do His commandments" does not earn us eternal life, but it is evidence that we have been granted eternal life through faith and are born of God. Some translations read, "Blessed are those who wash their robes," which symbolizes those who have been forgiven of their sins through the blood of the Lamb (Romans 3:24-26). *Also see Revelation 7:14.
Those who by faith that have trusted in Christ as the ALL-sufficient means of their salvation have received Christ's imputed righteousness (Romans 4:4-6; Philippians 3:9). Unbelievers are all in the same boat with those in Revelation 22:15.
Hell simply means the common grave; however those who pursue this track are saying that God created Adam and Eve with malicious intent if he allowed this Hell you talk about, or even as he is the creator of everything, God himself created this place of torture....God so loved the world (Mankind) etc....No fiery hell, just a reference to the destruction of death, Satan and his angels as spoken of in Revelation.
Ok Jacson, you figured out that we are not saved yet and that God calls those things that be not as though they are" "For we are saves if we hold the beginning of our confidence steadfast until the end."
Have you also figured out that people in hell or the paradise next to hell where the thief went, are not eternally lost but waiting judgment, because they have not overcome the world to rule with Christ. "The rest of the dead were not raised until the thousand years were fulfilled. "The nations of the saved will walk in the light of the city."
Have you also figured out that people in hell or the paradise next to hell where the thief went, are not eternally lost but waiting judgment, because they have not overcome the world to rule with Christ. "The rest of the dead were not raised until the thousand years were fulfilled. "The nations of the saved will walk in the light of the city."
I believe If we faithful to the point death, we Will save.
rev 2
10 Do not be afraid of what you are about to suffer. I tell you, the devil will put some of you in prison to test you, and you will suffer persecution for ten days. Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you life as your victor’s crown.
but repent after death not bring you to heaven
Luke 16
[h=3]The Rich Man and Lazarus[/h]19 “There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. 20 At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores 21 and longing to eat what fell from the rich man’s table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores.
22 “The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. 23 In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. 24 So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham,have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’
25 “But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. 26 And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been set in place, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.’
27 “He answered, ‘Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my family,28 for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’
29 “Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.’
30 “‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’
31 “He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’”
rev 2
10 Do not be afraid of what you are about to suffer. I tell you, the devil will put some of you in prison to test you, and you will suffer persecution for ten days. Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you life as your victor’s crown.
but repent after death not bring you to heaven
Luke 16
[h=3]The Rich Man and Lazarus[/h]19 “There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. 20 At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores 21 and longing to eat what fell from the rich man’s table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores.
22 “The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. 23 In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. 24 So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham,have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’
25 “But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. 26 And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been set in place, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.’
27 “He answered, ‘Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my family,28 for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’
29 “Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.’
30 “‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’
31 “He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’”