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    Quote Originally Posted by Nehemiah6 View Post
    Well you keep insisting that this is condemnation, but it is not necessarily so. Christians have no choice except to recognize various groups of other Christians by their doctrines, so a "label" must be applied, whether it is neutral or pejorative. For evangelical Christians, Protestants are those who came out of the RCC for good reasons. For Catholics, Protestants are heretics.

    So it is with understanding Bible prophecy. Some claim that everything in Revelation was already fulfilled by 70 AD. That is absurd. Those are the Preterists.

    Others claim that everything in Revelation has been fulfilled (or is being fulfilled) during Church history. That is unrealistic. Those are the Historicists.

    Still others believe that while the first five seals of Revelation have already been opened, the 6th and 7th seal judgments are yet future. This matches Scripture as well as reality. These are the Futurists.
    Please note that I did not say everyone.
    I said it seems that SOME.
    If they thought it would not get them banned, they would use more harsh words.

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    Originally Posted by Nehemiah6 Well you keep insisting that this is condemnation, but it is not necessarily so. Christians have no choice except to recognize various groups of other Christians by their doctrines, so a "label" must be applied, whether it is neutral or pejorative. For evangelical Christians, Protestants are those who came out of the RCC for good reasons. For Catholics, Protestants are heretics.

    So it is with understanding Bible prophecy. Some claim that everything in Revelation was already fulfilled by 70 AD. That is absurd. Those are the Preterists.

    Others claim that everything in Revelation has been fulfilled (or is being fulfilled) during Church history. That is unrealistic. Those are the Historicists.

    Still others believe that while the first five seals of Revelation have already been opened, the 6th and 7th seal judgments are yet future. This matches Scripture as well as reality. These are the Futurists
    You've nearly turned me into a futurist ,by definition. But you would be wrong. And your position is only partly futurist. It shows how you cannot fix people into a definition. The real futurist believes the seals are yet to be opened. And they split the sevens in Daniel, misinterpret Matt 24, and produce a non-Biblical Great Tribulation and a mythical Millennium,
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    Quote Originally Posted by valiant View Post
    You've nearly turned me into a futurist ,by definition. But you would be wrong. And your position is only partly futurist. It shows how you cannot fix people into a definition. The real futurist believes the seals are yet to be opened. And they split the sevens in Daniel, misinterpret Matt 24, and produce a non-Biblical Great Tribulation and a mythical Millennium,
    I have gone through all of these camps... If fact when someone ask me, I refer to my self as run of the Mil... I ask my Dad one time what camp he was in, and I will never forget his answer, he said I am the forgotten camp, I'm a PanMillennialist, I said Dad I never heard of that one before... He said whatever is going to happen, will happen, just as God said it would happen and God is in charge of it all and it will all pan out in the end... Another friend of mine who has been a preacher over 60 years made this comment, Christian want to argue over the book of Revelation and they involve themselves in heated arguments, whereas one camp thinks they are right and the other camp is wrong... They miss the big picture!... In a nutshell to summarize the book of Revelation... SATAN is defeated!... And JESUS WINS!... Brother Glen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Persuaded View Post
    But how do you put a label on someone you do not know or only read or hear a small portion of what they teach?
    I believe any label is misleading and should not be used.
    i believe food should just be called "food". not "canned beans" or "canned peasoup". just "food" labels are bad.

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