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    Revelation 12:7-9New International Version (NIV)

    7 Then war broke out in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. 8 But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. 9 The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.


    Any thoughts on Michael? Who is he? He seems to have a great role in things but not really mentioned much

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    The scriptures indicates Michael as the protector of Israel & leader of Gods army
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    Romans 10:13 - For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
    Acts 3:19 - Repent therefore and turn to God, so that your sins may be blotted out, in order that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord.
    Ephesians 6:11 - Put on the whole armor of God, so that you can stand firm against the schemes of the devil.

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    in Daniel chapter 10, the angel speaking to Daniel says he was held up by the "prince of Persia" for 21 days, until "behold! Michael, one of the chief princes came to help" ((v. 13)).

    then, in verse 21, that angel says Yet there is no one who stands firmly with me against these forces ((the "
    princes" of Persia and Greece)) except Michael your prince.

    the word translated "p
    rince" in English doesn't necessarily mean what humans call a "prince" - not a royal sovereign over a territory. it certainly denotes authority and power, but the original meaning & usage in the context of when Daniel was written isn't exactly understood and wasn't confined to what we think of in terms of an human monarchical court system.

    what people generally infer from this is that there are angels "
    assigned" to kingdoms of earth by God and given power and authority, and that likewise some of Satan's angels are similarly associated with nations, with the power and authority of the Evil One. from the statement that Michael is Daniel's "prince" in particular, it is inferred that Michael is the angel with charge over Israel - because Daniel himself is an Israelite.

    this is at least, the teaching i've heard about it, from a couple different reformed preachers, who explained to me the view that various theologians held. i can't think of a list of sources to give you but i hope i've given enough of a synopsis that anyone who wanted to research has enough search strings to do so.

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    of course if you ask a JW you're going to get a much different answer!!

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    He is archangel, that means a leader of angels.

    "But Michael, the archangel, when contending with the devil and arguing about the body of Moses..."
    Ju 1:9

    He is not mentioned much because angels are not too relevant to us, now. God is. Angels are servants of those who are sons of God.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gdyloves View Post
    Revelation 12:7-9New International Version (NIV)

    7 Then war broke out in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. 8 But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. 9 The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.


    Any thoughts on Michael? Who is he? He seems to have a great role in things but not really mentioned much
    There are only two mentions of Michael (Hebrew Mikael) the Archangel, here and in Jude 1:9. However, the fact that Michael and Gabriel are mentioned in Scripture means that they are significant to God.

    Archangels are apparently the chiefest of angels, and so Michael is the one who leads the holy angels against Satan (the chiefest evil angel) and his army of evil angels. We need to be cognizant that on both sides there are countless angels, however the holy angels outnumber the evil ones. Also on both sides there are hierarchies of angels, designated as thrones, dominions, principalities, powers, rulers of the darkness of this world (for the evil ones), and spirit or spiritual wickedness in high places. We also see from Scripture that evil angels have been given authority by Satan over specific countries, and direct their affairs from behind the scenes.

    The errors of some cults are (1) equating Michael with Christ, (2) making Christ the brother Satan, and (3) making Michael the Restrainer of Satan, rather than the Holy Spirit. Some may not even be aware of this but Michael has become "Saint Michael" for the Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox churches. However, there is no way that any angel can become a saint, since salvation is not offered to angels and the saints are the ones who have received the gift of the Holy Ghost (and have thus been sanctified).

    On earth it is God alone who can restrain Satan, and that is why Jude tells us that even Michael the Archangel dared not bring "railing accusation" against the devil, but instead said "the LORD rebuke thee". At the same time the Lord empowers and delegates Michael before the Tribulation to lead the army of holy angels against Satan and his angels, and as a result they are cast down to earth. See Revelation 12.

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    By any chance do you know davidrosen?




    Quote Originally Posted by gdyloves View Post
    Revelation 12:7-9New International Version (NIV)

    7 Then war broke out in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. 8 But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. 9 The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.


    Any thoughts on Michael? Who is he? He seems to have a great role in things but not really mentioned much
    Hebrews 13:5 .) Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.
    6 .) So that we may boldly say, The Lord is my helper, and I will not fear what man shall do unto me.

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