Who is greater Abraham or God?
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This is how they deceive people into believing Christ is a creature, not YHWH of the OT. It moves from this to salvation by works.
His thread (or comments, can't recall which) rejecting eternal hell is furthering his indoctrination by the late Charles Taze Russell. (He was a crook by the way, and lied about the translation of the NWT, all documented, of which watchtower now lies about and says it is all a conspiracy)
I'd rather be under grace and true conversion than going to a windowless building, under control of watchtower as to how I interpret Scripture, and pounding doors to hand out copies of Awake for any change I can gather.
His thread (or comments, can't recall which) rejecting eternal hell is furthering his indoctrination by the late Charles Taze Russell. (He was a crook by the way, and lied about the translation of the NWT, all documented, of which watchtower now lies about and says it is all a conspiracy)
I'd rather be under grace and true conversion than going to a windowless building, under control of watchtower as to how I interpret Scripture, and pounding doors to hand out copies of Awake for any change I can gather.
If you will stop using their own translation of the Bible, you will have a huge problem with staying to be a JW.
Their closed view is supported by their closed translation and closed doctrines of the Watch Tower magazine. When you get over these sources, you are practically out of their doctrines too.
Thats why they are so few and inactive in any public discussion or forum.. even if they sometimes try, they leave very soon, because they have no arguments when they cant use their translation and magazines as authoritative to others.
Their closed view is supported by their closed translation and closed doctrines of the Watch Tower magazine. When you get over these sources, you are practically out of their doctrines too.
Thats why they are so few and inactive in any public discussion or forum.. even if they sometimes try, they leave very soon, because they have no arguments when they cant use their translation and magazines as authoritative to others.
This isn't true, this is not why you're here. Your posts speak otherwise as to your intent and it isn't merely to chat, it is to being in the false gospel of the watchtower.
No, sorry, you don't get the last word, so that isn't that.
Here is what it is: No true converted person here has "a religion", and your remark is veiled watchtower ridicule. People here, truly converted, have the true Gospel and the true Christ not the false gospel and false Christ of watchtower. Now, that's that.
We're being Christian by exposing a deceived wolf.
No, sorry, you don't get the last word, so that isn't that.
Here is what it is: No true converted person here has "a religion", and your remark is veiled watchtower ridicule. People here, truly converted, have the true Gospel and the true Christ not the false gospel and false Christ of watchtower. Now, that's that.
We're being Christian by exposing a deceived wolf.
I really doubt that you want to examine Abraham offering his son and Jehovah God offering His Son. You did notice in the narrative that God provided a substitutionary offering for Abraham? That is precisely what Jehovah God did when He offered Christ on the cross of Calvary.
What are you going to do if you are not accounted into the 144,000?
For the cause of Christ
Roger
What are you going to do if you are not accounted into the 144,000?
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Abraham was typified as the father as a metaphor of many nations or what we call sects/denominations the new name. He formally was named Abram. But in respect to his fleshly seeds it represented the one new nation (Jewish) that God would use in parables using that seen the temporal to give us his interpretation of that not seen the eternal … the faith principle (2 Corinthians 4:18)
When we hear phrases like… “the bosom of Abraham” we know he is speaking of the invisible presence of our Father in heaven.The True Father of many nations.
He used Abraham in a historically true parable but the flesh of Abraham was not different then the flesh of Rehab the prostitute.
Heb 11:18 Of whom it was said, That in Isaac shall thy seed be called: Accounting that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead; from whence also he received him in a figure.(parable)
3850 parabole {par-ab-ol-ay'}
from 3846; TDNT - 5:744,773; n f
AV - parable 46, figure 2, comparison 1, proverb 1; 50
1) a placing of one thing by the side of another, juxtaposition, as of ships in battle 2) metaph. 2a) a comparing, comparison of one thing with another, likeness, similitude 2b) an example by which a doctrine or precept is illustrated 2c) a narrative, fictitious but agreeable to the laws and usages of human life, by which either the duties of men or the things of God, particularly the nature and history of God's kingdom are figuratively portrayed 2d) a parable: an earthly story with a heavenly meaning 3) a pithy and instructive saying, involving some likeness or comparison and having preceptive or admonitory force 3a) an aphorism, a maxim 4) a proverb 5) an act by which one exposes himself or his possessions to danger, a venture, a risk
The apostate Jews, like the Catholics did one of the unthinkable doctrines of men . The Jews using the flesh of Abraham to usurp the authority of our Father in heaven just as the Catholics used Peter as if they were exercising a faith towards our Father in heaven . Even though Christ informed them not to call men fathers on earth in that way for one is our Father in heaven . Not in earthly Israel or Rome
Mat 3:9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.
The bride of Christ the church is made up of many lively stone of all the nations of this world that make up the one spiritual house or temple of God.
The word Abraham is used in many parables to help us understand what it means to walk by faith (the unseen)
